Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > General Forums > Virtual Racers

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 6 Jul 2006, 23:09 (Ref:1649961)   #26
gizmo71
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
United Kingdom
UK
Posts: 29
gizmo71 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Monster
Anyone from Simbin care to say if GTR2's 3D engine has been tweaked or optimised at all since GTL?
According to the interview with Ian Bell (now of Blimey! Games) in the latest AutoSimSport magazine, yes, although that was partly to add proper rain effects. Without your setup you should not be getting severe slowdowns in GTL; make sure shadows are set to minimum (but not off, that looks horrid!) as they're the biggest CPU hogs in the graphical side.

Release date (from the same interview) for GTR2 is late August or early September.
gizmo71 is offline  
Quote
Old 7 Jul 2006, 11:47 (Ref:1650213)   #27
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,228
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by gizmo71
According to the interview with Ian Bell (now of Blimey! Games) in the latest AutoSimSport magazine, yes, although that was partly to add proper rain effects. Without your setup you should not be getting severe slowdowns in GTL; make sure shadows are set to minimum (but not off, that looks horrid!) as they're the biggest CPU hogs in the graphical side.

Release date (from the same interview) for GTR2 is late August or early September.
I love the content of the GTR and GTL games, however I don't like the ISI Gmotor engine. I think its massively inefficient and badly coded.

I run a AMD 4000+ with a X1900XTX. Very few games should be bringing this setup to its knees, but GTL does just that.
Its not even THAT graphically intensive, no light sourcing, no HDR yet I get really quite sloppy frame rates, 45FPS at times. Regarding being CPU intensive, I don't really subscribe to that either. I have ran my CPU at 2000Mhz and then tested the frame rate, then set the CPU at 2700Mhz, then tested the frame rate again, it was exactly the same.

The reason why GTL stutters, wobbles and judders like an old washing machine is because the game engine is terrible. Its a fundamental coding problem as no amount of extra PC oommph improves the performance of the game at all.

However, I see from the interview you mention that a lot of effort has gone into recoding the engine for GTR2 with more load being placed off the CPU onto the GPU, whatever that means is open to question, however I hope they have made massive changes to the coding.

Last edited by Sodemo; 7 Jul 2006 at 11:49.
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Old 7 Jul 2006, 15:07 (Ref:1650319)   #28
Rockmunky
Veteran
 
Rockmunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
England
'artfordshire
Posts: 1,964
Rockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridRockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Had a look on GTR2 site, no demo to be seen.
No updates since June 1 i think..
Rockmunky is offline  
__________________
Hah!
Quote
Old 8 Jul 2006, 09:24 (Ref:1650716)   #29
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,228
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rockmunky
Had a look on GTR2 site, no demo to be seen.
No updates since June 1 i think..
It seems its going to be a few weeks for the demo.
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Old 14 Jul 2006, 16:45 (Ref:1656310)   #30
Spudgun
Race Official
Veteran
 
Spudgun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
England
Reading, UK
Posts: 2,776
Spudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Just a heads-up and I can only speak for the UK....

A work colleague of mine bought PC Gamer today and in the next issue bit on the back page it says the GTR2 demo is going to be on next month's cover disc. It says it will be on sale on 3rd August, so I'll be looking out for that.
Spudgun is offline  
__________________
Successfully crashing a probe into the moon is like saying you successfully swam the English Channel by having your corpse wash up on the beach.
Quote
Old 14 Jul 2006, 19:01 (Ref:1656379)   #31
gizmo71
Rookie
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
United Kingdom
UK
Posts: 29
gizmo71 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
10tacle are now saying "September 2006" for the full release of GTR2.
gizmo71 is offline  
Quote
Old 17 Jul 2006, 12:12 (Ref:1658139)   #32
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,228
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudgun
Just a heads-up and I can only speak for the UK....

A work colleague of mine bought PC Gamer today and in the next issue bit on the back page it says the GTR2 demo is going to be on next month's cover disc. It says it will be on sale on 3rd August, so I'll be looking out for that.
Yep, I read that the Germans might get that PC Gamer issue before us, so we shall see if any kind soul wants to upload it for us to download perhaps?

Yes, I also hear the September date for GTR2, certainly a long way off the June date which was mooted.
So we might get it for 2 or 3 whole days of their "Summer 2006" launch campaign - great.
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Old 19 Jul 2006, 11:35 (Ref:1659899)   #33
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,228
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
Scratch that.

