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Holden/Ford only- changes to event structures/points etc, as happens now. | 6 | 18.75% | |
Holden/Ford/Mitsubishi/Toyota with "evoltionary"refinements to maintain parity | 12 | 37.50% | |
Above 4 makes plus European makes ie. BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Opel | 9 | 28.13% | |
Something else entirely- describe! | 5 | 15.63% | |
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8 May 2003, 05:20 (Ref:593086) | #26 | ||
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I'm keen to see other manufactures join in the Supercar fun. As long as the parity was kept in order, I don't think it would be a problem. The only hurdle I feel is that Toyota or Mitsubishi don't sell rear-wheel drive, 5-litre cars off the shelf, which is mandatory to enter the class. Once they do this though, I've got no probs seeing them on the grid. Plus, Toyo's and Mitsu's are both recognised in lots of different parts of the world, giving the Supercars an even bigger market to sell to.
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9 May 2003, 00:46 (Ref:594105) | #27 | ||
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I'd personally like to go down a more production route, with the cars base minimum weight worked of the cars capacity. Ie: 5 litre - 1350kg, 3 litre - 1100kg or something of that nature. I see no problem with non V8 motors. Maintain revv limiters to 8000rpm. Maintain limits on gears and other part types, brake materials etc.
But mostly, get in Mitsubishi, Toyota. The reason is they're nearly as Australian as Ford and GMH. They develop a local product, build it here... American or Japanese ownership, who cares. So long as the product is locally manufactured it should be eligible. That promotes investment into the country by giving exposure to the companies that do. It'd be nice if Nissan came back here and produced the Skyline/Stagea line here. Oh, and the reason why OHC is actually useful is valvetrain mass between cam lobe and valve tip. However, I think it adds to overall mass in V motors. I'm a fan of the DOHC straight 4/5/6 myself. Cheap, simple, effective, easy to package forced induction with... good motors. Comparitively tall, but effective. In the end though, GTP remains my preffered class. |
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9 May 2003, 09:19 (Ref:594292) | #29 | |
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and the Ford is powered by a 5lt engine while the road car is 5.4lt.
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12 May 2003, 15:10 (Ref:597010) | #30 | ||
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Why don't Toyota run under Lexus becuse doesn't Toyota own Lexus. They are doing the same in the USA trying to get into Nascar but are having to race one full season or make a long time comitment to the Craftsman truck series just to get into Nascar. Off track just bit. Thats what Toyoata should do because Lexus run V8 engines and they are Rear Wheel Drive
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12 May 2003, 22:36 (Ref:597456) | #31 | |
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Yes, but not in Avalons/Camrys
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13 May 2003, 07:29 (Ref:597638) | #32 | ||
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Seeing as the general concensus from AVESCO lately has been Australian made cars only for other manufacturers ( ), that would count any Lexus out.
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20 May 2003, 06:27 (Ref:604264) | #33 | |
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Lexus are a bit, how you say, "upmarket" for the intended demographic.
Shoot me down, but I would like Holden/Ford only. |
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20 May 2003, 06:33 (Ref:604267) | #34 | ||
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The interesting part is that a Lexus IS200 is on the same shopping list as a Statesman, Calais, Fairlane, Fairmont Ghia, 3 series, A4 etc... they are aspirational cars, which is all thats important really...
I mean how many XR6 and XR8's are there on the road compared to the standard cars? Or S and SS's relative to the Executives |
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20 May 2003, 06:43 (Ref:604276) | #35 | |
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The true test is how many XR Falcons and S/SS Commodores are in the carparks of Australia's racing circuits.
In fact, how many Fords/Holdens are there, period? |
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