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Im working on digitising the 1990 season from old videos I have but it takes time. Im currently working on the 1989 season so patience is the watch word !
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WHat kinds of video do you have?
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Round 5- Oulton Park, 1 July 1990. 20 laps
After the transporter problems at Silverstone, Dennis Leech managed to debut his RS500. In Class B, Vauxhall fielded a second Cavalier for Chris Hodgetts- I think it was run in rwd form here- it was certainly off-the-pace. Nick Whale's Pyramid M3 returned after missing a round, as did Nettan Lindgren with no clashing Swedish race. The Bellm Sierra was absent Last edited by KA; 16 Feb 2010 at 23:14. |
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Round 6- Silverstone (GP), 15 July 1990. 15 laps Round supporting the British GP
For the first time since the Donington 1-hour race, Trakstar were back to full strength with 2 cars, Mike Smith returning with backing from Dianetics; Gravett's car carrying sponsorship from Champion Spark Plugs and Qubie Computers. Graham Hathaway was a non-starter, having missed qualifying- not sure why? In Class B, Kurt Luby took over the second Prodrive M3 again from Tim Sugden. Jimmy McRae was back in the yellow MF Industrian Ecosse M3. Vauxhall again had a second Cavalier for Hodgetts- it was more competitive here, possibly in conventional fwd form? I think Ray Armes finally had the 'proper' 2-litre engine in the PG Tags Honda- it didn't make much difference though, the Civic qualified 24th and then stopped with an oil pump failure on the first lap of the race.... The Bellm Sierra returned, but didn't qualify- more engine problems? |
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Round 7- Brands Hatch (Indy Circuit), 22 July 1990. 1 hour (73 laps)supporting? the Brands Hatch Interserie Cup
For the first (and only) time, we had a second 1-hour/2-driver race, this one at Brands, as part of the Interserie sports car meeting (unfortunately I seem to have lost the race programe for this one, so not sure if it was billed as a BTCC meeting with sportscars as part of the programme, or an Interserie meeting with BTCC supporting) Class A saw a few changes to the entry from the previous round- in particular, theres been a lot of musical chairs played with the second drivers- only a couple of pairings from the early season Donington race (Harvey/Borgudd and Walker/Flux) returning here, and a couple of absentees resulting in a slightly depleted Class A Trakstar were back to a single car, without the extra sponsors seen at the GP meeting, and Mike Smith sharing with Gravett Graham Goode also only had one car here, Mike Newman absent, and Dave Brodie sharing Goode's RS500 Dennis Leech skipped this one, to return a couple of rounds later Other co-driver changes compared to the earlier race were Gary Ayles in the Rouse/ICS Sierra, rather than David Sears, and Paul Radisich in Laurence Bristow's Labatt's car- Radisich's BTCC debut. Conversely, as one driver destined to become a well-known BTCC name made his debut, another long-standing BTCC competitor made his last appearance- Graham Hathaway's Sierra (a Trakstar entry shared with Mike Smith at Donington) was shared with Vince Woodman- Woodman's final outing in the series. Class B pairing were largely as they'd been at Donington. There were a few changes though- Kelvin Burt shared the 2nd Prodrive M3 with Tim Sugden, Kurt Luby only sharing in Sytner's car at this one.Tony Bridge co-drove the Ian Forrest Ecosse M3, while Jimmy McRae returned in the Hugh Chalmers car. It was all-change at Techspeed- Nick Baird absent, and Robin Brundle/Nigel Corry driving the 318iS here. Vauxhall had 2 Cavaliers again- Chris Hodgetts doing double-duty here, co-driving the Cleland car, and sharing the second car with Bob Berridge David Leslie was another driver with a busy weekend, co-driving both the Hall and Clark Pyramid M3s The Bellm Sierra and Mahony M3s were missing from the entry- Bellm presumably losing patience with the troublesome Sapphire, as it wouldn't be seen again for several rounds. One query about the result- I've got a note that there was a protest of some kind over the Trakstar RS500, and the Sytner/Luby M3- What was this about, and what was the outcome- one or both might have been DQd? Last edited by KA; 17 Feb 2010 at 07:55. |
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THere was a protest about oversized fuel tanks. I got the AUtosport magazine that covered the race. I need to boot up my scanner at some point soon.
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In response to an earlier question from Bigears, I have the whole 1990 season on tape from the half hour Grandstand shows. I also have the 1989, some of the 1988 and some of the 1991, Ive since found a video of the Tooheys 1000 from around that era too.