PC GTR2 demo is out Friday 21st at 5pm BST, confirmed.

http://uk.gamespot.com/promos/2006/g...tag=gtr2_csbox

However the release date has slipped again to Sept 30th, so much for the summer release then.
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Old 21 Jul 2006, 22:56 (Ref:1661823)   #34
JAG
Veteran
 
JAG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
England
Posts: 10,500
JAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridJAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridJAG should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Been playing the demo, very good.

There's more grip than before, maybe too much, but certainly more realistic than the cars in GTR1 that spun regularly.

I've read that if you use the F keys you can turn the driving aids off, they may not turn off completely in the games menus, I'll have to try it.
JAG is offline  
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2006, 10:14 (Ref:1662076)   #35
Rockmunky
Veteran
 
Rockmunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
England
'artfordshire
Posts: 1,964
Rockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridRockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
About to install the demo now, will tell you what i think from someone who hasn't played the original GTR later.


Can't wait though
Rockmunky is offline  
__________________
Hah!
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2006, 20:58 (Ref:1662310)   #36
Rockmunky
Veteran
 
Rockmunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
England
'artfordshire
Posts: 1,964
Rockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridRockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Well, first things first.
WOW!

Absolutely amazing, after the first few laps around spain i realised that i had been waiting for a racing game like this for years. Games like GT4 et TRD3 pale into insignificance compared with this. The in car views are stunning, lovely graphical touches, such as the carbon fibre, and the switches.

External, the cars look pretty good, with the usual glowing discs, flames from the exhaust etc. The track whichis available in the demo (catalunya), is modelled really nicely, things that make the experience thast more realistic such as lights on the pitlane, marshals, and other pit crews adds to the sensation of being there. The day/night/day cycles are quite good, but sometimes i don't think it's quite dark enough at 2am for example.

As you can only do a maximum of 15 laps or 26 minute races, there wasn't that many marbles by the side of the track at the end, but for the amount of time there was, the marbles seemed to affect grip accordingly when i slid onto them.

The physics themselves makesGT4 look like Crash Team racing on the PS1 (bit harsh i know, just making a point) if you come into a corner too hot, it will punish you; either by sending you off for tea with the tyre wall, or crawling slowly through the gravel, whicht he punishes you with poor grip for the next few corners.

Overall, i am thoroughly emjoying playing the demo, and can't wait for Sept 30, when the full version will hit the shops. However, i'm not sure one track is enough to keep me amused until then.

I will go as far as saying that it's the best racing game i have ever played, and i don't think TRD3 or GT4 will get much use from now on...
Rockmunky is offline  
__________________
Hah!
Quote
Old 22 Jul 2006, 23:23 (Ref:1662370)   #37
Spudgun
Race Official
Veteran
 
Spudgun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
England
Reading, UK
Posts: 2,776
Spudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
We have you now..

[slightly OT]
Its funny, I was never that brilliant at console driving games (with a pad anyway) but the GT-One around Cote d'Azur (Monaco) was mine... Especially if a wheel was hooked up.
[/slightly OT]

I've just had a go and I think it is a real improvement over GTR, which barring some of the annoying niggles I hold in very high regard. I can feel the car more and although road cars and racing cars are completely different machines I feel I can relate a little more. Its nice to be able to plant the trottle, feel exactly whats going and be able make any adjustments based on whats coming back to me through the wheel. No nasty surprises. I think I'll definitelty be making an 'investment' on launch day.

I've only got in and driven on the standard setup for about 20 minutes so far, so it should be fun to see what it does with a few tweaks.

Last edited by Spudgun; 22 Jul 2006 at 23:26.
Spudgun is offline  
__________________
Successfully crashing a probe into the moon is like saying you successfully swam the English Channel by having your corpse wash up on the beach.
Quote
Old 23 Jul 2006, 07:32 (Ref:1662539)   #38
Rockmunky
Veteran
 
Rockmunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
England
'artfordshire
Posts: 1,964
Rockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridRockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Yes, i've been converted, i'll admit

Anyone know which 24 hour races are included along side spa?
Rockmunky is offline  
__________________
Hah!
Quote
Old 1 Sep 2006, 21:08 (Ref:1699565)   #39
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,228
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
http://www.sendit.com/game/item/6000000003541

GTR2 £17.89 delivered.

