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So unofficially, what's the true USA livery? Definitely Blue/White, but is it Blue with white stripes, or white with blue stripes. What scheme has been on more US race cars?
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White with Blue stripes! Don't muddle it up DK.
Honestly, I can't recall blue with white stripes on an American Team car..sure it exists. Gurney Eagle Can Am perhaps? Not sure if this car/team were the original but it is an early example. Thread about the 50th Anniversary of LM winnng Briggs/Cunningham 'vette: http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=122901 (See page 2 for pics). Unfortunately, I don't think we'll ever see this livery again, in the ALMS or at LM, unless there is a sponsor that can use those colors. Theitford and Dyson could do it (and have done it, sort of), but I don't know the sponsorship details with that team. |
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Dyson will be running a Rousch engine in GA next year, so I wonder if they would work on something with them for the ALMS? I can't really see Dyson running a p2 next year, so maybe they are working on a P1 option with Rousch.
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With Honda having already announced a P2 engine for next year and Dyson getting into some relationship with Ford/Roush, the two most important prototype teams in ALMS - Highcroft and Dyson - are just one step away from manufacturer backed P2 entries... and if those two should decide to go there, I think that IMSA would have no problem to effectively make P2 the new benchmark for their combined prototype category... |
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Murphy states ALMS might ban pit stops under safty cars, i don't know if its for next year or next race
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It's a stupid idea fullstop, if it wasn't for pit stops under caution there wouldn't be nearly as much close racing, especially in GT, often you find cars that were way behind like the BMW's today in the 2nd stop jumping upto the front of the field when all the cars come to the pits together under caution and leading to some fantastic battles.
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All WRC and S2000 engines are production based.
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The GRE (Global Race Engine), for the record, I don't believe is a stock block/production engine. It's built by Montune, which is an quasi-factory company that builds Audi and VW engines namely for the Formula Palmer Audi and the Audi powered F2 cars. I've seen photos of that engine, and it looks like a purpose built race engine.
A bit off topic, but all other 2.0 NA and turbo engines (Super 2000 touring cars, like WTCC and BTCC, and WRC engines) are stock block engines, even the 2.0 turbo AER P07 engine was based off the Rover K/N series four banger and the current AER Mazda engine is a stock block engine. |
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Isn't the GRE more of a spec sheet from which various engines can be built rather than off the shelf motor as Ford, Citroen and BMW/Mini seem to be building their own 1.6 turbos from production blocks for the WRC.
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Based on the current rule set (which is subject to change at the behest of the ever-fickle ACO) the engines are:
P1: 3400cc normally aspirated (no cyl limit listed yet) 2000cc turbocharged 3700cc turbo diesel there's no provision for production engines - you have to run them under the limits above P2 (all production based, no tie-in to GT2 homologation): 5000cc 8cyl max normally aspirated 3200cc 6cyl max turbocharged (note: it is allowed to add turbocharging to non-turbo production engines if it meets the 3200cc/6 cyl limits) -no diesel- If Honda and Roush/Ford are committing strongly to the P2 class, then it may not be a bad idea to make that the premier class of the ALMS and only include the P1's for Sebring & Petit. |
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Cetainly wouldn't really change much with no seasonal manufactuer P1 entries. I like it now with all the privateer LMP's on the same level competing for overalls. So why not just drop P1 all together because it is obvious the big teams aren't gonna race it, and then all ALMS LMP's will be ACO LMP2 compliant.
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I mean that ALMS LMP teams can all run to the ACO LMP2 spec and if the big P1 teams visit or if the American teams go to Le Mans, then they will already be in the proper class.
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Sorry, to me that implies that the ALMS teams are inferior. Which I TOTALLY disagree with!
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All LMP teams already have cars that can fit into 2011 P1, Highcroft are rumoured to be looking at an all new P1 and HPD/Roush have P1 motors in development. As I've already said with P2 meant for budget teams would it not put off some potential entrants if they were expected to go up against the likes of Highcroft. Last edited by JAG; 9 Aug 2010 at 17:58. |
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No I'm just saying that P2 seems better for the budget privateers in the ALMS so the big European giants don't blow them out of the water if they visit or if the team goes to Europe.
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