ILMC 2011 Discussion

[sceptic]

Originally Posted by Chiana

Nothing special livery-wise, but liking the look of it already!

I just re-checked Radio Le Mans's provisional broadcast schedule for Sebring, and none of the practice sessions are listed (quali being the first one on the list). Should I get worried, or are they just fooling around again.

For Sebring and PLM, qualifying will be the first session broadcast on RLM.
For all the European ILMC races, it will be normal service.

[Deleted]

Alright then, thanks.

In any case, it's going to be a busy, busy September for Hindy and co!

[cmk]

Originally Posted by The Badger

Mako sounds Irish !!!

Sounds like a shark!

Ironically, the car looks like a different shark...

[dxk1]

Originally Posted by The Badger

Mako sounds Irish !!!

Sounds more like a big fish!

DK

[rich07]

Originally Posted by cmk

Sounds like a shark!

Ironically, the car looks like a different shark...

I was just about to post that! Beaten to it.

Im guessing thats a hammerhead your referring to cmk? I can see the resemblence. The car looks quite hungry, may it feast on Porsches this year.

[The Badger]

Originally Posted by rich07

Im guessing thats a hammerhead your referring to

Naa ..... he was refering to a basking shark , all that sucking and blowing , and not a lot to show for it , much like a Ferrari

[Speed-King]

Whale Shark

Ferrari 458 GT2

[JayBMS]

Is there any word on the TV package for the rest of the season yet?

[courageous]

Le Mans will be in full on Eurosport & a well informed source has told me that Spa will also recieve decent (albeit not full) coverage.

MotorsTV are showing the non-ILMC euro rounds & no other LM races (unless a last ditch non-ILMC ALMS deal is reached).

From that, we can deduce that Eurosport have the rights to ILMC so not even a crystal ball could tell you what they actually will show.

I have heard no suggestion of any mainstream coverage (live or otherwise).

[Deleted]

Originally Posted by courageous

From that, we can deduce that Eurosport have the rights to ILMC so not even a crystal ball could tell you what they actually will show.

Half an hour from the end plus a 50-min highlight show... maybe some Carlton Kirby coverage from the start, but only if there's no replay of some regional german soccer match scheduled to be aired on that day. Wouldn't bet against that, would you

[JAG]

Pescarolo targets ILMC in 2012.

IMO this could signal the LMS top class becoming P2.

http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...%26prmd%3Divns

Edit, LMS may split from ILMC, even running at the same tracks on different dates if the translation is correct.

HD cameras to be used from Spa onwards.

http://translate.google.co.uk/transl...%26prmd%3Divns

[AndrewF31]

Not sure how good it would be for the LMS to not run together with ILMC. Do they think that by running separate dates they'll attract more entries? The calendars are already becoming cluttered with ILMC and ALMS, plus the GT championships.
Teams that may have thought about Paul Ricard or Estoril won't be there because of the clashes with ILMC.
A lot of calendar gymnastics would be necessary for everything to work and even then it's not crystal clear that the teams will have money to do 3/4 more races.

[TheNewBob]

Originally Posted by AndrewF31

Not sure how good it would be for the LMS to not run together with ILMC. Do they think that by running separate dates they'll attract more entries? The calendars are already becoming cluttered with ILMC and ALMS, plus the GT championships.
Teams that may have thought about Paul Ricard or Estoril won't be there because of the clashes with ILMC.
A lot of calendar gymnastics would be necessary for everything to work and even then it's not crystal clear that the teams will have money to do 3/4 more races.

Perhaps the non-ILMC rounds should share a race weekend with another sportscar series like Blancpain Endurance or, dare I say it, GT Open? Hoping it wouldn't be an 'overkill' decision though since the Speed series already runs with LMS most of the time (but SRO didn't do too badly having GT1/2/3/4/90s all on the same bill in '07).

[NaBUru38]

The 12 Hours of Sebring is over, so...