Not a bad price.
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Old 8 Sep 2006, 19:43 (Ref:1705509)   #40
Hazard
Veteran
 
Hazard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Posts: 5,710
Hazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridHazard should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Most sites are now listing 22nd Sept as the release date (as opposed to the 15th seen on many earlier)
Hazard is offline  
Quote
Old 8 Sep 2006, 19:51 (Ref:1705514)   #41
Rockmunky
Veteran
 
Rockmunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
England
'artfordshire
Posts: 1,964
Rockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridRockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
I want it now! Oh well... a few weeks isn't that far to wait, though it will feel like forever.
Rockmunky is offline  
__________________
Hah!
Quote
Old 9 Sep 2006, 18:49 (Ref:1706074)   #42
Try Hard
Veteran
 
Try Hard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
China
Taicang
Posts: 981
Try Hard should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
have to say, this has demo has got me back into racing sims... GTL basically passed me by. Gonna have to get the full version when it arrives.

Ed
Try Hard is offline  
__________________
watch this space :)
Quote
Old 13 Sep 2006, 21:42 (Ref:1709812)   #43
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,228
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
29th now.
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Old 14 Sep 2006, 08:18 (Ref:1710008)   #44
Chris Y
Veteran
 
Chris Y's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
United Kingdom
Over there, over here
Posts: 4,380
Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!
Only for sendit.com - some others still list the 15th, some the 22nd, and some already have the game in their hands (Finland).

Clear as mud. "It'll be out when it's out" I guess.
Chris Y is offline  
__________________
This planet is mildly noted for its hoopy casinos.
Quote
Old 14 Sep 2006, 13:06 (Ref:1710181)   #45
Rockmunky
Veteran
 
Rockmunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
England
'artfordshire
Posts: 1,964
Rockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridRockmunky should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
So it's been delayed again?
Rockmunky is offline  
__________________
Hah!
Quote
Old 14 Sep 2006, 21:49 (Ref:1710539)   #46
Spudgun
Race Official
Veteran
 
Spudgun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
England
Reading, UK
Posts: 2,776
Spudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridSpudgun should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
As long its the best it can be, I don't mind if its delayed. Actually, pushing it back the odd week or two is nothing compared to some things..
Spudgun is offline  
__________________
Successfully crashing a probe into the moon is like saying you successfully swam the English Channel by having your corpse wash up on the beach.
Quote
Old 15 Sep 2006, 08:53 (Ref:1710789)   #47
Chris Y
Veteran
 
Chris Y's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
United Kingdom
Over there, over here
Posts: 4,380
Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!
I think the release day 'in Europe' was pushed back to the 29th, by Atari. However, as I said above, some guys in Finland have it already, and there's a few people bought it off eBay.

See here. - this guy still has some in stock as I type, and I know a few people have bought from him already and it arrived next day. Ok, it's a little more expensive than Sendit.com for example, but cheaper than most high street stores will be.
Chris Y is offline  
__________________
This planet is mildly noted for its hoopy casinos.
Quote
Old 15 Sep 2006, 10:29 (Ref:1710877)   #48
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,228
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
Damn, I don't use or have a Paypal account.

Tried contacting the seller regarding alternative payment, no reply...
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Old 15 Sep 2006, 12:39 (Ref:1711006)   #49
Chris Y
Veteran
 
Chris Y's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
United Kingdom
Over there, over here
Posts: 4,380
Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!Chris Y has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Monster
Damn, I don't use or have a Paypal account.
Well get one then. Sheesh, these days that's like saying "I don't have a bank account"

And you do know that you don't actually need a PayPal account to send money via PayPal, don't you?

Last edited by Chris Y; 15 Sep 2006 at 12:41.
Chris Y is offline  
__________________
This planet is mildly noted for its hoopy casinos.
Quote
Old 15 Sep 2006, 17:52 (Ref:1711262)   #50
Sodemo
Veteran
 
Sodemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
United Kingdom
Solihull, West Mids, UK
Posts: 11,228
Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!Sodemo has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Y

And you do know that you don't actually need a PayPal account to send money via PayPal, don't you?
Really?

Care to elaborate?
Sodemo is online now  
Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Peugeot 106 Maxi/GTi2000 release date Cryos Rallying & Rallycross 3 15 Sep 2003 13:18
Grand Prix 4 Release Date: June 2002 DNQ Virtual Racers 4 13 Jan 2002 23:35
GRAND PRIX 3 - release date CONFIRMED Minardi fan Virtual Racers 3 5 Jul 2000 20:38
Grand Prix 3 release date Gerard Virtual Racers 1 17 Apr 2000 03:19


All times are GMT. The time now is 21:10.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.