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Old 3 May 2023, 19:09 (Ref:4154381)   #401
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Yea, years ago the F1 Bridgestone inter was legendary in that it could run in almost fully dry conditions and actually tolerate it for a few laps.
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Old 3 May 2023, 20:07 (Ref:4154386)   #402
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That's the best, but least likely, option. Those slick intermediates were arguably the most advanced technology in the LMP1-H era.
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Old 3 May 2023, 21:52 (Ref:4154398)   #403
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Or maybe not have an exclusive tire manufacturer and see how that works out from a tyre performance standpoint :P
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Old 4 May 2023, 07:57 (Ref:4154426)   #404
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This is common sense, something the rulemakers are not very used to these days. So even less likely to happen unfortunately.
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Old 4 May 2023, 08:43 (Ref:4154433)   #405
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Having a single tyre supplier removes another BoP variable. It's not going to change any time soon.
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Old 4 May 2023, 11:11 (Ref:4154447)   #406
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And it reduces costs. That coupled with what you say about performance means the common sense solution is one tyre supplier. It is part and parcel of why we have so many competitors.
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Old 4 May 2023, 12:22 (Ref:4154456)   #407
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And it reduces costs. That coupled with what you say about performance means the common sense solution is one tyre supplier. It is part and parcel of why we have so many competitors.
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Old 4 May 2023, 12:32 (Ref:4154459)   #408
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WEC already has class exclusive tire makers with Michelin (LMH/LMDH) and Goodyear (LMP2 and GT3 next year). So that's already resolved.
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Old 11 May 2023, 16:51 (Ref:4155579)   #410
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Tyre warmers are back! Le Mans only. All classes.

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Old 11 May 2023, 17:10 (Ref:4155580)   #411
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It was inevitable, they'll stay post Le Mans btw.
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Old 11 May 2023, 17:11 (Ref:4155581)   #412
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Tyre warmers are back! Le Mans only. All classes.

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So this will mean we can expect a pre-Le Mans BOP change too, because the ACO said that won't happen just like the tyre warmers....
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It was inevitable, they'll stay post Le Mans btw.
I hope not. I hope they go back to the IMSA way.

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So this will mean we can expect a pre-Le Mans BOP change too, because the ACO said that won't happen just like the tyre warmers....
a certainty

But, will the rule about not spinning you wheels when you leave the pit come back?
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Old 11 May 2023, 18:13 (Ref:4155597)   #414
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I wonder how this will work for the non-WEC teams. Do they just have to dig up the old mothballed ones, or rent some tire warming tents from Michelin or someone else for Le Mans?

Also, how exactly is this fuel thing going to work? Were the tire heating tents previously not electrically powered?
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Old 11 May 2023, 18:26 (Ref:4155601)   #415
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Maybe Michelin weren't being honest after all. It's easy to blame the tools when the tools are actually at fault.

The ACO won't want to keep this up for any longer than necessary, so Michelin effectively have two months to sort it out.
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I guess it is just a conservative approach to the big one.
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Old 11 May 2023, 23:10 (Ref:4155624)   #417
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Pretty much, we all knew that most of this was to be a shakeout year, for cars, teams, and even rules. By next year, we will have a better handle on things and can concentrate on the racing.
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I think the case has been made by the crashes that for all the energy you've saved not warming tires, the teams probably spend more energy just to replenish their spare parts. We'll see how it plays out post-LM.
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Tyre warmer ban lifted for LM. What does everyone think of this decision?

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Given the amount of end swapping going on with cold tyres, I think it's a good choice. It would totally change the charateristics of LM if the same issues were occurring there, at night, in the rain.
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Still don't understand this fixation on tire warmers in the EU. In IMSA, we have never had tire warmers and we race in the rain and at night in cold weather. Seems to me a bit of a lame excuse to poor driving practices.
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While teams/drivers aren't up to speed on the tyre warm-up, essentially it just harms your product.

Ferraris losing a lap at Spa crawling around. Cars crashing in a straight line at walking pace. 'World leading' drivers looking amateur. Extra safety cars. That's a bad product.

With so many eyes on Le Mans it's just not worth it.
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Still don't understand this fixation on tire warmers in the EU. In IMSA, we have never had tire warmers and we race in the rain and at night in cold weather. Seems to me a bit of a lame excuse to poor driving practices.
There's an element of drivers being weaned off tyre warmers, but the fact that some of the drivers speaking out have IMSA experience suggests there is more to it than just blaming the drivers.

If the same drivers can do it in IMSA but not WEC, we need to look at what is different in both series regarding tyres, both in terms of construction and regulations regarding them.
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There's an element of drivers being weaned off tyre warmers, but the fact that some of the drivers speaking out have IMSA experience suggests there is more to it than just blaming the drivers.

If the same drivers can do it in IMSA but not WEC, we need to look at what is different in both series regarding tyres, both in terms of construction and regulations regarding them.
Goodyear v/s Michelin? All IMSA prototype cars run the same Michelin tires. If the tires are the problem in ACO then they need to get with the program and fix the problem. Tire warmers are just a bandage fix for a more systemic problem.

Drivers will complain about things they allowed to complain about if it helps their performance.
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