March 792

[driftwood]

Dan i recall some mumblings over the cars hence my new thread posting
maybe that nice Mr Turner may drop in any other threads related or the items we discussed from other threads on the moot point
all i know is the car advretised should not have the march chassis plate
fitted

[driftwood]

forgot to post the car in usa now sold had this plate ftted 792/8

who ran chassis 8 in period? any more info?

[allenbrown]

Can we move this into the March 792 thread?

[John Turner]

Yes, done!

[dfr]

Hi all,
Can somebody put some detail pictures of a 792 chassis ?
We have a 782 and we are interested to buy a 792.

Thanks,

Fabian

[allenbrown]

Which 782 do you own?

[allenbrown]

Sorry - ignore my question - I forgot we've talked about your 782-12 before.

[Steve Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

Two unknowns:

1988 - Adrian Moores runs a 792 with a 3.9 Buick V8
1989 - Tony Marsh uses a 792 as the basis for his Rovercraft which eventually is written off.

The Adrian Moores 792 has now been identified as 792-12, so we are just left with the Rovercraft. I have asked someone to quiz Tony about the source of the chassis as this is the only "792" in the British Sprint Championship that remains unidentified.

[driftwood]

I found my plate foto for the dismantled Japanese 792 i was offered 8 years ago
tis 792-14

[Chris Townsend]

Interesting
792-12 not known in 1979 or indeed before Moores. Who did he get it from?
Being used in UK suggests from a UK team originally which might make it the second Salisbury car.
792-14 not known at all. Drifty had it always been in Japan? Was it perhaps Nakajima's car or the Le Mans Co car used by Rosberg? [Sorry too tired to go back over the thread to find out if we've discussed its provenance...]

Chris

[driftwood]

no idea on who had it but i suspect it was UK to Japan only car
will look in my books later for more info

[kurtiejjj]

Originally Posted by Steve Wilkinson

The Adrian Moores 792 has now been identified as 792-12.

He crashed that car quite heavily at the brighton speed trials in 1989.

[driftwood]

here is a list of 792 cars and comments taken from SSVR book and some AS reports for extra comments

March 792 cars
1
2 March Gabbiani
3 Divina Galicia
4
5 BFO Locher & Lopez
6 San Remo Bakst
7 Minardi Guerra
8 Minardi Ponti
9 Minardi/Trivellato Brancatelli
10
11 Theodore Warwick
12
13
14 Japan
15 Project 4 Rosberg & Daly
16 Project 4 South raced by Rosberg in japan final round
17 March Fabi
18 March Surer
19 March Travers advertised for sale By Henton
20 Norman Dickson raced in Auroroa winng F2 class
21 Team Tiga Elgh
22
23
24
25
26
27
28
29 March Zunino
30 Theodore Warwick`s 2 nd car
31 John Cooper
Hottinger has a car run by Salisbury
Chevailly has a carany idea which car?
EEC 18-20 cars raced

Japan 3 then 5 cars most of the year 8 cars after Euro series last round total 27 maybe 2-4 cars race in GC as MC1
Harada Racing 2 cars for Nakajima and Takahara 1 is poss chassis 14?
Heroes Hoshino but uses Nova as well in some races
Phoenix Racing Needell and this car later races as
Racing Mati Feroca by Daly then 2 cars 2nd last round Nov Gabbiani has huge shunt car written off? Rosberg #16
Tomy Racing Hasemi mid season
Matsumoto
Speedstar racing Cheever last roundex keke/Daly#15 ICI car
Euro season finishes 19 august japan has 2 more rounds 23/9 -4/11 so plenty of time for some euro team cars to go to Japan for the last 2 races

In Autosport Theodore have 2 cars for sale in Atlantic trim available AFTER Macau 18 Nov
At Macau 4 x 792 cars entered in FA spec 2 for Marlboro Team Harper Patrese & Daly 2 for Theodore keegan & Schuppan

[Chris Townsend]

