Boring Barcelona - Page 2

Knowlesy · 16 May 2006, 19:44 (Ref:1611794)

Well, it is interesting to a point. But more admirable than exciting, I would say.

**Bononi** · 16 May 2006, 22:10 (Ref:1611932)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

I agree that it lacked the sort of dramatic incident that makes you jump out of your seat, but surely I can't be the only person on here to enjoy seeing the perfect combination of man and machine, as displayed by the phenomenal Alonso behind the wheel of his Renault.

Don't worry Super Hans, you'll get used to it...

Marbot · 17 May 2006, 00:15 (Ref:1612001)

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Originally Posted by Super Hans

but surely I can't be the only person on here to enjoy seeing the perfect combination of man and machine, as displayed by the phenomenal Alonso behind the wheel of his Renault.

Great for the History books,but not so good for T.V.

Mark Webber · 17 May 2006, 00:34 (Ref:1612006)

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Originally Posted by The Monster

The tracks aren't the problem, its the cars.

Change the cars, not the tracks.

your rigt monster

but some tracks are just boring and Spain is on that list and high on it

but 2008 will bring the spilt rear wing car which I'm looking forward to and 07 bring back slicks

but it would be nice to see the cars at jerez its the same with france Gp magny cours is sooooooooooooooooo boring sometimes a change is good I would like to see counties spice it up bit and say every two / three year move the Gp to another track in said country this would be a good spanner in the works

bauble · 17 May 2006, 09:36 (Ref:1612397)

Come on chaps! Those pit stops were incredibly gripping, I leapt out of my seat every time someone swept, sorry trundled. in to their berth and all of those funny men in space outfits pulled rubbish out of the side pods!
The tension was enormous! would the nozzle get stuck? Would the wheel stick on? How many spacemen would get knocked over? And would the lollipop man hit the driver on the head as he drove off?
The great advantage of this viewing is that you can mow the lawn for about twenty minutes before the first stops, and shut the Missus up.
Boring? Never!

**John Turner** · 17 May 2006, 11:27 (Ref:1612477)

Sorry guys, every now and then bauble escapes the history forums and has to be retrieved and straitjacketed! Oh, wait .... that's me, too!

rustyfan · 17 May 2006, 14:37 (Ref:1612626)

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Originally Posted by bauble

Come on chaps! Those pit stops were incredibly gripping, I leapt out of my seat every time someone swept, sorry trundled. in to their berth and all of those funny men in space outfits pulled rubbish out of the side pods!
The tension was enormous! would the nozzle get stuck? Would the wheel stick on? How many spacemen would get knocked over? And would the lollipop man hit the driver on the head as he drove off?
The great advantage of this viewing is that you can mow the lawn for about twenty minutes before the first stops, and shut the Missus up.
Boring? Never!

ECW Dan Selby · 17 May 2006, 15:30 (Ref:1612665)

lmao Yeh I found that funny, too. I mean i'm a big F1 fan, but F1 can have its share of extremely dull races/moments. You know it's bad when the usually enthusiastic (by 'enthusiastic' I mean enthusiastic to get the sport over as being exciting 24/7) commentators are admitting it was 'dull'. I was pretty out of it for the first half of the race and was fooled into thinking it was really exciting... Then my buzz wore off.

It'd be nice to see some changes in F1. What precisely, is difficult to nail.

Selby

**Bononi** · 17 May 2006, 16:22 (Ref:1612695)

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Originally Posted by John Turner

Sorry guys, every now and then bauble escapes the history forums and has to be retrieved and straitjacketed! Oh, wait .... that's me, too!

John, I'll better send some of our "best" posters to you...

Jordi · 17 May 2006, 17:43 (Ref:1612759)

Well guys, I was there and yeah, it was a tad boring.

I did see three or four passes down the field, notably one of Nick Heidfeld around the outside of turn 1 on Barrichello (IIRC).

I think Montmeló could do with a tighter turn one. There is room to make that, and I'd prefer changing that rather than the last turn, which seems to be quite enjoyable for the drivers as a fast 250, 5th gear corner.

However, while the GP2 Sunday race was largely processional, the Saturday one was very entertaining. You've got to note the GP2 cars have more mechanical grip than F1 cars... (through slick tyres and a rear wing which has one less element than last year).

Sodemo · 17 May 2006, 18:07 (Ref:1612780)

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Originally Posted by ralf fan

Not really... it is a bit of both.... i mean tracks like SPA and Monaco produce great races even in the dullest of seasons because they have certain characteristics that others dont.

