Entry List 24H Spa - Page 2

GTfour · 6 Jul 2006, 16:43 (Ref:1649725)

I really can't wait to see those Manthey's! It's a really agressive looking car with the wing that far back on it's tail. Lovely.
Wouldn't surprise me if they took the overall win...

jross427 · 8 Jul 2006, 21:33 (Ref:1651015)

go Zakspeed

marcel82 · 9 Jul 2006, 18:18 (Ref:1651530)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTfour

I really can't wait to see those Manthey's! It's a really agressive looking car with the wing that far back on it's tail. Lovely.
Wouldn't surprise me if they took the overall win...

I think you're confusing cars here. Manthey is not running their VLN cars, but a brand new car, the 997 GT2 RSR, a car developped by Porsche.

this one can't get an overall win, as it's a GT2 car.

neither would the VLN Manthey car since:
- it's a BiTurbo, and FIA-GT regulations makes Turbo cars completely uncompetitive
- they crashed it heavily at the Nordschleife, I heard it was totaled

**FIRE** · 9 Jul 2006, 18:27 (Ref:1651542)

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcel82

this one can't get an overall win, as it's a GT2 car.

Spa...rain...

marcel82 · 9 Jul 2006, 21:09 (Ref:1651737)

there was rain last year, too. still a mazzer won it.

ok, in 2003 won a porsche won it, but that was extreme. and you do have the occasional dry weekend in Spa

brielga · 10 Jul 2006, 14:10 (Ref:1652309)

I'd be surprised in a GT2 would get a shot, too many last generation cars (Aston, Maserati, C6R...)

gwyllion · 10 Jul 2006, 14:50 (Ref:1652341)

If it is extremely wet the BMW could win because it has ABS and TC

GTfour · 10 Jul 2006, 20:28 (Ref:1652822)

neither would the VLN Manthey car since:
- it's a BiTurbo, and FIA-GT regulations makes Turbo cars completely uncompetitive
- they crashed it heavily at the Nordschleife, I heard it was totaled[/quote]

@marcel82

I would have to disagree with you,for the GT3-MR is a normally aspirated car and it also won the 24 hours of the Nurburgring. (maybe it crashed during an event after that win?)
Also the car they won with,was based on a 997...

SALEEN S7R · 10 Jul 2006, 20:38 (Ref:1652839)

Whilst I agree that a overall win for a GT2 car is unlikely it is not beyond the bounds of possibilty. IMO. Remember a GT2 car stops roughly once every 90 minutes and a GT1 car about once every hour. A pitstop at Spa takes more or less 1 lap, so yeah whilst the GT2 cars are a little slower but effectivly every 3 hours the GT2 cars gain 1 lap back. The GT2 cars also tend to be more reliable than the GT1 cars for some reason.

GT2 cars normally finish inside the top 8, last year the lead GT2 car finished 7th overall and in 2004 the lead NGT car was 3rd overall. I wont be too suprised if a GT2 or G2 class car wins this years Spa 24hrs. The 2 Scuderia Ecosse cars and the 2 Manthey Porsches and the 2 AF Corse cars and perhaps the #75 Ebimotors car all are capable of winning overall. IMO.

GTfour · 10 Jul 2006, 20:58 (Ref:1652868)

Just read Manthey is indeed entering a totally new 997 GT3 RSR for the Spa race. Saw some pics too. Very nice looking set of exhausts!

Marcel ten Caat · 10 Jul 2006, 22:14 (Ref:1652974)

"Goedemorgen'

Bramzel · 20 Jul 2006, 15:11 (Ref:1660841)

Little update, quite a couple of strong lineups. The lineup on the PSI C6R is quite impressive as well, a outsider?

