BOSS GP

[Thundersports]

Originally Posted by H.Eng

80s f2 cars and club f3 cars are to slow, the closing speeds are dangerous thats the problem Ian!!

most of the so called uk drivers say every year why dont we have more meetings in the uk, when we do, like brands last year, they still stay at home and polish there cars!!!!!!!!!
the costs need to be reduced, starting with the circuit fees, then we may get somwhere...........

Mr Hansford the slowest Club F3 practice time the last time they were on Brands Indy in comparable conditions was 50s a full 10s quicker than the slowest Euroboss car; the quickest guys were in the 44s which would have lined them up around 9th/10th on the grid. At that meeting Chris Woodhouse demonstrated that a well driven smaller car is not an issue. The simple way to police the speed differencial in both series (which I think should be a rule now) would be to have 110% time rule in qualifying.

Yes too many Uk drivers stay at home when there is a UK race but that hasn't been helped in recent years to a very fluid calender. As rule of thumb if you browse the entrys for various races over the years you tend to only get one or two extra local entry per event, ie Kokney Koi UK, Rajamaki Sweden, Van Hee Belgium.

[flatbroke]

The thing with letting the F2 and F3 cars in is at least you might get 15 cars on the grid.

Most reports I have been reading from the last few years are , F1 cars do 3 laps in practise and the the Gearbox breaks and homeward bound that car goes ,

when you have 8-10 car grid , and 3 cars break done after or in practise , very boring race for the people that have paid entry to the circuit and fuel , food etc then to see to 5 cars running around , at least with a few smaller cars the spectators get to watch a race.

[Thundersports]

Originally Posted by flatbroke

The thing with letting the F2 and F3 cars in is at least you might get 15 cars on the grid.

Most reports I have been reading from the last few years are , F1 cars do 3 laps in practise and the the Gearbox breaks and homeward bound that car goes ,

when you have 8-10 car grid , and 3 cars break done after or in practise , very boring race for the people that have paid entry to the circuit and fuel , food etc then to see to 5 cars running around , at least with a few smaller cars the spectators get to watch a race.

And yes the frailty of the F1 cars is alarming, and before anyone shoots me down I am more than aware of the complexitys of running one.

[SLK55]

Greetings everyone. I hope we can have some racing somewhere, but lets keep the slower cars out......Keep it special.

[BOSSman]

Originally Posted by SLK55

Greetings everyone. I hope we can have some racing somewhere, but lets keep the slower cars out......Keep it special.

Hello too! I also think that the BOSS race scene should be very special and therefore only for the big and powerful Big Open Single Seater cars. That's what the organisers want to have and the spectators want to see. I am definitely not a friend of ideas like 'you can fit your F3 car with bigger wheels/tyres and no air restrictor and then you have a BOSS car or other crazy ideas like that (yes, these ideas are real). Ok, I can here only speak for the BOSS GP* series, we will be there for all interested, but cars, definitely only for the real big ones!

Christian
BOSS GP*

[BOSSman]

...and before I forget! We will also not have so many classes that nearly every type of BOSS car has their own. At the end we would come in a situation (for example) with a own class for World Series by Renault, World Series by Nissan (possibly with weight rules for or against success), F3000, a class for F1 cars in original livery, etc. etc. We want also not always the same discussions after every race (as we had in EuroBOSS) why this or this not happened, why a driver is only on the 3rd position and not on 1st and so on! First of all we want to have fun and spectacular and close races and that's all for the best value for money we can offer. Go out, enjoy this weekend, enjoy your race and the fastest driver of the two classes will be the winners.

Christian
BOSS GP*

[SLK55]

Christian.

You say that 5 of 7 races are confirmed. Are you able to supply dates of the first meeting ?

Thanks

[benjabulle]

Hockenheim 16-18 april seems to be a good choice.

[BOSSman]

Originally Posted by SLK55

You say that 5 of 7 races are confirmed. Are you able to supply dates of the first meeting?

