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fish88 · 28 Oct 2007, 23:27 (Ref:2053681)

That would be sad, love the road car.

911 GT1 · 29 Oct 2007, 14:18 (Ref:2054067)

At the presentation of Ferrari Classiche Montezemolo said, that they do not build a GT1 car based on the 599.

minimangler · 29 Oct 2007, 15:49 (Ref:2054139)

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Originally Posted by 911 GT1

At the presentation of Ferrari Classiche Montezemolo said, that they do not build a GT1 car based on the 599.

Doesn't mean they won't, or someone private won't.

Francesco · 29 Oct 2007, 18:23 (Ref:2054259)

599 GTC has been evalued for a long time... Ferrari won't go against Maserati until Mc12 program expires, the 575 GTC program was another story, there where other peoples involved that wanted to make and sell the cars linked to Ferrari... btw for the next 1-2 years no 599 GTC from Ferrari and in 2010 there will be at least 1, maybe 2 new more track oriented cars from Ferrari the new "Enzo" (which should be based upon the FXX program car so something more than 800Hp) and the successor of 430 which will be a very different car, a completely new philosophy off from the 430 which is more of an evolution (compared to 360) than a completely new car...

Maserati will probably be making a new "Trofeo" car from the new Granturismo which (thankfully) is a much better car than the old 4200GT (no surprise... doing a worse job would be quite difficult)

Wilbo · 29 Oct 2007, 21:21 (Ref:2054393)

Surely GT2 will race with GT1 at the same meetings in Europe???

How can we have a world championship that doesn't feature two of the 'mass' production models from the famous marques Ferrari and Porsche???? Surely they won't build special cars for GT1.

So the ACO propose to put roofs on LMP cars in the future and Ratel goes down this avenue, how is this supposed to work???

AU N EGL · 29 Oct 2007, 21:41 (Ref:2054409)

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Originally Posted by Wilbo

How can we have a world championship that doesn't feature two of the 'mass' production models from the famous marques Ferrari and Porsche???? Surely they won't build special cars for GT1.

GT World Championships? Build special cars for GT1? Absolutely. Can we say F1 all over again

If ppl really what to keep cost down, dont have a world championships.

Bob Riebe · 29 Oct 2007, 22:18 (Ref:2054433)

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL

GT World Championships? Build special cars for GT1? Absolutely. Can we say F1 all over again

If ppl really what to keep cost down, dont have a world championships.

If they have the prod. quota that existed during the Ferrari GTO and Daytona Coupe days, minus the Yunick type interpretation of the rules, that will put a fairly heavy brake on super specials, as 25 can be done but 100 is a whole different ball game.
If they also make parts RPO or general parts book pieces only, that again drastically reduces the probability of special items.

IF those rules, or even something similar to the seventie in IMSA existed, the Corvette domination would not have come about, at least as quickly, and not at all if Dodge had not bailed.

Bob

AU N EGL · 30 Oct 2007, 13:02 (Ref:2054880)

Ford Mustang racing prepared cars http://www.fordracingparts.com/mustang/competition2.asp

minimangler · 30 Oct 2007, 13:18 (Ref:2054905)

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL

Ford Mustang racing prepared cars http://www.fordracingparts.com/mustang/competition2.asp

yeah, but the GT3 is crap, and it isn't exactly GT1/2 material is it?

TheNewBob · 30 Oct 2007, 14:02 (Ref:2054941)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

yeah, but the GT3 is crap

I'm sure the people behind the project who put many hours of effort into their work would be delighted to read such a mindlessly blunt remark...

It will be interesting to hear feedback from teams and manufacturers about the prospects of a GT world championship. So far I've not really heard of anyone who supports the idea besides Ratel...

AU N EGL · 30 Oct 2007, 14:02 (Ref:2054942)

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Originally Posted by minimangler

yeah, but the GT3 is crap, and it isn't exactly GT1/2 material is it?

Heard rumors ( but evey knows about rumors) there will be a GT2 Mustang team for ALMS in 2008.

AU N EGL · 30 Oct 2007, 20:07 (Ref:2055313)

SEMA autoshow current in Las Vagas has several race ready or almost race ready cars with OVER 600 bhp running on E85 fuel

GT1 rules when they come out in 2010 might be behind manufactures technolgy AGAIN.

