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10 Dec 2003, 11:00 (Ref:1581938) | #26 | ||
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Thanks for the stuff on the Wilson B29, I guess we may never know this one, unless anyone has any MNs/ASs for early 78, when he first started using it, there may have been a mention of the car's history... Last edited by John Turner; 14 Apr 2006 at 14:16. Reason: Chassis Archive edit! |
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Patsy McG had a B29 until 76 then the B39 in 77.
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8 Jan 2004, 16:14 (Ref:1581949) | #28 | ||
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Agree that Patsy went straight from his B29 to a new B39
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9 Jan 2004, 15:16 (Ref:1581954) | #29 | ||
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Response to Dan Rear's question about the Bryce Wilson B29. I remember it in Libre in Scotland back in 78. Used to do well against better cars and more experienced drivers (I think he was only 19 at the time). The car was owned by Laurence Jacobsen who converted to Supersaloon spec the next year as a Sunbeam Stiletto (Hillman Imp fast back). It ran for maybe two years then went to Eric Munnoch (Not absolutely sure about this) who used it with a Rover V8. That's the last I saw of it.(I was only a teenager at the time). Lots of memories of Scottish Motorsport in the late seventies/early eighties!
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9 Jan 2004, 15:42 (Ref:1581955) | #30 | ||
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Cameron, thaks for the update, were you aware of this Jeremy/Chris?? Scots/Northern England Libre was great at that time, such as Barton, Dickson, Rollo, Lawson, Jacobson, Smith, Evans etc, etc. Have you any memories of this era to enlighten us with ?
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9 Jan 2004, 16:49 (Ref:1581956) | #31 | ||
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Thanks Cameron, I never got as far as Ingliston, so it's' news to me, although Eric Munnoch's name rings a bell from GT reports.
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2 May 2004, 05:13 (Ref:1581974) | #32 | ||
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Chris.
As this thread is your baby, can you advise what Chevron B29 cars we have come up with via this thread and their chassis numbers. Bryan. |
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3 May 2004, 11:55 (Ref:1581975) | #33 | ||
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B29 Chevron's update. 1: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 2: Works test car. Used by Crawford early season in UK, then to Opert for James Crawley in UK. Probably taken to US end of 1975 3: Opert for Hector Rebaque in Euro F2 and then Canadian Atlantic. 1976 sold to Carl Leibich 4: Wheatcroft for Richard Morgan. Mid season to Brett Riley. 1976 - 77 Ken Bailey. 1978 Eddie Jordan, 1979 Vivian Candy. Broken for spares in 1980s 5: Albert Poon 6: Alo Lawler till 1976. 1977 John Eastwood; 1978: Joey Greenan; 1979 Ken Fildes 7: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 8: Opert 9: Opert 10: ROC. Xavier Lapeyre in Euro F2 to end 1976 11 Not built [Chevron rarely built 11; 22; 33 etc] 12: ROC for Christian Ethuin in Euro F2 13 Not built 14: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 15: SDC for Stephen Choularton early season, then Crawford. 1976 Len Booysen in S. Africa 16: Bill Brack; 1976: Brad Abbott 17: Peter Williams. 1976 Run for Crawford by Williams then sold mid season to Martin Birrane. 1977 Birrane 18: Rapid Movements for MAtt Spitzley and late season Gunnar Nilsson. 1976: John Gibb in S. Africa 19: SDC for Stephen Choularton. Used late season by Richard Morgan when replaced by Henton at Wheatcroft. 1976: Phil Dowsett; 1977: John Ledlie 20: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 21: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 22: Not built 23: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 24: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 25: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 26: Waiting for independent confirmation of history 27: Gustav Hoeker for Harald Ertl [Euro F2]. 1976: Helmut Bross for MAnfred Schurti. 1977: Bross and Alois Muller 28: Probably an Opert car at Trois Rivieres new for Dolhem or Jarier 29: Derek Cook. 1976/77 Jeremy Rossiter 30: Works: Hans Binder [Euro F2]; 1976: Brian Redman in NZ then to Dave Oxton; 1977: Oxton to Eric Morgan till 1981. Then to Chris Read. Chris |