GT1

Vitaphone Racing Team (GER) - Maserati MC12
#1 - Michael Bartels (GER) / Andrea Bertolini (ITA) / Eric van de Poele (BEL)
#2 - Jamie Davies (GBR) / Thomas Biagi (ITA) / Vincent Vosse (BEL)

GLPK Racing (BEL) - Corvette C6.R
#4 - Mike Hezemans (NED) / Anthony Kumpen (BEL) / Bert Longin (BEL) / Kurt Mollekens (BEL)

Phoenix Racing (GER) - Aston Martin DBR9
#5 - Andrea Piccini (ITA) / Jean-Deniz Deletraz (SUI) / Marcel Fässler (SUI) / Stéphane Lemeret (BEL)

Zakspeed Racing (GER) - Saleen S7R
#9 - Sascha Bert (GER) / Jarek Janis (CZE) / tba

BMS Scuderia (ITA) - Aston Martin DBR9
#23 - Christian Pescatori (ITA) / Fabio Babini (ITA) / Tomas Enge (CZE)
#24 - Fabrizio Gollin (ITA) / Miguel Ramos (POR) / Matteo Malucelli (ITA) / Cabriele Lancieri (ITA)

Race Alliance (AUT) - Aston Martin DBR9
#33 - Karl Wendlinger (AUT) / Philipp Peter (AUT) / Christophe Bouchut (FRA) / Robert Lechner (AUT)

PSI Experience (BEL) - Corvette C6.R & C5R
#34 - Jos Menten (NED) / Patrick Bornhauser (FRA) / Jean-Philippe Belloc (FRA) / Fred Bouvy (FRA)
#-- - Markus Palttala (FIN) / Pertti Kuismanen (FIN) / Vincent Radermecker (BEL) / Bernard Delhez (FRA)

Selleslagh Racing Team (BEL) - Corvette C5R
#35 - David Hart (NED) / Chris Buncombe (GBR) / Maxime Soulet (BEL) / Geoffroy Horion (BEL)

GT2

Renauer Motorsport (AUT) - Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
#52 - Wolfgang Kaufmann (GER) / Luca Moro (ITA) / tba

JMB Racing (MON) - Ferrari 430 GTC
#55 - Tim Sugden (GBR) / Iradj Alexander-David (SUI) / tba
#56 - Antoine Gosse (FRA) / Peter Kutemann (NED) / tba

AF Corse (ITA) - Ferrari 430 GTC
#58 - Matteo Bobbi (ITA) / Jaime Melo (BRA) / Stephane Ortelli (MON)
#59 - Mika Salo (FIN) / Rui Aguas (POR) / Timo Scheider (GER)

Scuderia Ecosse (GBR) - Ferrari 430 GTC
#62 - Nathan Kinch (GBR) / Andrew Kirkaldy (GBR) / Marino Franchitti (GBR)
#63 - Chris Niarchos (GRE) / Tim Mullen (GBR) / Allan Simonsen (DAN)

Team Felbermayr-Proton (GER) - Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
#66 - Christian Ried (GER) / Horst Felbermayr Jr. (GER) / Gerold Ried (GER) / Horst Felbermayr Sr. (GER)

GPC Sport (ITA) - Ferrari 430 GTC
#70 - Gabriele Gardel (SUI) / Fabrizio de Simone (ITA) / Andrea Montermini (ITA)

RSV Motorsport (SPA) - Ferrari 430 GTC
#71 - Roland Severin (GER) / Domingo Romero (SPA) / Michel Ligonnet (FRA) / Peter Sundberg (SWE)

AB Motorsport (ITA) - Porsche 996 GT3-RS
#72 - Antonio de Castro (ITA) / Renato Premoli (ITA) / Bruno Barbaro (ITA)

Ebimotors (ITA) - Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
#74 - Luigi Moccia (ITA) / Emanuele Busnelli (ITA) / Johnny Mowlem (GBR)
#75 - Emmanuel Collard (FRA) / Luca Riccitelli (ITA) / Romain Domas (FRA)

ARC Bratislava (SVK) - Porsche 996 GT3-RS
#77 - Miro Konopka (SVK) / Stefan Rosina (SVK) / tba

Ice Pol Racing (BEL) - Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
#78 - Yves Lambert (BEL) / Christian Lefort (BEL) / Marc Goossens (BEL)

JMB Racing (MON) - Ferrari 360 GTC
#79 - Didier de Radigues (BEL) / Charles de Pauw (BEL) / Alain van den Hove (BEL) / Paul Belmondo (FRA)

