BTCC 2024 News & Rumours

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by InYourMirrors45

Dynamics apparently will be back but not in a way most people think.

Something with less wheels?

[Steel Wheels]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Something with less wheels?

Two less and running something beginning with D ??

[Ant25]

Originally Posted by Steel Wheels

Two less and running something beginning with D ??

So much going round about dynamics

[Ant25]

Will we see more testing for next season? Didn’t see much of it last season.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Ant25

Will we see more testing for next season? Didn’t see much of it last season.

I would say that the teams do not publicise their out of season testing, but as Sutton in particular stated, Motorbase/NAPA did conduct considerable off-season testing which obviously delivered considerable benefits.

[cameronpoe]

[QUOTE=Matt_123;4180250]Yh but i meant someone who brings in A LOT of money
Like A LOT A LOT

Some drivers control their sponsor packages , some have contracts that don’t require a financial input. So no different to most racing series and actually for aspiring drivers without lots of family money the BTCC is comfortably the best series for selling sponsorship , not fashionable I know but when you talk to young drivers in the paddock as I do every BTCC weekend most realise that asking a sponsor for money for Europe is a hard sell as I know very well. There have been some pretty big crowds at BTCC events this year , next year Toca will I am sure tweak a few things to improve a couple of areas , the championship is moving to less teams but bigger teams ( so has NASCAR) it will improve again next year .. catch up in 2024!!

[coffinpilot]

Brother-in-law delivers to Croft in a 'red van' - spotted a certain Mr Huff and a Toyota BTCC car there today.
Gates were closed with security. Normally you can just wander in for track days or test days, but that wasn't on the cards.

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by coffinpilot

Brother-in-law delivers to Croft in a 'red van' - spotted a certain Mr Huff and a Toyota BTCC car there today.
Gates were closed with security. Normally you can just wander in for track days or test days, but that wasn't on the cards.

Interesting, would be a good boost to the Toyota program if it comes to fruition.

[Ant25]

Originally Posted by coffinpilot

Brother-in-law delivers to Croft in a 'red van' - spotted a certain Mr Huff and a Toyota BTCC car there today.
Gates were closed with security. Normally you can just wander in for track days or test days, but that wasn't on the cards.

How did he know if gates are closed? ???

[coffinpilot]

Originally Posted by Ant25

How did he know if gates are closed? ???

Gates were closed, but opened for the delivery, he drove to the office, dropped mail off, drove back to the gates, which were closed, then opened for him to leave, then closed again when he went.

Nobody stops a postie!

Same also happened for one day of the pre-season Excelr8 test, because they were filming with a drone, the circuit isn't allowed to have drones in operation on racec days, or when the public are in.

[coffinpilot]

And a follow up, when I messaged the in-law back, he pointed out what he meant was Huff was there looking like he'd had a run in the car, but the car was on track with somebody else driving.

[Ant25]

Team dynamics have posted a video on TikTok saying “this is the call you’ve been waiting for” I wonder what that call is? ??

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by Ant25

Team dynamics have posted a video on TikTok saying “this is the call you’ve been waiting for” I wonder what that call is? ??

On that subject, for what little it’s worth, Gordon Shedden was around the garages at BritishGT today. Perhaps an inclination to go GT racing should a chance arise although of course he didn’t let anything on.

Tom Ingram, meanwhile, was 2nd overall in GT4 qualifying. Unfortunately his teammate wasn’t quite as brisk so finished a few laps down.

Overall champions were Dan Harper and Darren Leung, both names from the TOCA package in recent years.

[annasto]

Sheddon was in one of the British GT garages and was interviewed. He talked about really wanting to do Le Mans one day and possibly trying GT racing. Also said he'd only be interested in a package where he could fight for wins and championships

[Ant25]

Originally Posted by annasto

Sheddon was in one of the British GT garages and was interviewed. He talked about really wanting to do Le Mans one day and possibly trying GT racing. Also said he'd only be interested in a package where he could fight for wins and championships

Might be that then you never know! And do you think dynamics are done with Btcc now?

