Acura/HPD's future plans - Page 17

anthonyvop · 1 Sep 2008, 21:31 (Ref:2279749)

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Originally Posted by Zurbert82

This is their third year in the ALMS, and their second year with Acura. Last year they ran a blue/silver car with Takata and Forbes sponsorship.

Sorry,
I watched the IRL race and I guess I had a brain cramp.

dxk1 · 1 Sep 2008, 21:51 (Ref:2279762)

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Originally Posted by extramundane

I believe de Ferran has mostly outclassed AGR as well, especially when you consider that, 6 months ago, de Ferran Motorsports didn't exist. AGR's driver choices, until very recently, ranged from curious (Marco) to mindboggling (Fittipaldi), and it seems clear that the P2 program has very much been on their back burner this year. De Ferran, on the other hand, has been consistently fast, and has been a victim more of bad luck than bad decisions.

I don't completely disagree, but for all of AGR's problems, points wise, they have been competitive. Since de Ferren entered ALMS, de Ferren 40 points and AGR 55! Even is you discard AGR's last win, de Ferren would be only 5 points ahead. While AGR certainly could have done better, they have done fairly well and consistently scored points.

DK

mattcat · 2 Sep 2008, 19:42 (Ref:2280317)

Any word on whether or not the ARX-02a will be a coupe?

WMUCarGuy · 2 Sep 2008, 19:48 (Ref:2280324)

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Originally Posted by mattcat

Any word on whether or not the ARX-02a will be a coupe?

No.

deggis · 5 Sep 2008, 07:56 (Ref:2282078)

"Autosport print edn. reporting Acura LMP1 to shakedown November & testing in US in December"

from mariantic.co.uk/lmp

Aslak Vind · 5 Sep 2008, 08:58 (Ref:2282116)

Super update, thank you

The Badger · 5 Sep 2008, 09:35 (Ref:2282135)

By shakedown , I presume it will take place in GB , as that is where Wirth is based ?

HORNDAWG · 5 Sep 2008, 16:10 (Ref:2282384)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

By shakedown , I presume it will take place in GB , as that is where Wirth is based ?

Well, not necessarily. The first glimpse of the ARX-01a was on a dark rainy night from Florida, iirc, it was from Homestead.

L.P.

JAG · 5 Sep 2008, 17:30 (Ref:2282417)

Has to be a Coupe, surely.

Peugeot are so far ahead of the experienced Audi squad, you have to conclude the Coupe route is the way to go.

CTD · 5 Sep 2008, 18:47 (Ref:2282463)

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Originally Posted by JAG

Has to be a Coupe, surely.

Peugeot are so far ahead of the experienced Audi squad, you have to conclude the Coupe route is the way to go.

Hmm or the R10 is just old!?.
somewhere i just thing there and hope there is room for the Spyders!

Aslak Vind · 5 Sep 2008, 19:03 (Ref:2282468)

I would not hold my breath for an open R15...

HORNDAWG · 5 Sep 2008, 20:26 (Ref:2282520)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Well, not necessarily. The first glimpse of the ARX-01a was on a dark rainy night from Florida, iirc, it was from Homestead.

L.P.

Ya, it was Homestead. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...-new_85731.htm

L.P.

Aslak Vind · 5 Sep 2008, 20:30 (Ref:2282522)

Fantastic weather, and ofcourse in the dark of night!

HORNDAWG · 6 Sep 2008, 23:41 (Ref:2283102)

Maybe we will see an Acura ARX-01b(c) or 2 in the LMS next year?

link

L.P.

WMUCarGuy · 7 Sep 2008, 01:26 (Ref:2283122)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Maybe we will see an Acura ARX-01b(c) or 2 in the LMS next year?

link

L.P.

I'd rather see whole packages sold than engines.

rich07 · 7 Sep 2008, 01:33 (Ref:2283124)

Yeah me too but would they be badged Acura? Because Acura isn't well known in Europe compared to the US.

broadrun96 · 7 Sep 2008, 04:46 (Ref:2283154)

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Originally Posted by Aslak Vind

I would not hold my breath for an open R15...

I would, since wasn't Audi one of the driving forces behind the dropping of the exclusively coupe "EVO" rules? Just may be me, but sounded like everyone at Audi was big on spyders; but you do seem to have the inside track on alot of Audi info.

HORNDAWG · 7 Sep 2008, 05:15 (Ref:2283157)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Yeah me too but would they be badged Acura? Because Acura isn't well known in Europe compared to the US.

Acura is going to be launched on the Continent in the near future, and it is an Acura project, not Honda. I would think it would continue as an Acura and viewed as a preparatory campaign for the eventual launch of Acura in Europe.

L.P.

**FIRE** · 7 Sep 2008, 10:09 (Ref:2283242)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Yeah me too but would they be badged Acura? Because Acura isn't well known in Europe compared to the US.

Are Judd and AER well known in Europe? No they aren't. So I don't see the problem. Besides that Acura will be launced in Europe in near future.

JAG · 7 Sep 2008, 12:30 (Ref:2283297)

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Originally Posted by CTD

Hmm or the R10 is just old!?.
somewhere i just thing there and hope there is room for the Spyders!

I'm not so sure, reading about the DOME in Racecar Engineering, they say you can place the driver much lower, due to a lower front rollover structure, the rear rollover structure is also lower. In addition you can control the air better with a coupe body.

It's not totally clear in the article, but DOME seemed to believe an optomised Coupe could make up for the open R10's '140bhp' power advantage.

SebringMG · 7 Sep 2008, 15:40 (Ref:2283432)

Reading between the lines Dome have just been more imaginative with the rules than anyone else tbh......

19dodge · 7 Sep 2008, 15:41 (Ref:2283433)

And this would be strictly a customer program. Acura would provide no factory support to teams. The cars would be sold to the teams. Erik didn't mention if the aim for this is 2009, but it could very well be. We will have to wait and see..

knighty · 7 Sep 2008, 19:12 (Ref:2283872)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

Are Judd and AER well known in Europe? No they aren't. So I don't see the problem. Besides that Acura will be launced in Europe in near future.

you what?....Judd and AER are extreemly well known in Europe as top line engine outfits.....quite what makes you think otherwise is beyond me.

anyway, that test footage sounds interesting, apart from not being able to tell if its an open or closed chassis, you could certainly tell something about the engine........now that sounds like the bark of a flat-plane crankshaft V8.....so my guess is its something like a 4.0 to 5.0 V8, more than likley supplied by Ilmor...........so my educated guess is its probably an enlarged version of the current LMP2 unit, which started off life as a 3.5L IRL engine, as previously admitted by acura.......

in which case, surely Acura-Wirth know they will immediatley be at quite some power & torque defecit to Audi, which makes me think Acure will soon announce their new LMP1 also features KERS technology which will help bridge the engine performance gap to Audi.

Honda have just launched their first Hybrid and I dare say they are itching to let one loose in the US race scene.

**FIRE** · 7 Sep 2008, 19:40 (Ref:2283908)

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Originally Posted by knighty

you what?....Judd and AER are extreemly well known in Europe as top line engine outfits.....quite what makes you think otherwise is beyond me.

For the general European public Acura, Judd and AER aren't wel known.

Dead-Eye · 7 Sep 2008, 22:18 (Ref:2284119)

Apples and oranges. Judd and AER's purpose is selling race engines. Acura's purpose is selling road cars and they race for marketing reasons.

Of course, that doesn't mean they wouldn't sell their race cars and engines if they could make money from it

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