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4 May 2004, 07:52 (Ref:1581976) | #34 | ||
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Thanks, F1R have Eurorace for Hans Binder 4 or 5 times in Euro F2 , in 29-75-32. A lot of your to be advised will be covered out of the Trois-Rivieres event with 9 x B29 cars runnung. Bryan. |
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4 May 2004, 08:46 (Ref:1581977) | #35 | ||
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That chassis 32 in F1R comes from a number cited in Motoring News F2 race report. I think that is a misprint and the build record stops at 30 with the Binder car. Maybe the car carried the wrong plate for some reason, but I can't think why. Of the ones awaiting further evidence, I think I know the identity of the McGarrity, Sposato and Jensen cars. The problem with sales to Opert is simply that without a back trail from a current owner or an in period chassis observation - seemingly not done much in North America - there's little way of knowing who the car was eventually consigned to. Chris |
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4 May 2004, 11:36 (Ref:1581978) | #36 | ||
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Yes this seems to be a fairly standard scenario in the states , I am does not appear to be a network of people that were interested in period , we find this a lot with cars that are imported from the U.S.A. with previous history at a premium. In case you don't have them, these are the following entries from Trois-Rivieres, Opert/ Gitanes=Jean Pierre Jarier. Opert/ Gitanes=Jose Dolhem. Brack/ S.T.P. B29-75-16 . Jensen/ Jensen. Opert/Gitanes=Jean Pierre Jaussaud. Opert/ Vavoline=Hector Rebaque. B$B / Syd. Demovsky. Isola Racing/Seb Barone. Ferguson Canada Racing/ Samsonite/ Peter Ferguson. All listed as B29s. Bryan. |
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4 May 2004, 13:53 (Ref:1581979) | #37 | ||
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I think I gave Allen the full results for 1975 Trois Rivieres! The B&B car for Demovsky is one of two sold to Bobby Brown. I need confirmation on these two chassis [I think I know which they were] but will never know which car Demovsky raced, unless someone like Chris Waddell finds his race notebooks. Chris |
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4 May 2004, 14:00 (Ref:1581980) | #38 | ||
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Chris/Bryan, now this has made a very welcome return, can I ask again re the Bryce Wilson car. No 19 perhaps or 29 ? These are only guesses based on Chris' recent list.
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4 May 2004, 16:56 (Ref:1581981) | #39 | ||
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That cars in/from the US have little history of ownership is surprising. SCCA required logbooks from 1972 onward, so yes, I agree that many earlier cars have lost their histories, but the cars from this period should be documented to some extint by the logbook. The back page in the SCCA book I finally got for my Modus has a sign off of each of the previous owners over here. So, getting that book or at least a copy of it is important to keep the history trail intact.
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4 May 2004, 17:38 (Ref:1581982) | #40 | ||
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We never "announced" the 1975 Canadian results on OldRacingCars.com. Did we have some last checks to do? I notice Depailler's second car should be a "T" rather than a "DNS" and I think we discussed that my "DNQH" didn't work too well for this sort of race. Anyhow - they are here but, to save everyone the trouble of a click: Trois Rivieres, 31 August 1975 1 Vittorio Brambilla, Doug Shierson Racing #91 March 75B - Ford BDA Cosworth, 60 laps, 1.04.12.5 2 Jean-Pierre Jarier, Fred Opert Racing/Gitanes #2 Chevron B29 - Ford BDA Hart, 60 laps, 1.04.53.7 3 Jean-Pierre Jaussaud, Fred Opert Racing/Gitanes #3 Chevron B29 - Ford BDA Hart, 60 laps, 4 José Dolhem, Fred Opert Racing/Gitanes #7 Chevron B29 - Ford BDA Hart, 59 laps, 5 Hector Rebaque, Fred Opert Racing #5 Chevron B29 [29.75.03] - Ford BDA Hart, 59 laps, 6 Bertil Roos, Ecurie Canada-Schweppes/Castrol #40 March 75B [10] - Ford BDA Hart, 59 laps, 7 Dave Walker, Robert Joubert Racing- Quaker State #30 Lola T350 [HU1] - Ford BDA Nicholson, 59 laps, 8 John Nicholson, Alan McCall Racing #18 Tui BH2 - Ford BDA Nicholson, 58 laps, 9 Seb Barone, Isola Racing #28 Chevron B29 - Ford BDA Hart, 58 laps, 10 Syd Demovsky, B&B Racing #80 Chevron B29 - Ford BDA Hart, 58 