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Old 23 Apr 2010, 17:53 (Ref:2678608)   #376
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Silvertone, Petit & Shanghai are the LMIC rounds, but if you want to enter you also have to do at least 2 other le mans races but results don't count to LMIC (other than the 24).

Entry is now:
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ORECA I think are confirmed
Kolles - announced, but gotta be a question mark now
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Aston (will do PLM & surely Silverstone, also will have the +2 Le Mans races)
OAK Pescarolo

Got to imagine that GT will be a good line up too - otherwise why would ACO have changed their minds on LMP1 only?

That's it - Silverstone here I come.
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Old 23 Apr 2010, 20:26 (Ref:2678681)   #377
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I think the GT entry should be fairly competitive, and I hope it includes some of the top Porsche, Ferrari, Vette, and BMW teams from both sides of the pond.
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 08:41 (Ref:2678893)   #378
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Have we heard anything from any GT teams yet about participation in the LMIC? ACO included them in the championship but that's it, as far as I could tell. Would be interesting to see the Vette, Flying Lizards and Risi coming over. My only question, especially concerning the Porsches and Ferraris, is it always seemed like the Euro and NA Porsche/Ferrari teams only 'clashed', in terms of using Works Drivers, at Le Mans. With the LMIC, there would be more overlap and if, say, Flying Lizards and Felbermayr/IMSA race in Silverstone and PLM, Porsche will have to distribute their drivers. This normally only affects the 3rd driver, for the longer events, so we're talking about Long not appearing in a Felbermayr since he's got his regular Flying Lizards teams around, and concerns also guys like Lieb, Lietz, Pilet.

Same applies to Bruni, Melo, etc.
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 09:59 (Ref:2678918)   #379
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I think Felbermayr should have two cars,2or3 work drivers for #77(Lieb and Liez),at least 1 for IMSA(Pilet,probably with Long),Lizard will receive no more than 1(Bergmeister)mainly because they have Neiman...i wonder if Falken will race there,if not,Henzler might drive for Proton.
the entry list should be like LM24's for GT class and depending on the result of LM24
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 14:46 (Ref:2679001)   #380
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I think Felbermayr should have two cars,2or3 work drivers for #77(Lieb and Liez),at least 1 for IMSA(Pilet,probably with Long),Lizard will receive no more than 1(Bergmeister)mainly because they have Neiman...i wonder if Falken will race there,if not,Henzler might drive for Proton.
the entry list should be like LM24's for GT class and depending on the result of LM24
But at Petit, I can't see them splitting Pat and Jorg up, especially if they're in the thick of the championship.
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 18:38 (Ref:2679055)   #381
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Could we see a FL/Felbermayr joined entry for this?
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 21:30 (Ref:2679100)   #382
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arakis has a lot of promise if they can keep it on the circuit!
OR a AF/Risi
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 21:52 (Ref:2679103)   #383
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OR a AF/Risi
Doubt it but hopefully we see AF Corse field a couple of cars in the championship.
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Doubt it but hopefully we see AF Corse field a couple of cars in the championship.
but there wont be any Bruni/Melo car, since, risi will be doing pettit
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Old 24 Apr 2010, 23:46 (Ref:2679145)   #385
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I do wonder if any ALMS teams will commit to the LMIC in GT/GT2, with Drayson being the only full-time ALMS team in prototypes right now committing to it?
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We did see an IMSA/Felbermayr car at Le Mans last year. Whether FL needs also a combined effort to get to the LMIC, we shall see. And if they even participate.
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but there wont be any Bruni/Melo car, since, risi will be doing pettit
I'm hoping for Alesi and Fisi since they only made it as reserves at Le Mans! I doubt Risi will find funding to do the ILMC, although that would be great. (Mr. Krohn are you listening?)
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If Risi were not able to compete but AF Corse would, what would happen in terms of the ALMS drivers championship if Melo and Bruni show up driving an AF Corse car at Petit? Hypothetical thinking.
For Risi would lose out in terms of team championship but could the result for Melo and Bruni stand for the drivers champ?
I really don't see them moving cars at Petit, being Risi territory and all, but you never know.
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We did see an IMSA/Felbermayr car at Le Mans last year. Whether FL needs also a combined effort to get to the LMIC, we shall see. And if they even participate.
yes,but the lemans#70 last year was more a Felbermayr,the car and 3 gentleman drivers all from Felbermayr team,only race under IMSA banner with a little Matmut liveries.
the best entry list i can imagine (though it seems very impossible)
#75 Westbrook-Ragingger-Splunteren
#76 Pilet-Raymond-Holzer
#77 Lieb-Lietz-Henzler
#80 Bergmeister-Long-Law
#88 Sr Felbermayr-Jr Felbermayr-Ried
#98 Neiman-Machiels-Hommerson
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Endurance-Info.com are reporting (in their Spa coverage) another twist in the LMIC rules. Apparently, teams will be able to miss one of the three rounds, but still be included in the overall 'Team Classification', provided they participate in a minimum of 5 Le Mans labelled races acrooss the ALMS/LMS/AsLMS.
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Endurance-Info.com are reporting (in their Spa coverage) another twist in the LMIC rules. Apparently, teams will be able to miss one of the three rounds, but still be included in the overall 'Team Classification', provided they participate in a minimum of 5 Le Mans labelled races acrooss the ALMS/LMS/AsLMS.
is this a change due to lack of interest on the part of potential participants and to entice more of them to enter? this change seems it will make it a bit easier for some of the potential participants to enter.
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Endurance-Info.com are reporting (in their Spa coverage) another twist in the LMIC rules. Apparently, teams will be able to miss one of the three rounds, but still be included in the overall 'Team Classification', provided they participate in a minimum of 5 Le Mans labelled races acrooss the ALMS/LMS/AsLMS.
That's excellent news!
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is this a change due to lack of interest on the part of potential participants and to entice more of them to enter? this change seems it will make it a bit easier for some of the potential participants to enter.
I think it's an attempt to keep from sucking the life out of the base series.
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Old 7 May 2010, 17:00 (Ref:2686114)   #394
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If your going for the championship, you'll still need to enter each round.

