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View Poll Results: ...who you want to be the replacement of DC at Mclaren next year? | |||
Juan Pablo Montoya | 8 | 10.13% | |
Jacques Villeneuve | 17 | 21.52% | |
Giancarlo Fisichella | 22 | 27.85% | |
Nick Heidfeld | 10 | 12.66% | |
Jenson Button | 2 | 2.53% | |
Gary Paffett | 4 | 5.06% | |
Other driver (specify) | 5 | 6.33% | |
No, keep DC in his seat! | 11 | 13.92% | |
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25 Jul 2003, 03:01 (Ref:670761) | #26 | |||
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Who do you think deserves the seat then? Rubens/Jacques/HHF.....it better be an experienced driver rather than hot rookies or newbies
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25 Jul 2003, 03:07 (Ref:670765) | #28 | ||
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Why would it have to be experienced drivers? After all, look how well Kimi is doing in comparison to DC, then weigh up their experience.
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25 Jul 2003, 03:12 (Ref:670767) | #29 | ||
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Kimi is doing well because of the car's development based on DC's feedback. Take Williams for an example...last year's car was based on Ralf's feedback and Montoya benefitted by getting all those pole positions...early this year they produced the cars based on Montoya's feedback and what happened? I suspect their comeback middle of this season was because they used Ralf's feedback again.
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25 Jul 2003, 04:12 (Ref:670791) | #31 | ||
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Funny!! I just posted on the other thread that Fisi and Kimi would make an interesting team.
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I voted for Fisco,a good driver and he deserves a chance to drive for a top team.
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25 Jul 2003, 07:21 (Ref:670861) | #33 | ||
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Maybe we should chuck Ralf out and put Fisi in the Williams.
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25 Jul 2003, 07:33 (Ref:670870) | #34 | |
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I voted for Heidfeld - I thought he was unlucky to be overlooked a couple of years ago in favour of Raikkonen when McLaren were replacing Hakkinen.
I don't think some of the other options on the poll are all that realistic. Raikkonen seems to be the favourite at McLaren now, and I can't see Montoya going there when Williams have two very good drivers who compete on an equal footing. Villeneuve's management will struggle to talk him into a decent car based on his recent mediocre performances. And I think Paffett is too inexperienced to go straight into a McLaren - perhaps he'd be better off with a long-term contract to McLaren but spend a year or two at another team to gain experience. As for Fisichella and Button - to my mind, Fisichella has failed to impress year after year and doesn't deserve a seat in a top team. And although Button and Raikkonen would probably be a good line-up for McLaren (I think they'd gain more points in an average race weekend than Raikkonen and DC do), I would have thought that BAR would be keen to keep hold of him. |
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Food for thought RG. Can't fault your thoughts really. I think Jacques will find it difficult to get a ride ina top team simply because he has proven not to be a team man. Worse, he is not burning off Bunsen, is he? Heidfeld has never really had a ride to prove himself, just like Fisi.
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He proved himself in 2001 did he not? He got a podium at Brazil, in a fantastic drive.
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25 Jul 2003, 11:47 (Ref:671023) | #38 | ||
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Ireally hope JV gets the drive he has been down on his luck for a while and deserves a good ride !!
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25 Jul 2003, 11:51 (Ref:671026) | #39 | ||
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I really hope JV gets the drive he has been down on his luck for a while and deserves a good ride !!
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25 Jul 2003, 11:59 (Ref:671031) | #40 | ||
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DC would still be better than JV. Ron wouldnt put up with the tantrums and would end up giving him a tiara rather than a race car
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I never thought Jenson got a fair shot at Benetton/Renault - for the most part, Flavio Briatore was all too keen to find fault with him (which I always thought was because he could use all these problems to justify replacing him with Alonso, knowing that a lot of people would be critical of the decision). Also, bear in mind the differing lengths of time they've been in F1. Fisichella first raced in 1996, and got his real chance in 97 driving for Jordan. He did well that year, most would say considerably better than Ralf, but hasn't really made an impression since. The way I see it, the most promising drivers of Fisichella's generation were noticed and given good drives, Ralf being the most obvious example. But since then, Fisichella has been overlooked in favour of up-and-comers, and I really think his chance has gone. He's won one race by the luck of being in the lead when a race was red-flagged, but most of the time fails to challenge. I honestly think that Button, with the right equipment, would be a better prospect. |
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25 Jul 2003, 13:29 (Ref:671093) | #44 | |
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Forget Fisichella - he isn't up to the job mentally or emotionally.
Put Wilson in the car (when Jag fire him for not realising his potential in their hospitality tent or some other ridiculous reason) |
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25 Jul 2003, 15:30 (Ref:671190) | #46 | ||
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Its for sure the Italian in me... No denying that!!
Fisi has motivation problems this year (apart from the win in Brazil)- a veteran in a crappy car. Firman is highly motivated, and is getting his big chance after so many years. I don't want to get Tye or Teddy after me, but I don't think Jacque$ deserves the high rating he is getting... Don't get me wrong, I like Button, and I highly rate him, but he *was* trounced by Fisi when they were together at Renault... RG: You didn't think Jenson got a fair deal at Renault? It was Fisi who didn't get the fair deal, turfed out of there, after having beaten every teammate he had there. Jenson got the bad deal at Williams... Turfed out of there in favour of Montoya.. Last edited by Inigo Montoya; 25 Jul 2003 at 15:34. |
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When you consider that Jenson is leading Jacques (currently) by 8 points and Fisi only managed to beat Jenson by 6. |
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Well, I don't want to defend Jacque$, but he has had some reliability probs. What was the qualifying battle between Fisi and Button. I seem to remember it being pretty one sided.
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For Fisi-Firman, its quite telling:
Fridays: 9-2 (in favour of Fisi) Saturdays: 10-1 (in favour of Fisi). For Button Fisi (2001): http://www.f1roro.co.uk/f1stats/teamcomparison.html 13-4 in favour of Fisi. Convinced yet? Last edited by Inigo Montoya; 25 Jul 2003 at 16:06. |
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