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Nico Rosberg | 3 | 3.57% | |
Mark Webber | 32 | 38.10% | |
Fernando Alonso | 5 | 5.95% | |
Lewis Hamilton | 27 | 32.14% | |
Kimi Raikkonen | 2 | 2.38% | |
Felipe Massa | 6 | 7.14% | |
Adrian Sutil | 1 | 1.19% | |
Daniel Ricciardo | 5 | 5.95% | |
Paul Di Resta | 1 | 1.19% | |
Nico Hulkenberg | 0 | 0% | |
Pastor Maldonado | 0 | 0% | |
Valteri Bottas | 0 | 0% | |
Jenson Button | 0 | 0% | |
Esteban Gutierrez | 0 | 0% | |
Charles Pic | 0 | 0% | |
Jules Bianchi | 0 | 0% | |
Max Chilton | 1 | 1.19% | |
Giedo van der Garde | 0 | 0% | |
Romain Grosjean | 0 | 0% | |
Other | 1 | 1.19% | |
Michael | 0 | 0% | |
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1 Jul 2013, 22:58 (Ref:3272677) | #26 | ||
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I was interested in seeing this one, wasn't sure who others would vote for because Hamilton's drive was similar to Vettel's at Brazil last year where lots of people refused to admit it was a good drive because two safety cars helped him.
Well, Hamilton was the same, he wouldn't have made the top 10 without 2 safety cars, Webber wouldn't have made as much progress either. But I'll give it to him anyway for doing an entire lap with 3 tyres and not dropping a lap down, then for his charge at the end on old tyres while everyone else ahead of him had changed to new ones. I'm pretty sure he was one of the ones that didn't pit at the last safety car. And then he was catching Alonso at the end, that's some real car speed! Webber as well did good, regardless of his start, he came from 15th to 2nd and Vettel showed the RB wasn't a dominant car during race. Good enough to leave, of course, but not really pull away. Alonso I think was very, very lucky. That last pit stop they were making regardless of SC, and I'm assuming everyone else wasn't planning on coming in again so it was only going to be him. Maybe Grosjean would have. We know at least those that didn't pit under SC weren't planning on it, so he never would have caught Kimi, Sutil, etc again. He'd have been lucky to get even in the points after that, maybe he would have charged back to 7th or 8th on fresh tyres. But the SC basically gave him that pit stop for free, and the others that followed him in. He also had a lot of others (Seb, Lewis, Grojean, Perez, Massa, even Webber) all have problems so he didn't have to pass them, though some of them he would have passed and Massa would have got the order. Having said that, I think some of his passes were fantastic and the best of the race. Sutil was deserving of 3rd best, and Ricciardo 4th best. Shame they didn't get the results they earned. |
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1 Jul 2013, 23:01 (Ref:3272678) | #27 | ||
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I didn't think Massa had a damaged car and I still think he did the best job on Sunday. The pace of the Ferraris in weeks past is irrelevant, the Mercedes and Red Bull looked clearly faster yesterday. |
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1 Jul 2013, 23:24 (Ref:3272684) | #28 | ||
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We really don't have to have this "oh, well, I am not voting for 'x' driver because 'y' driver didn't get a vote from some forummers for doing a similar thing last year", especially when 'y' driver actually got several votes. Vote by your own criteria and sod what anyone else thinks, frankly. Last edited by Knowlesy; 1 Jul 2013 at 23:29. |
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1 Jul 2013, 23:25 (Ref:3272685) | #29 | |
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Hamilton took tires later than everyone before the safety car came out. He was already inside the top 10 before he pit. He also didn't take new tires during the safety car.
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1 Jul 2013, 23:51 (Ref:3272693) | #30 | ||
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Hard to pick from a few worthy contenders on this one - specifically between Aonso, Hammy & Webber.
Have gone with Webber this time - take the point of those critical of the start but from his comments sounds more like a software thing than an "own goal" on the driver's part. |
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2 Jul 2013, 00:33 (Ref:3272703) | #31 | ||
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Alonso, Ham and Web
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2 Jul 2013, 03:16 (Ref:3272725) | #32 | |
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gave Hamilton the vote as he accomplished the most after the blowout. Though Webber did well also, his poor start put him in the middle of the field.