Spyker Squadron (NED) - Spyker C8 Spyder GT2R
#80 - Jeroen Bleekemolen (NED) / Johnny Kane (GBR) / tba

Race Alliance (AUT) - Porsche 996 GT3-RSR
#99 - Lukas Lichtner-Hoyer (AUT) / Thomas Gruber (AUT) / tba

G2

Belgian Racing (BEL) - Gillet Vertigo
#101 - Bas Leinders (BEL) / Renaud Kuppens (BEL) / Jerome d'Ambrosio (BEL)

First Motorsport (BEL) - Porsche 996 GT3-RS
#105 - Peter van Delm (BEL) / Jean-Claude Meert (BEL) / Maxime Martin (BEL)

Prospeed Competition (BEL) - Porsche 996 GT3-RS
#194 - Rudi Penders (BEL) / Franz Lamot (BEL) / Jean-François Hemroulle (BEL)

Manthey Racing (GER) - Porsche 997 GT3-RSR
#911 - Timo Bernhard (GER) / Marc Lieb (GER) / Pedro Lamy (POR)
#997 - Lucas Luhr (GER) / Sascha Maassen (GER) / Marcel Tiemann (GER)

G3

GPR Racing Pino (BEL) - Porsche 997 GT3 Cup
#110 - Nicolas de Gastines (BEL) / Philippe Haezebrouck (FRA) / Philippe Hotinguer (FRA)

Pilotage Passion (FRA) - Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
#111 - Philippe Nozier (FRA) / Remy Brouard (FRA) / tba

Pouchelon Racing (FRA) / Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
#112 - Maxime Dumarey (BEL) / Anthony Ried (GBR) / Ian Khan (GBR) / Paul van Splunteren (NED)
#113 - Gilles Duqueine (FRA) / Gael Lessoudier (FRA) / Benoit Rousselot (FRA) / Theirry Stepec (FRA)
#114 - Michel Trolle (FRA) / Romain Bera (FRA) / Christian Demigneux (FRA) / Patrick Lemarie (FRA)

BMS Scuderia Italia - Aston Martin DBRS9
#115 - Diego Alessi (ITA) / Franco Groppi (ITA) / Toni Seiler (AUT) / Davide Stancheris (ITA)

Signa Racing (BEL) - Dodge Viper Competition Coupe
#116 - Patrick Chaillet (BEL) / Laurent Nef (BEL) / tba

Jean Charles Levy (FRA) - Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
#117 - Philippe Levy (FRA) / Jean Charles Levy (FRA) / Michel Mitieus (FRA) / Gerard Tremblay (FRA)

Prospeed Competition (BEL) - Porsche 996 GT3 Cup
#195 - François Duval (BEL) / Christophe Kerkhove (BEL) / Christian Kelders (BEL) / Pascal Nelissen-Grade (BEL)

Ranald · 20 Jul 2006, 18:57 (Ref:1660992)

DSC are reporting that the Duller BMW Z4 has withdrawn because of engine problems in testing. The car will now make its debut at Zolder for the Belcar 24hrs.
Also disappearing is the #106 Verbist Porsche 996 GT3-RS

Audi R8R · 20 Jul 2006, 21:09 (Ref:1661055)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SALEEN S7R

A pitstop at Spa takes more or less 1 lap,

Don't know what you're timing a pit-stop on, a sun-dial?

Fuel and tyres (all four) for a normal FIA GT stop is around 45-50 seconds. That includes the drivers changing at the same time.

The pitlane entry doesn't take over a minute, even at Spa. But I see your point on the GT2 cars running for longer.

The only thing that will give a GT2 car a chance at outright victory will be constant rain and a stellar driver line-up.

Ortelli reckoned at Le Mans if it was wet a GT1 car could have a chance at overall honours, so a GT2 win at Spa is definately on th cards, weather permitting.

gwyllion · 20 Jul 2006, 21:55 (Ref:1661075)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audi R8R

The only thing that will give a GT2 car a chance at outright victory will be constant rain and a stellar driver line-up.

Ortelli reckoned at Le Mans if it was wet a GT1 car could have a chance at overall honours, so a GT2 win at Spa is definately on th cards, weather permitting.