That's right, but I will publish it here first when all 7 dates are confirmed!
Why you not ask one of the (possible) drivers, because all of them have it received with our latest 'Inside' newsletter.

Christian
BOSS GP*

[Thundersports]

I don't think the smaller cars will be necessarily slower in fact they may humble a few of the F1 cars especialley in the wet. The main speed differencial will be on the straights in fact I think a well driven late F3 car will be faster in the twisty bits. Not forgetten in Boss they could take of the air restricters freeing up a fair bit more BHP.

[Thundersports]

Uk; only 3 circuits have FIA Grade 2 or higher; Silverstone, Brands and Snetterton.

[BOSSman]

Originally Posted by Thundersports

Uk; only 3 circuits have FIA Grade 2 or higher; Silverstone, Brands and Snetterton.

Snetterton is still FIA Grade 3. I've discussed it directly with the MSVR last week. Possibly we all had thought it is Grade 2 and nobody had really checked it in 2007 for the EuroBOSS race...

A 'normal' Donington circuit is also Grade 2 or higher.

Christian
BOSS GP

[Thundersports]

Christian "normal" Donington doesn't exist so you can scratch that from your list! The Snetterton race was approved by the MSA so they had no problem to have a race there? I know because I had a beer with the man who approves these things shortly before that weekend.

[ascarracinguk]

donington will be back later next year!...im confient about that!...already getin provisional dates through from august onwards including btcc british gt and britcar

[Rob29]

Anyone know where there is a list of circuits by FIA grade? I have never seen any such document.F1 has certainly raced in the past at Brands,Donington Goodwood,Oulton.Snetterton,Aintree,Crystal Palace,Mallory

[diddy100]

Re Snett - part of the planned upgrade is to take it to grade 2 status - when ever that will be completed ! Snett hosts many LPM1 cars etc testing so could MSA allow BOSS to run ?

[BOSSman]

Originally Posted by diddy100

...Snett hosts many LPM1 cars etc testing so could MSA allow BOSS to run?

Possibly! We race under FIA safety rules and that means, among other things, that we need for our races a FIA Grade 2 track. I see a discrepancy if we need FIA Grade 2 because of the regulations and MSA would possibly say ok!? Therefore my clear position and decision for the first BOSS GP season 2010, only real FIA Grade 2 circuits or better (Brands Hatch Indy/GP, Silverstone or Donington if it's ready in time)!

After I receive many questions about our race dates (the drivers already have it since mid-december) I will probably publish the confirmed events at the end of this week exclusively here at 10/10ths.

Christian
BOSS GP

[flatbroke]

Originally Posted by EuroBOSS

Possibly! We race under FIA safety rules and that means, among other things, that we need for our races a FIA Grade 2 track. I see a discrepancy if we need FIA Grade 2 because of the regulations and MSA would possibly say ok!? Therefore my clear position and decision for the first BOSS GP season 2010, only real FIA Grade 2 circuits or better (Brands Hatch Indy/GP, Silverstone or Donington if it's ready in time)!

After I receive many questions about our race dates (the drivers already have it since mid-december) I will probably publish the confirmed events at the end of this week exclusively here at 10/10ths.

Christian
BOSS GP

Do you have the medivac helicopter at your races like they have at FIA F1 races

[BOSSman]

Originally Posted by flatbroke

Do you have the medivac helicopter at your races like they have at FIA F1 races

I say it with your own words, 'like they have it at FIA F1 races'! FIA F1, GT1 and WTCC events have their own very special medical regulations. It is not for all events under FIA sporting, technical and safety regulations always necessary that a medical helicopter must be there! I give you an example.

For a race meeting with the 'BOSS GP' series you need (or better the circuit/organiser):
- a chief medical officer
- minimum of two medical intervention cars, one must be able to follow the first lap
- extrication team
- temporary medical centre or better
- minimum of two ambulance (with or without doctor)
- extra medical service for the public

Things like helicopter, doctor on foot, extra doctor/paramedic for the pitlane, specialists team for the medical centre, etc. are recommended and possible but not mandatory!

