CTCRC Snetterton 200 8th April

[Andrew Kitson]

The photo posted above is the only one I have of the incident. I have just two more...of the aftermath. The orange Escort was stranded in that position for a couple of laps, then the driver got the engine started again and rejoined the race.

[medius]

Looks to me like it was a racing incident, 4 into 1 doesn't go no matter what the machinery.

[Robert Morris]

Originally Posted by medius

Looks to me like it was a racing incident, 4 into 1 doesn't go no matter what the machinery.

simple maths.

[joss Ronchetti]

The Skylines/Escorts accident officially was purely a racing incident, and no action of any type has been taken because of this, and in their eyes the incident is now closed
Unfourtunately to make it worse all 4 cars damaged were new to the Championship and we hope they will return as this is a very rare occurrance within the CTCRC who strictly police driving standards through both drivers & officials alike.
Without criticising anyone in any way, a few lessons have been learned, and there will be some changes for the next round, as this incident should /could have been avoided.
It is a reminder that in our level of motorsport it is worth loosing some time/a place to avoided a possible incident, it just is not worth it, you are not fighting for a works drive and to always try to be aware what is going on in all your mirrors, while driving the A** off your own car having your own race.
In Classic Thunder we are proud of our close, hard racing with very few incidents, and I believe it takes far more talented drivers to slide side by side without bouncing off each other in an attempt to stay on the circuit while entering a corner far too fast.
I look forward to the next race @ Silverstone on the 5th/6th May with a grid of fatastic cars and drivers

[White flag man]

Joss,
is this the end of the Lotus Bullet?

[joss Ronchetti]

Originally Posted by White flag man

Joss,
is this the end of the Lotus Bullet?

No 1st outing with The Bullet @ the SRGT's Cadwell, May 25th/26th, also doing their June 4/5th Brands 2 driver race, with Craig Davies & the September Donington 2 Driver Race with Jules Westwood & their other Donington single driver round in late June.
Also hope to do the double header CSCC 'Thunder Salooon/ Sports/ Specials' Revival races at Coombe, Mallory and Donington and go to the 6 Hour meeting at Spa to do Barrys 1 hour 2 driver race with Craig Davis partnering me as I am in his Vette again in the 6 Hr race

[gt917]

Well said Joss, and as usual, good in-car footage.

[White flag man]

Originally Posted by joss Ronchetti

No 1st outing with The Bullet @ the SRGT's Cadwell, May 25th/26th, also doing their June 4/5th Brands 2 driver race, with Craig Davies & the September Donington 2 Driver Race with Jules Westwood & their other Donington single driver round in late June.
Also hope to do the double header CSCC 'Thunder Salooon/ Sports/ Specials' Revival races at Coombe, Mallory and Donington and go to the 6 Hour meeting at Spa to do Barrys 1 hour 2 driver race with Craig Davis partnering me as I am in his Vette again in the 6 Hr race

Pleased to hear it, though the new car looks awesome. Well done on the win, you have to be in it to win it!

[Minicross424]

Originally Posted by joss Ronchetti

The Skylines/Escorts accident officially was purely a racing incident, and no action of any type has been taken because of this, and in their eyes the incident is now closed
Unfourtunately to make it worse all 4 cars damaged were new to the Championship and we hope they will return as this is a very rare occurrance within the CTCRC who strictly police driving standards through both drivers & officials alike.
Without criticising anyone in any way, a few lessons have been learned, and there will be some changes for the next round, as this incident should /could have been avoided.
It is a reminder that in our level of motorsport it is worth loosing some time/a place to avoided a possible incident, it just is not worth it, you are not fighting for a works drive and to always try to be aware what is going on in all your mirrors, while driving the A** off your own car having your own race.
In Classic Thunder we are proud of our close, hard racing with very few incidents, and I believe it takes far more talented drivers to slide side by side without bouncing off each other in an attempt to stay on the circuit while entering a corner far too fast.
I look forward to the next race @ Silverstone on the 5th/6th May with a grid of fatastic cars and drivers

Well said Joss.
Lets hope everyone involved takes notice.

[Bob Gray]

Originally Posted by joss Ronchetti

this incident should /could have been avoided.It is a reminder that in our level of motorsport it is worth loosing some time/a place to avoided a possible incident, it just is not worth it

. My point exactly!

Originally Posted by joss Ronchetti

always try to be aware what is going on in all your mirrors, while driving the A** off your own car having your own race

. Who wants to drive looking in the mirrors for poorly guided low flying missiles for most of the race?

Originally Posted by joss Ronchetti

I believe it takes far more talented drivers to slide side by side without bouncing off each other in an attempt to stay on the circuit while entering a corner far too fast

So you agree that the skyline drivers involved aren't very talented?

[Al Weyman]

They looked pretty talented to me watching from the end of Coram! But what do I know?

