Newman-Haas significant step to IRL - Page 2

Flatspot · 15 Sep 2003, 17:06 (Ref:719747)

Anybody know how he ran in the ChampCar as a comparison to the IndyCar?

Russfeld · 21 Sep 2003, 22:35 (Ref:725880)

Dont compare times to months and months ago, compare to times that day. N/H were at Penske speed on the day.

Flatspot · 22 Sep 2003, 02:54 (Ref:725963)

I wasn't asking for that Russfeld. I understand they had both car types at the test of the same day. A little touchy are we?

Russfeld · 22 Sep 2003, 17:16 (Ref:726692)

I was replying to someone else. A little touchy are we?

Flatspot · 22 Sep 2003, 22:58 (Ref:727137)

Sorry Russfeld, I guess I am. I didn't see where your response fit anywhere else on this thread. Now I do. Please accept my apology.

BootsOntheSide · 23 Sep 2003, 10:08 (Ref:727491)

Interesting to note that Paul Newman is supposedly actively trying to locate a title sponsor for CART, which suggests that that's where his loyalties are. Haas apepars to be the one elaning towards the IRL - a lot of the CART forum speculation suggests that they could split, with Haas forming an IRL team and Newman a CART one.

indycool · 23 Sep 2003, 11:06 (Ref:727553)

Last year, N-H was the last to formally say what they were doing and Haas has said they were talking to Toyota. Think maybe Boots' speculation from the CART board has some merit.

Russfeld · 23 Sep 2003, 13:21 (Ref:727724)

If they were splitting i dont think NEWMAN-haas would have issued a press release about Indy04

indycool · 23 Sep 2003, 13:25 (Ref:727729)

Good point, Russ......

hawkeracer · 23 Sep 2003, 20:42 (Ref:728108)

"Your reasoning is 100% acceptable, Boots, I just wondered how long will they resist seeing Penske, Ganassi, Nunn, Andretti etc. racing, from the wall, without being part of the series... "

All they have to do is look at the stands.

There seems to be more teams than spectators.

CART may very well be near death, but the IRL is nothing more than death, while still breathing.

oily oaf · 1 Oct 2003, 13:16 (Ref:736664)

I bet youran absolute riot down at your local boozer "The Wristslitter and Manic Depressive's Arms.

climb · 1 Oct 2003, 14:04 (Ref:736725)

Quote:

Originally posted by hawkeracer
"Your reasoning is 100% acceptable, Boots, I just wondered how long will they resist seeing Penske, Ganassi, Nunn, Andretti etc. racing, from the wall, without being part of the series... "

All they have to do is look at the stands.

There seems to be more teams than spectators.

CART may very well be near death, but the IRL is nothing more than death, while still breathing.

I should make some effort to deny what you say, but it's not necessary: Newman-Haas, with their decision to be spare dealer, are the first to bet on IRL good wealth (dead series--> no spares to sell, did you realize it?)

About attendance, well you should watch the races and verify that, in a good part of them (not all, certainly)stands are well crowded.
Obviously we all know that Open wheel racing in the States is far from attracting the crowds of Nascar, except for Indy500 (oops!it's IRL: maybe 400,000 teams running over there?

); however they are many more than people attending CART venues (let's get that straight, i'm not anti-CART, but facts are facts)

esorniloc · 1 Oct 2003, 19:49 (Ref:737085)

Isn't it just possible that they will do both the IRL and CART?

climb · 2 Oct 2003, 06:34 (Ref:737538)

They didn't do any announcement for now, let's wait and see.

Russfeld · 3 Oct 2003, 15:33 (Ref:739497)

Whatever extent they run IRL, it will be in addition to CART.

climb · 3 Oct 2003, 15:56 (Ref:739511)

Undoubtedly

esorniloc · 3 Oct 2003, 21:59 (Ref:739866)

How long are the current drivers contracted for and would one of them run in the IRL?

indycool · 3 Oct 2003, 22:15 (Ref:739878)

Haas quit the CART board today, so who knows?

champcarman · 3 Oct 2003, 23:03 (Ref:739908)

A good idea to be a spare parts supplier to the IRL. There are not many small crashes in the IRL so spares could be lucrative business. The best thing about the IRL is that nice guys like Tony Renna, who is a pretty average road racer, can get the oppotunity to be competitive in this less demanding discipline.

indycool · 3 Oct 2003, 23:06 (Ref:739910)

Not going there again in the "less demanding discipline" route again, champ. Already discussed. IMO, as always and forevermore, say drag racing, road racing, oval racing, off-road racing in different machines are DIFFERENT, not more or less demanding.

marcus · 4 Oct 2003, 01:39 (Ref:739967)

agreed.

Putting my mod hat on here.

Lets please not go down this route of less demanding and fighting between the two series please.

climb · 6 Oct 2003, 14:02 (Ref:741953)

Actually, becoming spare dealer is lucrative according to the number of cars you providder runs.
In the current season, with just 4-5 cars per race (except Indy of course), could hardly break-even.
Entering the series could be a way to increase the total movement.

3state · 26 Oct 2003, 02:57 (Ref:763150)

Recent news is that they've openly committed themselves to CART or whatever it will be called next year (I read an interview with Newman - can't find the link though) but the inference from the interview is that if everything happened to go pear-shaped with CART, then they'd be tooled up and ready to race in the IRL. As to those out there who see with some relish, that this rumour signals the final nail in the coffin for CART I would say, that the situatin is actually more buoyant and positive in CART at the end of this season than it was last season. There will be a CART series next year...

As to any commitment to IRL it seems they're only interested in competing in the Indy 500, probably for the prestige and to satisfy the sponsors.

3state · 26 Oct 2003, 03:02 (Ref:763157)

Here's the link...sounds pretty definitive to me:

http://www.tsn.ca/auto_racing/cart/n...y.asp?ID=57987

climb · 27 Oct 2003, 13:34 (Ref:764540)

Quote:

Originally posted by 3state
...the situatin is actually more buoyant and positive in CART at the end of this season than it was last season.

No doubt about it; TG was, earlier this year, rumoured to add some road races to the IRL 2004 schedule, had CART dead, in order to catch the most prestigiuos ones.
The official release of 2004 schedule contains 100% oval races; which means that his dream is, if not deleted, at least postponed...

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