Hope I could help you with my little explanation...

Christian
BOSS GP

[Thundersports]

Originally Posted by diddy100

Re Snett - part of the planned upgrade is to take it to grade 2 status - when ever that will be completed ! Snett hosts many LPM1 cars etc testing so could MSA allow BOSS to run ?

I expect so...................

[Andrew Kitson]

Originally Posted by diddy100

Re Snett - part of the planned upgrade is to take it to grade 2 status - when ever that will be completed ! Snett hosts many LPM1 cars etc testing so could MSA allow BOSS to run ?

If it will happen re: upgrade. Snett has serious noise issue probs. No noisy testing allowed there at all at present.

[diddy100]

Originally Posted by Andrew Kitson

If it will happen re: upgrade. Snett has serious noise issue probs. No noisy testing allowed there at all at present.

Andrew - looks like the infamous Coram bund is finally being built - moving soil from the new Sear bund - the delay in this has been causing the issues - lets see if things start moving now

[Exploded]

Preliminary calendar is looking good.

17/18 April Hockenheim Historic Hockenheim GP
22/23 May RMU Classic Spa-Francorchamps
05/06 June Masters of F3 Circuit Park Zandvoort
19/20 June ADAC Eifelrace Nürburgring
17/18 July Superleague Formula Zolder
September T.B.A.
02/03 October Tropheés Historiques de Bourgogne Dijon

[Martin-GTS]

The prewiew is on net

http://www.bossgp.com/preview/

[BOSSman]

Originally Posted by Exploded

Preliminary calendar is looking good.

17/18 April Hockenheim Historic GP Hockenheim F1
(+ FIA Historic F1, FIA Lurani Trophy, HSCC Historic F2, Orwell Supersports Cup, etc.)

22/23 May RMU Classic Spa-Francorchamps
(+ FIA Historic F1, Historic GroupC, HSCC Historic F2, Orwell Supersports Cup, etc.)

05/06 June Masters of F3 Circuit Park Zandvoort
(+ Dutch Supercar Challenge, Formula BMW Europe, British Formula Ford Championship, etc.)

19/20 June ADAC Eifelrennen Nurburgring F1
(+ Historic GroupC, Orwell Supersports Cup, biggest DTM Revival ever, etc.)

17/18 July Superleague Formula Zolder
(+ Dutch Supercar Challenge, Dutch Youngtimer Cup, etc.)

August or September T.B.A.

02/03 October Tropheés Historiques de Bourgogne Dijon
(+ FIA Historic F1, HSCC Historic F2, Orwell Supersports Cup, etc.)

@ 'Exploded', I have updated your calendar, I hope you can forgive me, thx...

Yes, these are the six 100% confirmed BOSS GP 2010 race dates (plus the tba date).
I think this is one of the best calendar in BOSS racing history. For some of these race meetings we have tried for years to participate there with EB, but there was no way for different reasons. Therefore I am now really happy that the organisers give us their confidence so that we can race there with BOSS GP already in our very first season.
The planned 7th race meeting (August or September) is unfortunately still in negotiation and we will announce the date later this month.
We were very close to support the 'International GT Open' meeting at Brands Hatch GP in September, but at the beginning of this week the meeting had to be re-classed from a 'noisy' weekend to a 'quiet' weekend after (the normal) problems with the local residents. So we have to start the search again, possibly we go back to one of the six circuits which we already have in the calendar or the UK will welcome the BOSS GP cars after all... *fingers crossed*

Since Tuesday evening, February 9, 2010, 'B.O.S.S. GP' is officially registered (without any problems) as a Luxembourg race series!

The new 'BOSS GP Foundation' (with principal Henk de Boer) is officially registered since February 5, 2010, and has also begun their work.

The official BOSS GP website, www.bossgp.com, will be available from today for all interested.

More news later...

Christian
BOSS GP