JAG · 30 Oct 2007, 20:42 (Ref:2055345)

From DSC's editorial:-

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So much of this saga seems to hinge on this GT1 World Championship idea, a concept that was frowned upon in August

This is what it boils down to, the FIA/Ratel NEED GT1 cars to put on a show worthy of a World Championship in there, and my opinion.

Unfortunately major manufactuers would prefare to race in the LMS/ALMS, much of the time with prototypes.

A single GT2 type class would suit the manufactuers, teams, Le Mans, LMS and ALMS.

So are we really going to jeperdise potentially amazing, well supported, GT racing in the above ACO events, for the sake of proping up an FIA GT World Championship?

AU N EGL · 30 Oct 2007, 22:01 (Ref:2055401)

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Originally Posted by JAG

So are we really going to jeperdise potentially amazing, well supported, GT racing in the above ACO events, for the sake of proping up an FIA GT World Championship?

I agree. Unfortunitly some ppl doen't 'GET IT'.

So what is wrong with the LM24 as the GT & LMP World Championship race? Teams get invited from the LMS, JPLM, ALMS, and a few special invites. Not a thing.

It WORKS.

ThePenguin · 30 Oct 2007, 23:22 (Ref:2055454)

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Originally Posted by AU N EGL

Heard rumors ( but evey knows about rumors) there will be a GT2 Mustang team for ALMS in 2008.

I thought that the GT2 Mustang had been dropped in favor of making a GT2 Ford GT.

GT-Eins · 30 Oct 2007, 23:57 (Ref:2055469)

From what I heared I would guess that Ford plans their GT-Future like Ford GT as (new) GT1 and the Mustang as (new) GT3.

Hugewally · 31 Oct 2007, 01:13 (Ref:2055510)

http://www.fordracingparts.com/musta...Specsdraft.pdf

AU N EGL · 31 Oct 2007, 12:12 (Ref:2055809)

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Originally Posted by ThePenguin

I thought that the GT2 Mustang had been dropped in favor of making a GT2 Ford GT.

Nope

Ford is building the GT2/GT3/GT4 Mustangs, the Ford GT-R is built by a private company.

ie there may be TWO different Ford models in GT2.

Graham Goodwin · 31 Oct 2007, 12:42 (Ref:2055840)

Not correct - In Europe the Mustang FR 500GT (Gt3 spec car) and FR500 C (GT4 spec car) are now handled by Matech - The same concern which is building the GT3 spec Ford GT

AU N EGL · 31 Oct 2007, 13:49 (Ref:2055904)

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Originally Posted by Graham Goodwin

Not correct - In Europe the Mustang FR 500GT (Gt3 spec car) and FR500 C (GT4 spec car) are now handled by Matech - The same concern which is building the GT3 spec Ford GT

Ok then we are BOTH correct. Differnt builders for Europe and NA cars

JAG · 1 Nov 2007, 23:54 (Ref:2057327)

The latest is that this FIA GT World Championship could consist of ONE hour races!

Was nice knowing you FIA GT, farewell!

jaybond · 2 Nov 2007, 02:52 (Ref:2057384)

I think FIA should allow 4-wheel drive GT cars to compete in GT1/GT2 class to add more diversity (Audi S5 & R8, Nissan GT-R, Lambo Gallardo).

Zytek_Fan · 2 Nov 2007, 02:58 (Ref:2057386)

****. FIA GT would be dead to me if it were one hour races.

Bob Riebe · 2 Nov 2007, 04:30 (Ref:2057415)

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Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan

****. FIA GT would be dead to me if it were one hour races.

I doubt that very much, the IMSA really started to thrive when it added 100 mile sprint races to the schedule.

Such races leave no room for error, you go as hard as you can for as long as you can, period.
Of course with the "safety" yellows and such nowadays, they could turn a one hour race into a two hour parade lap snooze fest for "safety's" sake.

Bob

Graham Goodwin · 2 Nov 2007, 09:16 (Ref:2057531)

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Originally Posted by JAG

The latest is that this FIA GT World Championship could consist of ONE hour races!

Was nice knowing you FIA GT, farewell!

Incorrect JAG - though I understand why you'd have come to that conclusion - The (current) plan is for 60 minute GT2 races in Europe and 2 hour GT1 races for the 'World Championship'

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