Ortelli did it with the Freisinger Porsche

SALEEN S7R · 20 Jul 2006, 22:27 (Ref:1661091)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Audi R8R

Don't know what you're timing a pit-stop on, a sun-dial?

In the past on live TV coverage I have seen cars that are about to be lapped by a faster GT1 car and then the GT1 car suddenly has to pit, by the time the GT1 car has changed its tyres and re fuelled and come out of the pit lane at Spa and is along the Kemmel straight the GT2 car is alongside it. A pitstop at Spa loses you about 1 lap if you have a car just behind/ahead of you when you pit. Martin Haven and David Leslie both said that to get to the pit box at Spa takes over 1 minute for the GT1 cars. Stil, what do they know?

IMO a G2 or GT2 car has a realistic chance of winning the Spa 24hrs overall, of course they wont be starting as favourites, everyone knows that, but a top GT2 or G2 class car does have a decent chance. IMO.

Bramzel · 21 Jul 2006, 07:43 (Ref:1661261)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SALEEN S7R

IMO a G2 or GT2 car has a realistic chance of winning the Spa 24hrs overall, of course they wont be starting as favourites, everyone knows that, but a top GT2 or G2 class car does have a decent chance. IMO.

As Audi R8R said, only when the weather conditions are dreadfull. Under dry circumstances I really don't see this happening.

SALEEN S7R · 21 Jul 2006, 09:00 (Ref:1661320)

GT2 cars often finish in the top 3 overall in the Spa 24hrs, and as we all know sometimes even end up winning the race, albeit with very bad weather conditions. As we all know at Spa it is almost certain to rain over a 24 hour period, how much rain however is of course in the lap of the gods. If there was say 4 or 5hrs of rain over the 24hrs that would help the GT2 cars signifcantly as they are faster than a lot of the GT1 machinery in wet conditions.

Still, I guess we will just have to wait and see what happens.

Satorian · 23 Jul 2006, 00:43 (Ref:1662387)

Duller will field a BMW M3 GTR in cooperation with RaceAlliance. It's the car that ran in the Dubai 24h and it'll run on Michelin with Wendlinger/Peter/Bouchut/Lechner, while the 996 Porsche is left at home due to a bemoaned lack of support from Porsche.

Bramzel · 23 Jul 2006, 02:48 (Ref:1662452)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satorian

Duller will field a BMW M3 GTR in cooperation with RaceAlliance. It's the car that ran in the Dubai 24h and it'll run on Michelin with Wendlinger/Peter/Bouchut/Lechner, while the 996 Porsche is left at home due to a bemoaned lack of support from Porsche.

Small correction; Wendlinger/Peter/Bouchut/Lechner will still drive their DBR9, the M3 GTR will be driven by Lichtner-Hoyer and Gruber, wich will be partnered by Thomas Engelhorn. This is sweet news though, will be cool to see that Duller M3 in action.

Satorian · 23 Jul 2006, 15:38 (Ref:1662783)

Ah, OK. Must have gotten that wrong reading gt-eins.de. The article made no mention of the DBR9.

What class will the BMW run? G2?

Wout · 23 Jul 2006, 17:44 (Ref:1662828)

Yes, G2

SALEEN S7R · 23 Jul 2006, 23:35 (Ref:1663016)

Looking ahead to Players TV coverage for the Spa 24hrs by my calculations we should be getting 5hrs 15 minutes of live coverage. Thats pretty good IMO, yes it could be better but its better than nothing.

The Tour · 24 Jul 2006, 11:00 (Ref:1663279)

Sorry if there is a trackside post about Spa but I couldn't find it.

I have made a late call to get out there on the ferry on Friday night. Can anyone give me some info as this will be my first visit to Spa.....

1/ Can we sleep somewhere in the car??? (Cant be bothered to pitch up)
2/ Can you pay on the door??
3/ What is the traffic like to get back to Calais?? There are ferries about 11pm back to Blighty on Sunday night. Will that leave enough time??

Thanks people. I would be grateful for any other do's or dont's for Spa....

ger80 · 24 Jul 2006, 11:30 (Ref:1663299)

sleeping in the car is no problem at all. did the same LMS spa, at le combes

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