laps, 11 Tom Bagley, Kent Oil #52 Chevron B27 - Ford BDA Hart, 58 laps, Out of petrol 12 Peter Ferguson, Ferguson Canada Racing-Samsonite #76 Chevron B29 - Ford BDA Hart, 53 laps, 13 Tom Pumpelly, Cavanaugh Racing-Hoffman #34 March 75B - Ford BDA Cosworth, 52 laps, 14 Price Cobb, Doug Shierson Racing #6 March 75B - Ford BDA Race Shop, 50 laps, 15 Giles Villeneuve, Skiroulle #69 March 75B [8] - Ford BDA Swindon, 46 laps, Accident 16 Frank Delvecchio, Analube #39 March 73B [722-20] - Ford BDA Cosworth, 36 laps, 17 James King, Raggedy Ann Racing #22 March 73B - Ford BDA Traylor, 31 laps, Gearbox 18 Bobby Rahal, Red Roof Inns #23 Lola T360 - Ford BDA McCoy, 26 laps, Gearbox 19 Tom Klausler, Traylor #63 Lola T360 - Ford BDA Whitehurst, 25 laps, Electrics 20 David Westgate, #71 Lola T360 [HU4] - Ford BDA Hart, 24 laps, 21 Howdy Holmes, Bill Scott Racing #24 Lola T360 - Ford BDA BSR, 21 laps, Cam belt 22 Elliot Forbes-Robinson, Bill Scott Racing-Penthouse #44 Lola T360 - Ford BDA BSR, 20 laps, Engine 23 Bruce Jensen, Jensen Exotic Plants #41 Chevron B29 - Ford BDA Hart, 13 laps, Stuck throttle 24 Charles T. Gibson, #58 March 712M - Ford BDA Cosworth, 13 laps, 25 Craig Hill, Ecurie Canada/Gabriel #4 March 75B - Ford BDA Hart, 12 laps, 26 Chip Mead, Lambrusco by Zonin #17 March 75B - Ford BDA Cosworth, 12 laps, 27 Bill Brack, STP #1 Chevron B29 [29.75.16] - Ford BDA Hart, 9 laps, Accident 28 Damien Magee, Alan McCall Racing #19 Tui BH2 - Ford BDA Nicholson, 9 laps, Accident 29 Reg Scullion, Dicom Express #95 March 74B - Ford BDA Hart, 7 laps, 30 Patrick Depailler, Ecurie Canada/Ramada Inns #12 March 75B - Ford BDA Williams, 4 laps, Engine 31 Jacques Desjardins, #87 Lola T360 - Ford BDA Nicholson, 2 laps, DNQH Hugh Cree, #16 Chevron B29 - Ford BDA Hart, Did not qualify from heats DNQH Tom Gloy, Hanna Industries #13 Lola T360 - Ford BDA Smith, Did not qualify from heats DNQH Vince Muzzin, #99 March 75B - Ford BDA Cosworth, Did not qualify from heats DNQH Pat Walter, Amerodaen Racing #10 Ralt RT1 [6] - Ford BDA, Did not qualify from heats DNQH John Gloviak, #65 Brabham BT35 [41] - Ford BDA Hart, Did not qualify from heats DNQH Mauro Lanaro, #35 March 712M - Ford BDA Cosworth, Did not qualify from heats DNQH Marcel Talbot, Tamaco Industries #9 March 75B - Ford BDA, Did not qualify from heats DNQH Tim Cooper, Rutledge Oil #8 March 75B - Ford BDA Williams, Did not qualify from heats DNQH Bruce Kramer, #90 Elden Mk 16 [155/16001/73] - Ford BDA, Did not qualify from heats DNS Cliff Hansen, Doug Shierson Racing March 75B - Ford BDA Cosworth, Did not start DNS Patrick Depailler, Ecurie Canada/Ramada Inns #12 March 75B [12] - Ford BDA Cosworth, Did not start Heat 1 1 Charles T. Gibson, ? laps, 2 Hugh Cree, ? laps, 3 Tom Gloy, ? laps, 4 Vince Muzzin, ? laps, 5 Pat Walter, ? laps, 6 John Gloviak, ? laps, 7 Mauro Lanaro, ? laps, 8 Marcel Talbot, ? laps, 9 Tim Cooper, ? laps, 10 Bruce Kramer, ? laps, Qualifying 1 Patrick Depailler, 1.05.3 1 Patrick Depailler * , 1.05.3 2 Jean-Pierre Jarier, 1.05.4 3 Giles Villeneuve, 1.05.9 4 Tom Klausler, 1.06.0 5 José Dolhem, 1.06.1 6 Bobby Rahal, 1.06.3 7 Howdy Holmes, 1.06.4 8 Tom Bagley, 1.06.5 9 Vittorio Brambilla, 1.06.6 10 Bill Brack, 1.06.7 11 Bruce Jensen, 1.06.9 12 Chip Mead, 1.06.9 13 Jean-Pierre Jaussaud, 1.06.9 14 Damien Magee, 1.06.9 15 Elliot Forbes-Robinson, 1.07.0 16 Price Cobb, 1.07.0 17 Dave Walker, 1.07.1 18 Cliff Hansen * , 1.07.2 19 Bertil Roos, 1.07.2 20 Hector Rebaque, 1.07.3 21 Tom Pumpelly, 1.07.7 22 Syd Demovsky, 1.07.7 23 James King, 1.07.9 24 Craig Hill, 1.08.1 25 Seb Barone, 1.08.1 26 John Nicholson, 1.08.3 29 Peter Ferguson, 1.08.6 30 Reg Scullion, 1.08.7 31 Frank Delvecchio, 1.08.9 32 Jacques Desjardins, 1.08.9 33 David Westgate, 1.09.3 * Did not start |
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5 May 2004, 11:34 (Ref:1581990) | #41 | ||
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Re the Bryce Wilson B29. I'd agree with either 19 or 29 as the likely car because there aren't that many other extant B29s in the UK. For 19 the car has to come back from N.Ireland to S. Scotland - not difficult. Jeremy Rossiter owned 29 until end 77 but didn't race it that year. Jeremy, if you're still following this forum, can you remember who bought it? Chris |
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5 May 2004, 12:40 (Ref:1581991) | #42 | ||
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Chris, just checked the previous page and listing again, could the Wilson car also have been -17, the one Birrane had in 77. Or did that one go to Ireland maybe, given Martin B's connexions over there ?
