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I wonder what this means to the idea of having a GT World Championship then.
*** Sheesh, I've only started watching GT racing recently and learn its even crazier than touring cars politics wise. Maybe not as F1, but I guess I'll get used to having more than one body other than FIA. It's not like we'll wake up tomorrow and learn the SRO and ACO have merged. |
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You set the rules, then everyone must obey to them. If you do the opposite, by waiving something once, you'll have to give additional waivers in the future Think in the mess that the WTCC got into in the last few years! That's why I don't believe in the BoP BS that the SRO are making in the GT WC. |
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Well the guys at Matech said that they wont make another car to conform to the GT2 rules: http://endurance-info.com/version2/a...ance-4618.html
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According to Martin Bartek of Matech they will be build a GT2 version of the Ford GT. See http://www.endurance-info.com/versio...ance-4618.html
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The Nissan GTR V8 engine was in order to save money and get it compatitive against the old and new GT1 (differs what?... a second or 2) A V6 race engine needed more costs as they have raced the V8 race engine for years in the SuperGT. ACO and SRO wanted costs saving new GT1, they got that in the GTR with a ready made V8 race engine instead of a new to be produced V6 race engine. They would need a V6 engine anyway after this or next year. But with the grandfathered old GT1 I can't blame Nismo for getting a V8 in the car with more grunt for the time being with the quicker oldies. |
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One GT class is the right decision.
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Thanks. Personally, I would have liked to see those new GT1 cars come over to GT2, but that's just me.
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I'll tell you what I wish...
Part of what I love about the GT1 cars is the more aggressive look. I would love for the GT2 wings to be a bit bigger, and the cars allowed a bit more aero or larger tires perhaps. To me, the GT1 Ford looks WAY better and much more purposeful and beautiful than the Doran GT2 car or even Matech's own GT3 car. Though, as a general rule, I usually like the GT3 aero packages.
Part of what gets me is that I really wish there was a place for the true Supercars to race... I would love to see a grid where you could find the likes of the Koenigsegg, Ferrari Enzo/FXX/etc, Zonda R, and other track supercars. Cars like these combine the best of the GTs and the LMPs (in my opinion)... I only wish there was a place they could all race together other than on my Xbox360... pit |
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To be honest, after having them let in now I can't see the point in already announcing they're out for 2011. Why not see how they do in the race first?
But in principle it's probably the right decision, especially if it's going to be possible to run the cars in the single GT class (with proper adjustments - they might not even have to conform to GT2 rules, just be slow enough) |
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This sbhould have happened a year ago. GT1 would have gone out with a bang rather than limping on for a year like it is.
That said, I will be glad to see a Ford GT race at Le Mans once |
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GT1 manufacturers would like to be direct rivals to GT2 entries. This is the right choice: drop one class, accept or transform the killed one into the surviving one.
Le Mans needs grand tourers with brutal, mean, outrageous aero kits. GT2 rules could be tweaked to allow this. |
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They're old cars, built to old regs, which have already been adapted once to new rules. I can't imagine the ACO accepting a request to adapt them even further- you'd probably stand more chance of getting a Dauer 962 in.... I don't like the idea of waivers much either, but I can't help wondering if the ACO think that allowing Nissan to run a modified version of the GT1 Skyline- even as a temporary measure until a proper GT2 car is available- might be politically expedient to get another manufacturer into GT2 |
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You are missing the point. The GT1 world championship was created to be just that. A GT1 world championship. Le Mans isn't part of that. Bartels happily raced in gt1 for ages with no shot at Le Mans and that didn't seem to bother him. On a separate note I can't believe that some people prefer Gt2 cars to 6 litre v12 GT1. I will really miss these cars next year...
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It might do both parties good. The SRO is free of worrying about fitting into Le Mans and can focus working on their formula, while the ACO can still work on mantaining Le Mans to a high standard. Look at it like this; A sprint series, and an endurance series. I see nothing wrong with them co-existing while doing their own thing. No need to compare, or compete. |
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Sounds like a good move to me. Now if they open the LMGT AM for GT3 cars they will be money. Hopefully the ALMS will follow suit and drop the lame GTC category. I wonder if GT AM cars will basically be GT2 cars with AM drivers, or if they will be homoligated cars with development freeze (aka GT3).
Sounds like it will all be current GT2 cars, with the Pros having the latest spec and Ams getting last years spec. IMO, GT2 needs sped up alittle, carbon brakes, that'll be a good 'LMGT Pro' class. GT AM should be the current GT3 structure, but ACO still wants to keep it all Am drivers rather than Pro-Am, which is a good choice IMO, saves money on a Pro drivers check aswell as further splits the classes. Wonder if they'll do something similar with the new LMP's? I'd be for that. |
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