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Round 8- Snetterton, 5 August. 20 laps
A slightly reduced entry here at Snetterton. The Newman and Leech RS500s were absent again, joined by Graham Hathaway. The class did gain one car, Dave Brodie, after sharing Goode's car at Brands, returned with his own Sierra for the first time this season. In Class B, Nettan Lindgren was missing (racing in Sweden?), as was the Ray Armes PG Tags Honda. The Bellm Sapphire was absent again Vic Lee was a returnee after missing Brands, Nick Baird was back in the Techspeed 318iS, after Robin Brundle & Nigel Corry shared it at Brands. At Prodrive, Tim Sugden was in the 2nd M3, and Chris Hodgetts again drove a second Vauxhall. Ecosse Motorsport were slightly less Scottish than usual, John Llewellyn in the MF Industrial car. A win for Gravett, with Andy Rouse finishing 4 laps down, presumably after a long pitstop- I don't recall the nature of the problem though. Class B went to Cleland's Cavalier |
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Round 9- Brands Hatch GP Circuit, 23rd August. 15 laps. Race supporting the FIA International F3000 Championship
Back to Brands, this time on the full GP circuit, supporting F3000 (race won by Allan McNish I think?) Several interesting changes to the entry- In Class A, Dave Brodie's RS500 was a no-show after his Snetterton DNS, but there were a number of returning or new RS500s. Graham Hathaway was back, though an engine failure resulted in a DNS- the car wasn't seen again for the rest of the season. Mike Newman's Listerine Sierra was back- but without Mike, Andy Middlehurst standing in here. Dennis Leech also returned. The additional Sierra (an ex-Eggenberger car I think?) was entered by F3000 team Crypton Engineering for Italian Amato Ferrari. He would appear here and at Birmingham In Class B, a couple of absentees- Jerry Mahony had split with BRR Motorsport, the car would return at the end of the year with Ian Flux. Nick Baird and the Techspeed 318iS was also missing here, to return a couple of rounds later. Ray Armes returned with the Honda, but still no sign of Bellm's Sierra. A couple of driver changes- Kurt Luby took over the 2nd Prodrive M3 from Tim Sugden for the next couple of rounds, and Formula Vauxhall driver David Coulthard had a run in the 2nd Cavalier. I think the 2nd Ecosse M3 was on the entry list for Karl Jones, but I'm not 100% sure if it actually turned up- it certainly didn't qualify or race AFAIK. I also seem to be missing a couple of qualifying times from my notes Another win from pole position for Gravett- Cleland took Class B again Last edited by KA; 21 Feb 2010 at 15:21. |
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Thanks for the result update- I wasn't going to post the Birmingham result until I'd had another look at your Excel file, as I knew my version had quite a few gaps. Mahony was a non-starter at Birmingham, but I don't know exactly when he split with the team- IIRC, he didn't drive for them again, and Ian Flux was in the car for the last two rounds, Thruxton and Silverstone |
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Quote from the 1989 BTCC threat/Autosport news:9 February 1989
John Llewellyn will be racing the BMW M3 Frank Sytner secured his 1988 title with at the Silverstone finals. The car is to be prepared by Roy Kennedy of Burke Ratcliffe Motorsport and run under the Ronic Sport banner. Sponsor will be Johnstons of Chichester. Don't ecxatly explain what BRR stands for Jesper |
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The Autosport results table says EW for Graham Hathaway and Ray Bellm, but don't know if that is meant to be they showed up for the race only to pack up before running a lap, or, as I it usually means, they didn't show up at all. Chris Hodgetts reports that it's the first time the second Cavalier has been in fwd mode. In the news section it's reported Amato Ferrari will race an ex-Eggenberger Crypton Engineering RS500 at Brands Hatch and Birmingham in August. Dave Brodie is reported to codrive Graham Hathaways RS500 for the 2-driver Brands Hatch race, and that for round 7 at Snetterton he will drive a brand new car! Jesper |
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Somehow the van Kouwen/Whale BMW in 13th is credited with 67 laps in the Autosport results - one more lap than the car in front!? Dave Brodie ended up codriving with Graham Goode (to have a look at the opposition?) rather than Graham Hathaway, as mentioned a little earlier. Regular Goode driver Mike Newman in France on holliday. Good question weather the BTCC supported the Interserie race. The prestige of the BTCC by this point would suggest that it was rather more the Interseries that supported the BTCC. As a note David Piper was recorded for the fastest race lap during their two races in his Spice-Cosworth: 41.88 Then found this: http://www.racingsportscars.com/cove...1990-07-22.jpg Jesper |
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Ford Credit announced as sponsor for Robb Gravett for the rest of the season. Gravett and Rouse had a few clashes on the opening lap, jamming a wheel in the arch of the Rouse car that made him spin at Russell. Gravett and Sytner made contact with the stationary Sierra and Rouse pitted for repairs. I owe you, KA, for posting the 1990 results as I'm a little knackered over posting and updating these BTCC pages. But then again, it started about 3 month ago! Not that I have any regrets as my learning of the years covered has grown immensely. Thank you all for your contributions. Jesper |
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The Autosport report repeats that the Amato car is ex-Eggenberger, but adding that Ruedi himself was present at Brands Hatch overseing the effort! Amato had not raced in 4 month and only drove the RS500 on Friday before the race. Mike Newman was apparently on the sick list - a chest infection caught on his resent holliday! - explaining why a substitute was found in Andy Middlehurst. It further goes that Andy had been in contact with Goode for some time regarding a one-off go at the BTCC as preparation for a possible 1991 season. ..and that Middlehurst and Amato had contact on the opening lap sending the Italian off the track. Jerry Mahony and BRR has split but its not explained over what. The Arquati sponsorship appeared on the Jeff Allam car instead. The expected Karl Jones return went south with an engine failure during Friday practice. The Rouse 2-litre Sierra about to make its return, which likely will happen in Birmingham. Jesper Last edited by chunterer; 22 Feb 2010 at 15:54. |
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Eggenberger was indeed still heavily involved from a engineering/set up perspective. I'm guessing that this was because Eggenberger had prior knowledge of both Brands and Birmingham layouts from Soper's forays in 1988? I don't know whether the car was bought from Ruedi or simply leased for a few races. Did the car race in the Italian series as well though? Anyone got any more info on this? |
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