Doesn't this just mean teams efforts will still be recognised even if they miss a round, which should encourage more smaller budget teams to enter.

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Doesn't this just mean teams efforts will still be recognised even if they miss a round, which should encourage more smaller budget teams to enter.
I agree with that, but I still disgree with the policy. The point of the tournament should be to make big teams race in the three continents for worldwide glory.
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That's excellent news!
I don't think it's good at all. Now very few of the would be entrants will come to Petit, or at least that's the way it seems to me...
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^That's how I see it too, Audi/Pug aside teams will just pick 1 fly away race (Drayson comes to Silverstone, ORECA go to Shanghai, OAK go to PLM)
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I agree with that, but I still disgree with the policy. The point of the tournament should be to make big teams race in the three continents for worldwide glory.
This season is only a toe in the water exercise, next year there will be at least two US rounds, and possibly more in Europe and Asia.
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I don't think it's good at all. Now very few of the would be entrants will come to Petit, or at least that's the way it seems to me...
IMO the ILMC shouldn't just be viewed as a means to boost Sebring and PLM's entries.

I'd like to see teams such as Highroft, Dyson, P&M, RISI, Rahal etc. taking in a few ILMC rounds outside of North America.

This would obviously only be possible if round clashes were avoided, and perhaps if the ALMS was restructured with fewer rounds.
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Except that the North American teams by-and-large have North American sponsors who don't have a presence in Europe or Asia, and so don't give a crap about going over there. It doesn't gain them anything to go overseas, so why would they fund such an expedition?

Restructuring the ALMS as you say would only hurt the series. They NEED the maximum number of rounds they can get to achieve the maximum amount of exposure in the US throughout the entire racing season.

Let's face it, Europe has no single series that is equivalent to NASCAR. Australian V8 Supercars is probably the closest to it anywhere else in the world, but that's still only 12-15 weekends a year, as opposed to 36 for Sprint Cup.

ALMS obviously is not on that level, but needs as many rounds as possible (which ideally would be 12-16 a year); don't expect your series to get TV coverage over here unless you have eight or more rounds a season. It's just that simple.
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