[BtccLee]

https://www.btcc.net/2023/10/23/btcc...ying-for-2024/

It's an intriguing change that should bring some excitement to Saturdays, interesting to see what further regulation changes are made ahead of the season.

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by BtccLee

https://www.btcc.net/2023/10/23/btcc...ying-for-2024/

It's an intriguing change that should bring some excitement to Saturdays, interesting to see what further regulation changes are made ahead of the season.

Interesting, will have to see it in practice before making much judgement. So four 10 minute sessions, plus short breaks in between and any stoppages, are going to make qualifying at least an hour then.

Six cars on the longer tracks like Snetterton isn't a fantastic spectacle (nor will 12 be really; ten was bad enough with the shootout) but should help the shorter tracks where lap times come in faster and traffic is more of an issue.

If this year is anything to go by too, it seems quite likely each top 6 could be pretty much the same drivers every time?

Perhaps should have made the first two sessions 15 mins and the top 12 the final one, or Q3 a one lap shootout? But we'll see!

[Robin Marriott]

Sounds like a great format to me, I’ve enjoyed the top 10 Q2 this year and this sounds even better.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Perhaps should have made the first two sessions 15 mins and the top 12 the final one, or Q3 a one lap shootout? But we'll see!

One lap shootout doesn't work that well when you have a mix of FWD and RWD cars that take different times to get heat into their tyres.

Do an out-lap, swap tyres front to rear, do another out-lap, lap deleted for track limits - that 10 mins is going to go very quickly.

I don't think it will make a huge difference to the grid order, the quick guys will still be quick, but could be interesting.

[Evantra]

Originally Posted by redshoes

One lap shootout doesn't work that well when you have a mix of FWD and RWD cars that take different times to get heat into their tyres.

Yeah, good point. Still, four identical sessions, each with fewer cars to watch - seems enthusiasm could wane by the end.

[Robin Marriott]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Yeah, good point. Still, four identical sessions, each with fewer cars to watch - seems enthusiasm could wane by the end.

But F1 does 20 cars for 18 mins, 15 for 15 and 10 for 12 and people absolutely love Q3.

[touring fan01]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Yeah, good point. Still, four identical sessions, each with fewer cars to watch - seems enthusiasm could wane by the end.

if youve ever watched indycar qualifying then youd know that the opposite happens

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Interesting, will have to see it in practice before making much judgement. So four 10 minute sessions, plus short breaks in between and any stoppages, are going to make qualifying at least an hour then.

Six cars on the longer tracks like Snetterton isn't a fantastic spectacle (nor will 12 be really; ten was bad enough with the shootout) but should help the shorter tracks where lap times come in faster and traffic is more of an issue.

If this year is anything to go by too, it seems quite likely each top 6 could be pretty much the same drivers every time?

Perhaps should have made the first two sessions 15 mins and the top 12 the final one, or Q3 a one lap shootout? But we'll see!

Some people are just never happy......

[Ant25]

Originally Posted by Evantra

Interesting, will have to see it in practice before making much judgement. So four 10 minute sessions, plus short breaks in between and any stoppages, are going to make qualifying at least an hour then.

Six cars on the longer tracks like Snetterton isn't a fantastic spectacle (nor will 12 be really; ten was bad enough with the shootout) but should help the shorter tracks where lap times come in faster and traffic is more of an issue.

If this year is anything to go by too, it seems quite likely each top 6 could be pretty much the same drivers every time?

Perhaps should have made the first two sessions 15 mins and the top 12 the final one, or Q3 a one lap shootout? But we'll see!

I think it’s a good idea it’s gonna mix things up

[Matt K]

Great idea, remember a lot of discussions about BTCC becoming quite stale and now there's some new exciting addition to the race weekend. Sure, not a game changer or any huge difference but I guess this will be exciting to follow and watch.
Not following IndyCar too closely so can't say how it works there but seems it works very well there so can't see any reason not to be great here.