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2 Jul 2013, 03:25 (Ref:3272727) | #33 | ||
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Webber does not deserve so many votes. You guys didn't see the start of the race?
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2 Jul 2013, 05:14 (Ref:3272743) | #34 | ||
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I didn't actually.
But I saw the end. That was good enough for me - anyhow, it's my choice. |
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2 Jul 2013, 06:42 (Ref:3272751) | #35 | ||
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No Vettel in the list aye? I call for a disqualification of all other drivers from the DOTR list :P
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2 Jul 2013, 07:45 (Ref:3272761) | #36 | ||
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Had to give Webber the nod, gutsy drive especially the last few laps.
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2 Jul 2013, 07:47 (Ref:3272762) | #37 | ||
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Had to give my vote to mark, a great drive after a poor start
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2 Jul 2013, 08:30 (Ref:3272784) | #38 | ||
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I suspect that most of us (note I only say 'suspect', no accusations are being made) find a reason to vote for our favourite driver regardless of merit. I can usually find sufficient evidence to vote for Felipe Massa, not one of the most popular of drivers, judging from comments on various forums, however, Webber and Hamilton are both very popular with 'fans', which 'probably' explains why they are currently leading the points table here.
But then again I am probably just a cynic. |
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2 Jul 2013, 08:44 (Ref:3272792) | #39 | |
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Webber was on new medium tires along with Alonso at the ending stages of the race. Hamilton was on older hard tires and made it to 4th after getting sent to the rear. Thats why Webber doesnt get my vote. He should have had the fastest car out there and had mediums but Nico was able to keep his lead on the hard tires. Imo Rosberg drove the 2nd best race, Webber was 3rd.
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2 Jul 2013, 17:34 (Ref:3272982) | #40 | ||
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Close between Lewis and Mark....I'd be happy with either winning (the race and the poll ) but gave it to Hamilton as I feel his fight back from a blowout deserves more recognition than Webber's admittedly thrilling last laps charge.
Honourable mention to Di Resta for some spirited (and fair) driving....though it has to be said that many others down the field drove well! |
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Which was followed by an overtaking move. Of course there wasn't any outrage because it wasn't Seb or Alonso who was the beneficiary of the team orders... |
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2 Jul 2013, 19:35 (Ref:3273050) | #45 | ||
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Why not ? He had a bad start but he made a great race all the way to 2nd place, isn't that good enough ? I'm not his fan, or of any other driver, apart for being excited with the likes of Kimi and Hamilton style of racing. So, Mark did a great race in my view, and he deserves all the votes he can get.
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3 Jul 2013, 01:48 (Ref:3273174) | #48 | ||
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Can't decide. Lulu, for coming from all that way back after the exploding tyre or Alonso because of that charge for the Podium?
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Seeing that Webber has received the most votes...and this race was clouded by tire issues....how come no one (including Mark) griped about Grosjean crashing into him??
I haven't researched it too deeply, but just going by the onboard cam during race replays it appeared Grosjean simply fired to the left without looking and taking out Webber's front wing end plate and forcing him off the track. It didn't appear that Grosjean was avoiding contact with another driver. If someone can say otherwise then make yourself heard. Anyway, I am sure the team saw what happened and just ordered Grosjean to move over for Kimi and let him through because indeed he was faster. A little off topic, but Crashjean was not DOTR. Funny how Coulthard is always riding guy this on the air. |
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Plonka of the Race?
I have postulated in an earlier post that many of us vote with out heart rather than our head, and in the case of the, 'gritty, straight talking put-upon, de facto no2, adopted Brit' Mark Webber, I believe we have some evidence to suggest this is so. Webber started 4th on the grid, two of the people ahead of him had troubles not of their own making, so MW finished behind Rosberg, which is where he started. So far so good? It is reasonable to say that Hamilton could have won if he had not had a tyre blow, also Vettel would probably have won but for his gearbox failure. Lewis and Seb we could say were robbed of victory, Nico inherited the victory, and the rest of the field were never truly in contention for victory, but Webber? Well given the narrow margin at the finish, and the pace of the Red Bull, it seems certain that the Ozzie should have won if he had not cocked up the start, a not unknown event for our 'hero'. Webber was the ONLY driver to have 'lost' the race by his own efforts, to name him 'Driver of the Race' is to this poster, quite simply perverse, bizarre, and a perfect case of blinkers -on voting. |
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