Still on B29s, which was the Bob Howlings 1981 car, any ideas. Quite a scruffy one, I saw it at Donington and Mallory in July 81 from memory, definitely a 29, not the B42 he used occasionally in 1980. On Lolas, did the T350 F3 car ever race in F3 over here, or was it converted to an FAt early in 75 ? I recall Neve was due to race one, ie a T350, also in F3 that year. |
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5 May 2004, 14:22 (Ref:1581992) | #43 | ||
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17 would be another candidate for Wilson. I need to do some more digging on this. Joubert used 350-HU1 at the very start of the British F3 season, but I'm not sure he ever started a race! He was a very wealthy S.African. Started with a t/c engine [or was it the Pinto s/c?], which clearly wasn't as quick as a Toyota by then, so switched immediately to a Toyota, but all I can find is a succession of DNS. Then he shows up with it in Canada Chris |
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6 May 2004, 10:29 (Ref:1581995) | #44 | ||
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Chris, any thoughts on the Howlings B29 I mentioned above?
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28 Jun 2004, 11:12 (Ref:1582015) | #45 | ||
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Great, finally 3rd party confirmation of McGarrity's B29 as 29.75.07. This agrees with build record Chris |
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31 Aug 2004, 12:57 (Ref:1582085) | #46 | |
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Dear Chris/Allen
I have followed with interest the references to the chevron b29's which were sent to South Africa in 1976 through the thread. In particular the Gunnar Nilsson car which was sold by Rapid Movements to John Gibb. As far as I know there were only ever two b29's in S.A. b29-75-15 which was acquired by Len Booysen and b29-75-18/25 (the Gibb car). I have recently purchased the latter and can confirm that it carries the chassis plate b29-75-25 as reflected in the info posted by Allen. Is there some way of confirming the likely scenario that b29-75-18 was fitted with a replacement tub b29-75-25 during the 75 season, as the info seems to support this? Anthony Corin |
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15 Nov 2004, 20:20 (Ref:1582087) | #47 | ||
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I have recently bought a B29 which is almost complete but needs work. Does anyone know of a B29 in the Uk I can look at closely to get the engine bay layout correct?
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A very specific request concerning a Chevron B29.
[Unusual for this thread I know!] Does anyone have an image of Hector Rebaque's Opert B29? Specifically as it ran in F2 in the early races of 1975, NOT in the Canadian Atlantic series later in the season. [Or anyone who remembers what colour it was] Chris |
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Hi Chris. I am a first time user having just joined the forum but wanted to say hi as you have dug up a lot of info re Formula Pacific's that raced in New Zealand. In particular, mention was made of a Chevron that I was incorrectly linked to - the Chevron B29 of Redman / Oxton.
I did drive a Chevron previously raced by David Oxton but this was not a B29. David also built a new car from parts consisting of a B34 tub (no chassis number but I believe this to be a spare tub from Opert Racing) with modifications including March single post rear wing March side pods (similar to those of a 792) He called this car a Chevron B34+ and raced it with Pye sponsorship. I only competed in it a few times as sponsorship funding was difficult. It appeared firstly in red with Autex Industries sponsorship and then white with Racebred Clothing sponsorship. I think this car was then sold to John Wigston (via Kenny Smith) for John's daughter (Joanna) to race. John also owned an ex Keke Rosberg / Fred Opert Racing Chevron B34 and the ex Grant Campbell B39 (both of which were damaged at the time) He has since had the B39 running but I am not aware if the Rosberg car was ever repaired and also not sure if he owns any / all of these cars still. Re the Chevron B29's, I believe all of the following NZ'ers had an association with a B29 but not sure if it was always the same car or where it went - John Nicholson, David Oxton, Grant Campbell, Eric Morgan. Hope some of this helps. |
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Sorry Guys, I should have spent more time reading the 26 pages..... of info before sending my two bobs worth, you are well & truly past what I mention. Great work though, entertaining readin
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