Team Aston Martin Racing in 2023. One of the cars still has Alonso. - Page 18

**Adam43** · 22 Sep 2021, 19:02 (Ref:4075073)

Yes, being an anorak is required sometimes for an F1 fan.

The only problem is when the anoraks are just trying to be right on the internet and we lose the sense of what is actually going on.

broadrun96 · 22 Sep 2021, 19:38 (Ref:4075075)

And

I'll show myself out to Parc Ferme again

peebee2 · 22 Sep 2021, 20:32 (Ref:4075079)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

And

I'll show myself out to Parc Ferme again

Lol, those are both very, very good.

**Adam43** · 22 Sep 2021, 20:45 (Ref:4075081)

I’m sure we can all see a little of ourselves there.

broadrun96 · 23 Sep 2021, 00:02 (Ref:4075088)

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I’m sure we can all see a little of ourselves there.

Most assuredly, hence the complete lack of alias labels. Choose who you are for yourself, your decision may vary by day

Skam85 · 23 Sep 2021, 00:46 (Ref:4075090)

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

23 Sep 2014:

'It is no secret that the Enstone-based team -- owned by Genii’s Gerard Lopez -- is not in the best financial state. Additionally, the performance of the Lotus E22 has been quite disappointing so far this year.

German magazine Sport Bild wrote Tuesday that Flavio Briatore (who still manages the career of Fernando Alonso) got in touch with teams Red Bull Racing and Mercedes AMG about a possible new home for Alonso.

The magazine added that Briatore is trying to convince Canadian billionaire, Lawrence Stroll, to invest in Lotus.

Briatore would then take Alonso to Lotus in order to revamp the image of the team. Keep in mind that Lotus will have Mercedes-Benz power units starting in 2015.'

That would have been equally as poor a career choice as McLaren Honda for Alonso

**Adam43** · 20 Oct 2021, 11:38 (Ref:4079229)

The talk of heavy green is back! It’s currently worrying the team management.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/we...hoice/6692198/

crmalcolm · 20 Oct 2021, 11:54 (Ref:4079233)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

The talk of heavy green is back! It’s currently worrying the team management.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/we...hoice/6692198/

Maybe they should start looking for a different sponsor with a 'lighter' colour?

Yellow is one of the lightest colours, so perhaps they should revert to their orange colours of Spyker? Or maybe get Renault in as a sponsor so that they can paint the cars yellow?

**Adam43** · 20 Oct 2021, 12:06 (Ref:4079236)

Best get Stroll on to that!

Tourer · 20 Oct 2021, 23:01 (Ref:4079297)

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Originally Posted by Adam43

The talk of heavy green is back! It’s currently worrying the team management.

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/we...hoice/6692198/

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Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Maybe they should start looking for a different sponsor with a 'lighter' colour?

Yellow is one of the lightest colours, so perhaps they should revert to their orange colours of Spyker? Or maybe get Renault in as a sponsor so that they can paint the cars yellow?

Perhaps the "go" is to paint the Aston's silver? I mean, 007's Astons have usually been silver, so fits the brand.

No other F1 teams reportedly using silver in 2022 and it'll prevent a situation where the Astons look similar to the Mercedes - oh, wait a minute.....

S griffin · 21 Oct 2021, 10:30 (Ref:4079327)

I think there was a superstition in America that green cars caused bad luck and might have actually banned them from competing for a time. Good job the likes of Tony Vandervill and Colin Chapman didn’t listen to this!

broadrun96 · 24 Oct 2021, 18:55 (Ref:4079769)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

I think there was a superstition in America that green cars caused bad luck and might have actually banned them from competing for a time. Good job the likes of Tony Vandervill and Colin Chapman didn’t listen to this!

Never heard that before and seen plenty of green. US colors were often blue stripes over white or the reverse for many people but green wasn't uncommon at all

Mike Harte · 24 Oct 2021, 19:55 (Ref:4079786)

On the plans by Aston to build a new campus, etc. at Silverstone, I noticed an advert in the papers for a bond that they are issuing to raise money for the project. The team's backers obviously want outsiders to pay for it.