LMP1 Manufacturers:

1. Peugeot, 27
2. Audi, 17
3. Aston Martin, 0

LMGTE Manufacturers:

1. BMW, 29
2. Corvette, 20
3. Ferrari, 15
4. Porsche, 8
5. Aston Martin, 0
5. Lotus, 0

LMP1 Teams:

1. Oreca, 15
2. Peugeot, 12
3. Audi, 9
4. Rebellion, 6
5. Aston Martin, 0
5. Hope, 0
5. Oak, 0

LMP2 Teams:
1. Signatech, 14
2. Oak, 11
3. Level 5, 9

LMGTE Pro Teams:
1. BMW, 16
2. AF Corse, 10
3. Luxury, 5
4. Lotus, 0

LMGTE Am Teams:
1. Krohn, 15
2. Proton, 14
3. CRS, 0
4. Larbre, 0
4. AMR Middle East, 0
4. AF Corse, 0

[arakis]

Originally Posted by NaBUru38

LMGTE Manufacturers:

1. BMW, 29
2. Corvette, 20
3. Ferrari, 15
4. Porsche, 8
5. Aston Martin, 0
5. Lotus, 0

could someone plz explain in detail the calculation that gave porsche 8pts, because i read the rules and I find it imposible, they should either have 13, if the lizard cars count or 2 if they dont

[Mal]

if three Pugs count for the title against 2 Audi's then Audi don't really have a hope do they?

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by Mal

if three Pugs count for the title against 2 Audi's then Audi don't really have a hope do they?

It's not necessarily three Pugs, it's the best-placed two.

[eizox]

shouldnt the audi team be on 17 points as opposed to 9?

LMP1 Teams:

1. Oreca, 15
2. Peugeot, 12
3. Audi, 9
4. Rebellion, 6
5. Aston Martin, 0
5. Hope, 0
5. Oak, 0

[NightStalk3r]

I thought only the best place car per team counts in the Team Championship?

[arakis]

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

I thought only the best place car per team counts in the Team Championship?

you are correct teams get points from the best finished car, + bonus 1 point if the engine of that car ran more then 15h, plus 1 pt if any car of the team won the pole position.
manuf get the combined points of 2 best cars in the category, +1 or+2 bonus points for engine depending if both cars ran their engines more the 15h, or just one one none, an +1 for pole

[gwyllion]

Originally Posted by NightStalk3r

I thought only the best place car per team counts in the Team Championship?

1 car for team title and 2 cars for manufacturer title.

So for team title it is 2 against 2 (Peugeot Sport against Audi Sport Team Joest), but for the manufacturer's cup it is 3 against 2 thanks to the Oreca entry.

[slappy2happy87]

I dont understand LMS's beef with the ILMC in 2012. Can anyone else provide some insight on this subject? 3 of the 5 LMS races are ILMC. So far the 2011 Ricard entry list is impressive IMO. I am in the united states and I am interested in watching all 5 LMS races. So only 2 races for the LMS are not ILMC and the 1st of the 2 the entry looks impressive. They dont even have the 9 challange porsches like ALMS has to add to the grid. IMO LMS looks pretty good from here in the states. Yea a team can do whatever they want but I dont see the LMS suffering as much as making a dramatic change to disconnect from the ILMC in 2012. Any thoughts?

[JAG]

I assume the Peter organisation makes it's money from entry fees and TV rights.

In that case it makes sense for them to drop P1, bring in Speed and GT3 cars to push numbers upto the 40+ mark, compete at more affordable circuits and sell their own TV rights*.

They'll have stable season long grids and perform the role of bringing teams/drivers from national series and preparing them for the step-up to the ILMC.

*I believe the ACO assume TV rights for ILMC races.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by JAG

*I believe the ACO assume TV rights for ILMC races.

It is certainly was has been explained over here. TV and Marketing rights for the events.

It would appear to be a business move for Peters Group.

[AndrewF31]

well, if they bring in GT3 and Speed to go along with the GT2s and LMPs, it could work. They have to make up for the LMP1 departure or high reduction to compensate the independence run.