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Old 5 Jul 2006, 02:45 (Ref:1648535)   #26
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Brilliance. Now if we can get a GT only 3 hour race on the same card then it will be even better.
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Old 5 Jul 2006, 03:12 (Ref:1648541)   #27
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I have sused out a bit more info.
The catagories will be GT performance, Australian Production cars, there will also be a Diesel class and v8 brutes may also be able to enter.
With the carnage that can happen in the ute races would other catagories want to share a track with them?
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Old 5 Jul 2006, 03:43 (Ref:1648546)   #28
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just anounced on the local radio that a production car 12hr will be part of the BIMF at easter next year. Not sure of any class details yet, but I will see what I can hunt down.
Thats great to hear!

Maybe a FIA GT/Le Mans race in 2008 then, eh?

This will definitely make the BIMF worth attending
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Old 5 Jul 2006, 03:46 (Ref:1648547)   #29
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Today I head a local commentator on Radio 2BS(Bathurst) say something about a possible 12H race. According to him he says he heard that some manufactures have already held preliminary talks re such an event.
He is of the opinion that this may be held as part of the Bathurst Festival of Speed at Easter and could eventually become a 24H race.
I didn't fully catch the whole story so I was wondering if any one here has heard any thing.
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5:00am Race start time 5:00pm Finish and apparently 72 Grid spots

Good be all on me thinks.
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Mmmmmm, I can't wait!!!!
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Old 5 Jul 2006, 10:48 (Ref:1648754)   #31
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This is THE BEST NEWS i have heard for production based racing since the demise of Procar. Will be great to see class racing return to the mountain. May it be a resounding success, and whilst id love to see a 24hr again one day on the mount, a 12 hour in its own right will be brilliant. See you all there next year.
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Old 5 Jul 2006, 11:00 (Ref:1648760)   #32
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finaly a decent race can't wait to hear more info on this
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Old 5 Jul 2006, 11:09 (Ref:1648769)   #33
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Fantastic!!!

Any time Mazda get involved in a sport they invariably prove themselves superior, until banned
Of course they do RotorFan, they are mostly owned by Ford.
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This is THE BEST NEWS i have heard for production based racing since the demise of Procar. Will be great to see class racing return to the mountain. May it be a resounding success, and whilst id love to see a 24hr again one day on the mount, a 12 hour in its own right will be brilliant. See you all there next year.
all the inside words are that this is a trial for a 72 car field 24hr over the easter weekend in say a couple of years,

both will be bloody fantastic.
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Old 6 Jul 2006, 00:56 (Ref:1649298)   #35
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Of course they do RotorFan, they are mostly owned by Ford.
Mazda haven't won a whole lot since Ford took controlling share of Mazda...

72 car field, that is more like it! I hope these rumours come true
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Mazda haven't won a whole lot since Ford took controlling share of Mazda...
Forgive me with not being too familiar with Mazda's complete racing history but Ford have been the major share holder in Mazda since 1979.
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I thought grid capacity was 55 for the Mountain? Ah well, I don't care, the more the merrier! I am *SO* there.
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Old 6 Jul 2006, 02:47 (Ref:1649330)   #38
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Endurance races have a different grid capacity
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Old 6 Jul 2006, 04:33 (Ref:1649350)   #39
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Endurance races have a different grid capacity
and a rolling start ? OK so I'm jumping the gun heh heh.
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Rolling Start or not, I think I'll be fighting a lot of people for a good photo position at Hell Corner...
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Old 6 Jul 2006, 08:25 (Ref:1649427)   #41
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I'm not sure there would be a rolling start, GT-P and the APCC run their races from standing starts. The 24 Hour only had a rolling start as the N-GT/Nations Cup machinery didn't have standing starts in their series.


Are they going to harmonise the GT-P/APCC regulations so there is one set of rules for the race (divided into classes of course by for this arguments sake engine capacity), or will there be seperate classes for each series (eg... class one GT-P, class 2 APCC Class A etc etc....)
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Old 6 Jul 2006, 09:38 (Ref:1649493)   #42
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This race should be able to offer something for everybody (unlike the supercars). There is some interesting locally made made performance cars to cater for the Holden and Ford brigade as well as Japanese and European marques that to some degree have been ignored in recent years. Different engine specs, turbo, naturally aspirated, large and small capacity. Bring it on I say!
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This is THE BEST NEWS i have heard for production based racing since the demise of Procar.
I hope you didnt mean that the way it sounds....
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Let's hope #10 picks up TV coverage.
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Let us hope it becomes more than a pipe dream.
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Forgive me with not being too familiar with Mazda's complete racing history but Ford have been the major share holder in Mazda since 1979.
You're forgiven. Ford took controlling share of Mazda in 1996.

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Let's hope #10 picks up TV coverage.
Great point! If 10 still want to be the home of motorsport (as they define it)after losing the V8s/Bathurst, this would be a great substitute. Maybe it will get their attention and get them thinking about showing more GT/P stuff.
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Great point! If 10 still want to be the home of motorsport (as they define it)after losing the V8s/Bathurst, this would be a great substitute. Maybe it will get their attention and get them thinking about showing more GT/P stuff.
TV doesn't lead it follows.Spectators at an event MAY lead to coverage.
There is no way they would speculatively invest in an unproven event
that is V8 SUPERCAR-free.The only way to "prove" an event at Bathurst
is for somebody to stump up with a seven figure sum and pull in every
category which has some public appeal,unfortunately excluding decent
openwheelers evidently.In other words Series Production Sedans, Sports or GTs,Historic Sedans and Sports ,from the best available.NO one-make races.

Is there something sacrosanct about 12 or 24 hour races? If a main event
at Bathurst could be a 500km,or50 laps,or whatever support categories could be fitted around[or even in !!!] the main event,and provide good racing on the Saturday. Rant over.
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Old 7 Jul 2006, 07:08 (Ref:1650050)   #48
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You're forgiven. Ford took controlling share of Mazda in 1996.
Yes I know that but the actual increase in the share holding in '96 quite small tho, Ford first bought a 25% stake in Mazda in the late 70s.

What I wasn't aware of was Mazda being banned from many categories. They have chosen not to build cars cars to comply with the current rules of various categories but that is a lot different from one that states "No Mazdas"
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Thats an interesting way of looking at it.

Lets hope whatever rules they have for the 12 hour that the RX-8 is eligible, so it can dominate like the RX-7 did

Apparently they're building an RX-8 SP?
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An Rx8 maybe eligable under the GT performance catagory rules. I dont think the organisers will allow an SP version though.
From my discussions with people who are closely involved the eligble cars will run to GTP and APCC regs, which wont include "special" editions. Thats what kills production car racing, when manufacturers start making "specials" just to win a race.
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