16 also to Japan end of season [Cheever uses ex Daly 792 in JAF GP according to AS]
23 Patrese's car at Macau, destroyed by de Cesaris in NZ series [chassis number and Macau ref in NZMN]
32 Daly's car at Macau, Thackwell in NZ series, sold to Ken Smith
19 plate on de Cesaris's other car in NZ series, though whether it was the Traverso car underneath is another matter... also sold to Ken Smith

Chris

[driftwood]

It was late when i finished list/reading AS reports /looking for ads of "cars 4 sale" and i didnt make the fact clear on chassis 16 as u pointed out

Rosberg shared chassis 15 car with Daly ( keke in F1 by then) but in JAF2 keke races chassis 16 which was Souths euro F2 chassis
Cheever races Chassis 15 car in JAF2 both cars Project 4 ICI cars but in Japan with 2 different teams

you state chassis 23 in Macau for Patrese where do you get that from? its not down as a euro F2 car
I commented that Henton was advertising chassis 19 for sale ( i took this to be form the foto in the advert with car race number 5 ) but I re read the tread after posting and noted your having the chassis 5 car BFO on your list as Henton car
The good Mr Brown also list JAF2 entrants with different names to the SS & VR book
FYI there are generally only 5 or 6 teams or "maintainence " garages in Japan
so you will find many different " Race teams" but in essence they will hire the garage /team to prep the cars
The main teams are
1 Le man Co ( the main car importer March Ralt later Reynard
2 Heros/Hosihino racing
3 Harada later enters under adifferent name
4 Nova Engineering ( later become Lola & G force agents) running Tomy Racing
5 Team Italya i think is Tetsu Ikazawa team ( sometimes Tetsu Racing)
then you have smaller teams like Matusmoto & Speedstar
Phoenix change name later to Mati Feroca but they are entrant in name only due to sponsors ie like Walter Wolf Racing as Allen earlier states entered Rosberg

[allenbrown]

Who are you and what have you done with Drifty?

[allenbrown]

And what's 'the SSVR book'?

[driftwood]

single seater and voiturette racing DOH! or do u prefer use F1R !!!

[driftwood]

I also think the 792 was dressed in Can am body for the Grand champion series and entered as MC - I will check with my man in Tokyo
in 1979 there where 4 GC cars & 3-5 792 in F2 plus the 3 euro cars that come for last round racing in 1980 there where 8 and 5 792 in F2

[allenbrown]

Never heard it called that before. It's GP&VR on my set. OK, now I know what you're talking about. F1R or 'black books' are other terms people use.

[driftwood]

Yes, you're right; Ive just looked at the front cover (something I don't need normally to do! )

Chris
I was looking at the 1979/1980 AS reports for the NZ series and De Crasharis did not write off his car. He did bang it 3 times but the car was fixed and no mention of the car being written was made and he won the last 2 rounds. Thackwell drove the other Marlboro car but not with good results. The cars where considered too heavy in FA trim which I concur with.
1600 bda - 215-200 bhp Versus BMW/Hart 290-305 bhp

Looking through the old AS ads, I found Theodore cars, Cooper and Henton advertising their cars

Do you guys take photos of the cars when you are noting the chassis numbers?

[Chris Townsend]

Drifty

de Crasheris didn't even get to use it in the races. He destroyed it in practice for the first round. Report in New Zealand Motoring News, with chassis numbers, courtesy of David McKinney.

Chris

[allenbrown]

792-20

Over on TNF, Clyde Peffar has said that the ex-Dickson 792 was broken up with the engine, gearbox and all the running gear being used by John Maguire to build up a spaceframe Lotus Esprit for John Bothamley. The 792 tub and bodywork went to Norrie Galbraith who then owned a 782 with 79B nose and sidepods. Galbraith was killed in September 1982 so this must have been before then.

More to follow on Galbraith's 782 and 792 bits but I will hold off saying more until I've got the whole story straight.

[driftwood]

Hmm Allen this may tie in with the "other" march car we have discussed is Jim stevenson in the ownership chain?
the 2 maguire esprit cars where built around the same time in 1982
1 car was with hart 420r the other 1500 bda ft200 and march 74B/2 corners

[Dan Rear]

DW, Jim Stevenson had the ex-South/Russell 782. After him, don't know, was it "GT-ised"