2016 VASC Silly Season

[Mixer]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

Wonder how the Kosteckis managed to gazump Eggleston Motorsport?

Coupla hundred grand would do it

[GTRMagic]

#34 GRM Seat Available?

Will Mr Rogers pay the money required to get a proven 'name' into that seat, or is there a young bloke waiting in the wings?

[Mixer]

More interestingly, AA's "scoop" this week is that DJRTP will be 2 cars next year with Ambrose nowhere to be seen.

[sizzle]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

#34 GRM Seat Available?

Will Mr Rogers pay the money required to get a proven 'name' into that seat, or is there a young bloke waiting in the wings?

A lot of pretty speedy bums have sat in the #34 over the years and it has not been near the front.
It was amazing how the fast frog matched the young fella when in the same car but was nowhere the year before in his own.

[Umai Naa]

The calibre of the engineering group on #34 is not a patch on what #33 enjoys.

[F J Nedos]

I still recall the funny interview with Mr Rogers and Ms Crehan re a certain driver in that car...

[Razor]

Originally Posted by GTRMagic

888 Sells 2 COTF Chassis To Dunlop Series

...with full 888 technical support...

With COTF next year in the DVS, what happens to the Car of The Past? (Ie: FG and VE II)

[ForumNick]

Khumo Series ?

[Bugger All]

Originally Posted by ForumNick

Khumo Series ?

Nah Konica series reborn...

[Umai Naa]

Yeah, FG and VE will be in the Kumho series within a couple of years.

[peckstar]

Talk that pit lane speed limits will be raised at certain tracks next year to give options for strategy

[Razor]

Isn't that a CAMS and OHS thing rather than a V8 Supercar thing? The last thing is people getting hurt by being hit by cars going at 80-100kph.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by Razor

Isn't that a CAMS and OHS thing rather than a V8 Supercar thing? The last thing is people getting hurt by being hit by cars going at 80-100kph.

As i mentioned, certain tracks only, ones that have a suitable pit lane

[old fart]

Originally Posted by peckstar

As i mentioned, certain tracks only, ones that have a suitable pit lane

The only suitable pit lane would be one with no pit crew, officials, photographers, tv reporters/film crew etc. It does not matter how wide, long or undulating the slow/ fast lane setup is the risk increases with the speed.

We have seen the problems being experienced currently in all forms of racing and I am sure that the insurers will have a good look at the increased risk. If premiums are increased I guess the cost will have to be passed onto others.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by old fart

The only suitable pit lane would be one with no pit crew, officials, photographers, tv reporters/film crew etc. It does not matter how wide, long or undulating the slow/ fast lane setup is the risk increases with the speed.

We have seen the problems being experienced currently in all forms of racing and I am sure that the insurers will have a good look at the increased risk. If premiums are increased I guess the cost will have to be passed onto others.

yet we allow it in F1

[chavez]

Originally Posted by peckstar

yet we allow it in F1

True, but European's generally have a different attitude to safety than us Aussies.

Personal responsibility plays a far greater role than it does here.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by chavez

True, but European's generally have a different attitude to safety than us Aussies.

Personal responsibility plays a far greater role than it does here.

we allow it in f1 in Australia.

Its only in the discusion phase and Im sure the nanny state dictators will close this down

[chavez]

Originally Posted by peckstar

we allow it in f1 in Australia.

Its only in the discusion phase and Im sure the nanny state dictators will close this down

I am not sure if there is any Australian input either from CAMS or elsewhere into the pit lane speed at Albert Park.

If there was the speed would undoubtably be lower.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by Razor

Isn't that a CAMS and OHS thing rather than a V8 Supercar thing? The last thing is people getting hurt by being hit by cars going at 80-100kph.

The current pit lane speed limit was set by V8SC when CAMS was running a higher pit lane speed for everything else. For a while there, the pit lane speed limit was 40kmh for V8SC and 60 for all the supports - a ludicrous situation but that is what happened with the limit changing back and forth through V8 meetings and going back to 60 at non-V8 meetings. CAMS then adopted the lower limit themselves.

The V8 limit was set after quite a bit of testing and evaluation by the V8 operations and technical guys, allowing for the higher ratio and full fuel loads up the slope of the pit lane at Bathurst for example and cars not stalling. There was a lot to it and it was properly researched and implemented.

I agree with those on here suggesting that it shouldn't change back - I can tell you from personal experience working in many pit lanes that the lower speed limit IS a benefit and should be continued but its a mistake to think that CAMS mandated the speed limit - the V8s write their own rules and were in front of CAMS in mandating the lower limit.

[bortall]

Originally Posted by peckstar

Talk that pit lane speed limits will be raised at certain tracks next year to give options for strategy

How would it give options for strategy - isn't everyone doing the same speed in pit lane regardless of what that speed may be???

[mikuni]

Originally Posted by bortall

How would it give options for strategy - isn't everyone doing the same speed in pit lane regardless of what that speed may be???

With a higher speed a pit stop would have a shorter total duration, meaning an extra stop in a race would be more viable.

But a speed increase is a safety compromise and doing it purely as a bandaid fix to try and improve the show doesn't really fly with me. I like the current level of pit lane safety in Supercars and it is good not seeing people hurt. I watched NASCAR the other day and I was embarrassed for Motorsport seeing the guys running out in front of the car as it pulled into the pit box. I even saw a few of them get hit by the car. It was unbelievable just how stupid it looked. Another 20km/h and it may have gone from stupid to tragic.

[ford71]

I always chuckle at NASCAR.
Officials looking over the shoulder to make sure all 5 wheelnuts are done up on each wheel.
And then when the car leaves the box in a cloud of tyre smoke and spinning wheels, all the old wheel nuts are run over and fired out the back of the car at bullet speed in random directions.

[Reload]

Originally Posted by ford71

I always chuckle at NASCAR.
Officials looking over the shoulder to make sure all 5 wheelnuts are done up on each wheel.
And then when the car leaves the box in a cloud of tyre smoke and spinning wheels, all the old wheel nuts are run over and fired out the back of the car at bullet speed in random directions.

That rule has been changed recently, but I get your drift.

[chavez]

Originally Posted by ford71

I always chuckle at NASCAR.
Officials looking over the shoulder to make sure all 5 wheelnuts are done up on each wheel.
And then when the car leaves the box in a cloud of tyre smoke and spinning wheels, all the old wheel nuts are run over and fired out the back of the car at bullet speed in random directions.

But at least NASCAR does have at least one official per pit bay.

V8 Supercars could learn from this. Tim, Bargs and co need to realise that breaches of the rules take place away from the TV cameras.

[ford71]

Originally Posted by Reload

That rule has been changed recently, but I get your drift.

Ah OK was not aware of a rule change.
So the lugnuts can no longer be discarded like I described?
If so, way overdue.