Tourer · 24 Oct 2021, 23:45 (Ref:4079837)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Never heard that before and seen plenty of green. US colors were often blue stripes over white or the reverse for many people but green wasn't uncommon at all

It definitely was a thing back in the day - migrated to Oz too. Didn't stop people from having green race cars, particular if they weren't superstitious.

broadrun96 · 25 Oct 2021, 01:44 (Ref:4079839)

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Originally Posted by Tourer

It definitely was a thing back in the day - migrated to Oz too. Didn't stop people from having green race cars, particular if they weren't superstitious.

The only 3 major racers I could find were stupid with their decision, 2 won majority of the races after using a green car. Hadn't every heard it before and definitely was not a thing in NJ short track, red or green was common

Course most people I knew loved British cars and the various greens were popular, and silver.

But back Aston, even their pictures it wasn't a great green. Hopefully it looked better in person, but then it's a busy livery so the green has competition

chavez · 25 Oct 2021, 05:26 (Ref:4079853)

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Originally Posted by broadrun96

Never heard that before and seen plenty of green. US colors were often blue stripes over white or the reverse for many people but green wasn't uncommon at all

It is an old Indy superstition that spread to NASCAR.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...green-race-car

More here.

https://oilpressure.com/2010/01/11/t...d-color-green/

S griffin · 25 Oct 2021, 13:21 (Ref:4079925)

Yeah, but I think everyone has thankfully got over it now. Still, a nice story

**GTRMagic** · 26 Oct 2021, 21:53 (Ref:4080217)

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Originally Posted by Mike Harte

On the plans by Aston to build a new campus, etc. at Silverstone, I noticed an advert in the papers for a bond that they are issuing to raise money for the project. The team's backers obviously want outsiders to pay for it.

A bond is an old fashioned (everything old is new again) way of borrowing money from the markets without pledging specific assets against them.

Unless the bond is government backed (doubtful) it is not likely to be a capital guaranteed investment. The coupon rate would also likely to need to be quite attractive for the level of risk.. however in the era of almost 0% bank interest rates, as little as 1% seems to be a win these days

The big challenge is how to liquify a bond... if it is traded somewhere... or sits in one of those dreaded dark pools where cents on the face value dollar rock.

Bonds often have a limited life span as well, with a proper maturity date, putting pressure on the issuer to find a replacement bondholder and/or an alternate source of capital by a known point in time.
If the new motorsport equivalent of the Taj Mahal is built by then, and the team is more successful, the valuation and potential of the property may be more favourable for conventional financing..

Still wouldnt be a surprise to see a bank or brokerage mob appear as a team partner at some stage

Teretonga · 28 Oct 2021, 23:23 (Ref:4080498)

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Originally Posted by chavez

It is an old Indy superstition that spread to NASCAR.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...green-race-car

More here.

https://oilpressure.com/2010/01/11/t...d-color-green/

Yep.
Tell Joe Gibbs Racing that... (and Interstate Batteries)....

**bjohnsonsmith** · 11 Nov 2021, 17:50 (Ref:4082824)

Apparently Aston Martin team principal Otmar Szafnauer is about to jump ship and go to Alpine.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/aston-martin-f1-boss-szafnauer-set-for-shock-switch-to-alpine/6770226/

S griffin · 11 Nov 2021, 17:56 (Ref:4082827)

Well we’ll have to watch this space. Quite frankly I would be quite surprised if he did make the switch, although I wouldn’t be surprised if he started a technical partnership with another, but Alpine wouldn’t be one I would think of. Have to see if there is any substance to this story

wnut · 11 Nov 2021, 22:36 (Ref:4082897)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

Apparently Aston Martin team principal Otmar Szafnauer is about to jump ship and go to Alpine.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/aston-martin-f1-boss-szafnauer-set-for-shock-switch-to-alpine/6770226/

Reckon that Whitmarsh is treading on Szafnauer's toes?

Will be a lose lose situation for both Aston and Szafnauer imo.

S griffin · 15 Nov 2021, 10:45 (Ref:4083567)

Otmar is now denying the rumours, so we’ll have to see what is really happening

VIVA GT · 15 Nov 2021, 16:08 (Ref:4083626)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Otmar is now denying the rumours, so we’ll have to see what is really happening

In my experience of Formula One, denial of rumours usually turns out to be confirmation!

**GTRMagic** · 16 Nov 2021, 06:30 (Ref:4083711)

Wouldnt think its too much fun in the green Mercedes team... they lost a boatload of speed from last season.. and constructors points

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