In my view you are correct to a point, however the F1 cars from 1991 and 1992 could pass quite easily down into turn 1.

Fast corners shouldn't mean an impossibility to follow and pass (as it is now), rather fast corners should be there to make it "tricky".

In its current guise the F1 car / track combination make passing at Barcelona nigh on impossible. However if you made F1 cars more like the cars of the early 90's then passing should be tough, but not impossible like it is today.

karimbo · 19 May 2006, 01:54 (Ref:1613893)

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Originally Posted by Bononi

luke, you have a talent to bring on the worst in the threads...

Luke Honesty is the best policy !!!

What "happened" in Spain:

1) Ralf bends his front wing against Jarno back wheel.
2) Montoya spins out because of faltering traction control.
3) Schuey overtakes Fisi... in the pits.

Has anyone taped the race ? Please send me a copy of it: I'm out of sleeping pills...

2112 · 19 May 2006, 03:11 (Ref:1613913)

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Originally Posted by pdman

That said,
Imola, Barcelona and Monoco should all be scrapped.
Monoco is just an excuse for the extremley rich to show off and they have 22 drivers to entertain them by going round and round in procession whilst they smoke cigars, drink champeigne and eat caviar.....

Not that I'm jealous or anything ;-)

I also find humour in any post that suggests Monaco should be scrapped

bauble · 19 May 2006, 12:00 (Ref:1614160)

2112!!!

Did I miss read your post?

22 drivers going round smoking cigars, drinking champagne and eating caviar?

Well that would explain a lot Oh! Oh! I can see the men with the straitjacket. I'd better get back to the History forum before JT finds me missing.

**Bononi** · 19 May 2006, 12:19 (Ref:1614176)

I would go for that champagne and girls in bikini any time.

Oh, we're talking about racing !

So, I still go for that...

Jordi · 19 May 2006, 17:46 (Ref:1614357)

OK, so Barcelona was boring, but do you think all the races pre-1998 were incredibly exciting with lots of passing? No.

If there wasn't a boring race from time to time we'd stop appreciating the exciting ones!

Marbot · 19 May 2006, 18:27 (Ref:1614382)

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Originally Posted by Jordi

OK, so Barcelona was boring, but do you think all the races pre-1998 were incredibly exciting with lots of passing? No.

Not all the races,but much more so than recently.And why pre-98?

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Originally Posted by Jordi

If there wasn't a boring race from time to time we'd stop appreciating the exciting ones!

Trouble is that there are quite a few potential bore fests still to come (Hungary,France etc).And they took the best one away (Belgium).

bauble · 19 May 2006, 21:08 (Ref:1614460)

Time for a new thread I suggest.

What was the most boring race ever?

This should run and run.

I'll nominate Spain 2006 just to kick things off.

Oh! NO! Alonso Zig Zagged and Kimi waved, scrap my last suggestion. I'll reconsider my choice.

Back i 1961 there was the ..............zzzzzzz.

Dutton · 19 May 2006, 21:12 (Ref:1614463)

Indy 2005 would most likely be the winner for that one. I am uncertain whether it can be defeated.

Hungary 2004 would have to be a contender also. Mind you, it did have an exquisite display of expert banana peeling.

Marbot · 20 May 2006, 00:44 (Ref:1614581)

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Originally Posted by Dutton

Indy 2005 would most likely be the winner for that one. I am uncertain whether it can be defeated.

Wasn't really a race was it and i seem to remember at least one successful overtaking manouvre.

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Originally Posted by Dutton

Mind you, it did have an exquisite display of expert banana peeling.

Ahh...Magnificent technique.Bloody awful race though.

Sodemo · 20 May 2006, 12:05 (Ref:1614811)

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Originally Posted by Jordi

OK, so Barcelona was boring, but do you think all the races pre-1998 were incredibly exciting with lots of passing? No.

No of course not, however the frequency at which boring races occur now has increased dramatically.

I still have Melbourne 1997 on tape and to be honest, it was so boring, not a single pass, the only moment of excitement was when Frentzen's brakes failed at turn 1.

However I have other races like Suzuka 1996 which was fantastic, Jacques Villeneuve made 3 excellent passes from miles back into the Casino Triangle, brakes locked up, fantastic.

I also have lots of footage from 1991 and 1990 and the overall quality of racing was much higher than now.

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