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However, if Formula One is considering the re-introduction of normally-aspirated engines, why not going to the old V10's? I never liked the sound of the pre-2014 V8's. |
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I don't expect them to neuter some of the combustion efficiencies (and related technology) that has been created since circa 2014, that technology (efficient use of fuel) will continue going forward. Why throw away power? What does my crystal ball say will happen in 2030? * V8 (compact) * Normally Aspirated (no turbo to muffle exhaust) * High Revving (higher than current, but maybe not setting new records) * Carry over of highly efficient combustion concepts from today * Fully sustainable fuels * Hybrid may remain, but balance of power will be on ICE side. * Substantial spec dimensions of large portions of the ICE (like today) * Generally these will be low tech engines So think something like a blend between 2008-2013 engines with combustion efficiency of today plus sustainable fuel source. Richard |
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What I do think is different these days is that clearly NOT creating the power unit spec and chassis spec at the same time has resulted in a level of "build a car to suit the engine" and somewhat realizing that they may have painted themselves into a corner. So I think we go into the 2026 power unit (and chassis spec) with public realizations that how they have done this has been painful. I think the chances for unintended consequences popping up on 2026 is real. I suspect that when they approach 2030, they will likely follow a different process and more tightly integrate the power unit and chassis spec process to ensure they are more aligned. I think there is parallels between how F1 is handling 2026 specs and how a non-manufacture team ends up having to deal with non-optimal solutions with respect to their power unit integration. For example Mercedes will use their own requirements to drive packaging for the power unit. McLaren may have little or not input on how Mercedes does that. So their integration might be compromised somewhere, somehow. F1 is treat itself like a customer for it's own engine. Richard |
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I think people may be reading too much into the Domenicali statement.What if he's signalling that it might be a 1200cc straight 4 with a much greater electrical element,all running on renewable fuel?Alternatively,might it be a move to pushrod V8's to interest the home audience of Liberty Media?
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If they have to have Hybrid why don’t they just go back to the basic KERS system they had in about 2009 and revert to V8s?
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The FIA, using a Ferrari at Fiorino, tested a more sophisticated wheel covering this week, and due to the poor results, have shelved the idea. This according to the Autosport magazine out today.
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Good that some common sense has come into play - was always a long shot and brought additional complications in races (pit stops, on-track clashes, debris). |
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Whatever happened to the reduced spray tarmac? This was tested years ago, I recall reading about it in Autosport maybe 20 years back?
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It's porous. The pores fill with rubber, oil, dust, dirt etc. Then it isn't porous any more...
The surface is also quite weak iirc and would tear up under the forces exerted by F1 cars. |
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I could imagine given some of those surfaces have been destroyed in testing here in Atlanta with just regular car use. And the city was promised 20 year replacement cycles with every 5 year scrubbing to open the pores
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What many of us suspected seems to be gradually clarifying. https://www.pitpass.com/77861/F1-sho...el-says-Maffei .I very much hope that the FIA,the EU and even Congress will point out that such a restraint of trade is totally counter to the notion
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But his example of the NFL is a very very closed shop, to buy in and build a new team is VERY costly and restricted. I would argue it is more closed than F1 is currently and ruled with more Bernie style restriction just quietly instead of in the media. Any discussion outside of what the NFL wants/demands is shunned and fined
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"FIA unveils Formula 1 regulations for 2026 and beyond featuring more agile cars and active aerodynamics"
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More agile cars, which are 30kg lighter and thus better able to battle on track
A redesigned power unit featuring increased battery power and an even split between internal combustion engine and electric power plus the use of 100% sustainable fuels Active aerodynamics in the form of moveable front and rear wings to allow for closer racing Increased overtaking opportunities through the introduction of a new system that gives drivers a short burst of additional battery power when within one second of the car in front |
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I think comparisons to something like the NFL is fine. There will always be differences (US Football is not F1 and F1 is not US Football), but for me what stands out at a key difference is how F1 current is actively trying to exclude new entries. While we as fans can't all agree on this topic, I suspect the majority of fans would support an increase beyond 10 teams. So regardless of which model they follow the general attitude in F1 toward league growth is IMHO not working or healthy. Richard |
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EXPLAINED: FIA reveals NEW details about 2026 F1 Regulations
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