[joss Ronchetti]

I am not arguing on any point or giving my opinion of any drivers talent.
We ALL make mistakes, or slight errors at times and get away wth it most of the time.
Obviously some slight miscalualtios/errors of judgement were made by A or Some Drivers as the cars ended in a collision course, and led to this unfourtunate incident rather than another safe pass.
It was not deliberate contact by any party in any way, shape or form, or was it a regularly occurring type of incident by the drivers involved.
I think I can safely say my opinion of the matter is shared by the rest of the Unofficials involved (The Drivers) in CT too, so case closed as far as we are concerned.

S**t happens in this sport,it can cost you dearly, as I learnt last year at Mallory, There was no intention there by either party, we shook hands(by e mail in reality) and we get on with life and racing, both a bit wiser.
Life is far too short to have unecessary animosity, and I come racing to have a smile and unwind, Happy Easter Everybody

[bdwoody]

Originally Posted by joss Ronchetti

I am not arguing on any point or giving my opinion of any drivers talent.
We ALL make mistakes, or slight errors at times and get away wth it most of the time.
Obviously some slight miscalualtios/errors of judgement were made by A or Some Drivers as the cars ended in a collision course, and led to this unfourtunate incident rather than another safe pass.
It was not deliberate contact by any party in any way, shape or form, or was it a regularly occurring type of incident by the drivers involved.
I think I can safely say my opinion of the matter is shared by the rest of the Unofficials involved (The Drivers) in CT too, so case closed as far as we are concerned.

S**t happens in this sport,it can cost you dearly, as I learnt last year at Mallory, There was no intention there by either party, we shook hands(by e mail in reality) and we get on with life and racing, both a bit wiser.
Life is far too short to have unecessary animosity, and I come racing to have a smile and unwind, Happy Easter Everybody

well said that man . have another egg. he he

[RKTuning]

Originally Posted by Bob Gray

They obviously ran out of it

Darren Bly has raced his skyline for many years with many wins and a championship.
he has overtaken many hundreds of cars at the speeds that the escorts were going so you dont do that without some talent!!
sometimes you run out of luck and we all need some of that in racing.
i think a bit of video evidence from both party might help as i have seen it from both parties.
but make your own mind up as you already have.

[joss Ronchetti]

Having learnt another lesson very important lesson on this very Forum a couple of years ago on here!!!
Therefore I would please ask any CT members not to be drawn in any way to comment/defend etc any other members behaviour on or off the track.
Any concerns should be raised with any of the CTCRC's commitee members, such as Andy Johnson, Peter Edwards, Steve Cripps etc or the CT co-ordinator, Dennis Bassom.
The concerns will be addressed by the commitee, in consoltation and agreement of the drivers, in a fair transparent way.
Any members not wanting to deal with the commitee direct, think there concerns are not being addressed fairly or wanting to remain anonymous contact me any time.
I have no poliical agenda in any way, but I will do my utmost and put myself right out to ensure that fairness and a happy Paddock is the normin the CTCRC

[Clive Brown]

Originally Posted by RKTuning

he has overtaken many hundreds of cars at the speeds that the escorts were going so you dont do that without some talent!!

I thought what you needed was a car that is much faster in a straight line....

[joss Ronchetti]

In reliteration of the above:

Officials, Club & Drivers are satisfied the matter is closed.

And for those with that urge to be drawn in, just remember the most important thing of all:

That is what possible tincey, wincey, tiny bit of difference does another persons opinion, outside the above paremeters, matter one iota ?

[Tim Falce]

Mod Note
It serves no good purpose to any series to come on here and try and stir trouble for it. Each race meeting has a CoC and stewards to apportion blame if It's due and each race series will have a committee to police driving standards, let them do their jobs and if you are involved in said series or race you know the correct channels to take, here is not the best place to embroil a series in controversy.

Normal rules will apply on here and that includes trolling and attacking other users so try and keep your posts reasonable and on the subject at hand. As has been said the incident was declared a racing one and no further action taken please leave it at that.

[Mike Sheraton]

as has been said before, it serves no good to any party to be arguing over a forum in the public eye, such matters should be dealt with between the members involved and the club.

[Tim Falce]

As a few of you still want to talk about speed differentials I've moved the last few posts to a dedicated thread here.
Keep this thread for talk about this meeting.

[medius]

Back to topic, what were the grid numbers like?

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by medius

Back to topic, what were the grid numbers like?

The results are all here so you can see for yourself.

[Mike Sheraton]

I think that the grid numbers will improve substantially for Silverstone onwards, as we had many people who were either not ready, didnt want to do single header, or busy due to it being easter....
So I think we can expect some exciting grids in the very near future and roll on Silverstone!!

[ClarkyPics]

Hi Everyone ,

Just thought you might like to see some pics from Sunday!!

http://flickr.com/photos/clarkypics/

Regards

Matt Clark

[JBarrettCommentator]

I should have some videos put together by the end of the week
http://www.youtube.com/user/JBarrett...t?feature=mhee
I will try to post up the links here when they are on youtube