2007 Clipsal 500 - March 1st - 4th

[Kerri]

Never a truer word spoken DP, forget the rain, but you can always keep warm in your suit and undies

[dsg]

Originally Posted by peckstar

guess you too must be old men who no longer have a need for sex

No us old guys just have sex rather than looking a pretty girls and wondering what it is like.

[peckstar]

and think about pretty girls while its happening

but moving on, i was thinking

In australain we have had 4 genuine street races in recent times

3 have worked and pull big crowds, one was a dud( although only given a short chance)

3 of them occurred in the warm part of the year (ok QLD is warm all year) the other one occurred in winter

Now guess which one failed?

[D.R.T.]

For a collection of reasons, your not going to pin the failure of the event on the weather are you?

[Robert Ryan]

For a collection of reasons, your not going to pin the failure of the event on the weather are you?

It was one major reason... I was near Canberra when one of the races was on and it was freezing

[D.R.T.]

You look at many sports whose events endure the cold, rain etc.

Even Bathurst is freezing alot of the time, yet people still turn up.

The weather was a hindrance but by no means can it be blamed for an event that just didnt work.

[kmsport]

Hmm...the Clipsal was only moved "later" for 2006 to avoid the Commonwealth Games/AGP fixture. The State Government of South Australia made this public in early 2005 and also mentioned that it would return to its' standard calendar position in 2007.
No rocket science or hidden agendas.

[peckstar]

Originally Posted by D.R.T.

For a collection of reasons, your not going to pin the failure of the event on the weather are you?

got abetter one?

and the average track with minimal viewing areas

[D.R.T.]

The event just didnt work in Canberra. Not enough interest, heavily reliant on Gov $$$$ and it collasped. That is what is concerning about the current move of throwing all your eggs in the street race basket, if it falls what are we left with.

Peckstar, I dont think the track had anything to do with it.

[peckstar]

still no reason though
why didnt it work, the crowds dropped after the first year? why did they drop?

Crowds dont drop because of " too reliant on govt money"

something makes them not want to go

the racing was interesting enough

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

still no reason though
why didnt it work, the crowds dropped after the first year? why did they drop?

Crowds dont drop because of " too reliant on govt money"

something makes them not want to go

Were they ever actually there though. Remember the auditing report that I believe Uncle Cracker posted about the event. Huge discrepancies between what was announced and what actually came through the door/gates.

Originally Posted by peckstar

the racing was interesting enough

Maybe that event should have told Vesa something about the use of reverse grids.

[peckstar]

there was a crowd there( bigger than oran park) in the first year, but it reduced over the following rounds there ( still bigger than OP)

something stopped the people from going

im pushing for cold and lack of good viwing spots especially gen admin ones

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

there was a crowd there( bigger than oran park) in the first year, but it reduced over the following rounds there ( still bigger than OP)

Why was there a need for false numbers then ?

Originally Posted by peckstar

something stopped the people from going

Maybe they just werent interested ?

Originally Posted by peckstar

im pushing for cold and lack of good viwing spots especially gen admin ones

But many events succeed in cold weather. All street circuits have poor viewing.

[peckstar]

DRT, i dont know why and apprantly neither do you

the complaints at the time were the viewing was poor (especially for general admin) and it was too cold. to me they sound like reasons people wouldnt go

the auditrs report was done to justify getting rid of the event it was not done to work out how to improve it, so it is no use in helping us to work out why canberra failed

but needles to say the weather was an important part

[emjaya]

Originally Posted by peckstar

and think about pretty girls while its happening

but moving on, i was thinking

In australain we have had 4 genuine street races in recent times

3 have worked and pull big crowds, one was a dud( although only given a short chance)

3 of them occurred in the warm part of the year (ok QLD is warm all year) the other one occurred in winter

Now guess which one failed?

If by 4, you mean Melbourne, Surfers Paradise, Adelaide and Canberra, then Melbourne has the F1 as well as the V8's, Surfers Paradise has Champ Car and Adelaide was more than just V8's in the begining and still had the F1 buzz about it.And still has.

All Canberra had was the V8's as the main attraction, nothing else to convince people to fly in for the weekend.All of which the other three do or did in Adelaides case.A problem that Homebush will have too, not enough "fly in for the weekend fans".

The cold weather would not of helped, either.

I've been hot and dry and i've been cold and wet and it's hot and dry for me.Except at Indy when it's hot and dry in the morning and cold and wet t-shirt time in the afternoon.

[D.R.T.]

Originally Posted by peckstar

the complaints at the time were the viewing was poor (especially for general admin) and it was too cold. to me they sound like reasons people wouldnt go

The point still stands, people still manage to sit out in the cold for other events, but did not for the Canberra race.

Originally Posted by peckstar

the auditrs report was done to justify getting rid of the event it was not done to work out how to improve it, so it is no use in helping us to work out why canberra failed

What it does show is the total lack of credibility that the event had.