Alternative 6 hour?

[Peter Mallett]

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[terence]

Originally Posted by morninggents

Purely as a matter of interest - how many will you be allowed to run at Snetterton for a 6 hour race? I note the 'Blue Book' for 2009 shows 38 allowed to start in classes other than 'Racing and Sports Racing'.

If circuit hire, officials' fees, timekeeping costs, first aid, insurance, etc totals, say, £25,000 then a full grid of 38 would give an entry fee of around £660 to cover cost. Even £750 to allow a bit of 'flex' seems very good value to me.
Although I don't have an eligible car I really hope this venture takes off this year and all your hard work is duly rewarded.

Quite right,it is allocated a grid of 38 cars,but for an enduro such as this its plus 20%,giving a grid size of 45 or so.Dont forget that there could well be other drivers with suitable cars who will need a second/third driver though.
The whole idea was born from value for money racing,quite rare these days! However,the o/heads should not be anything like those that other oranisers have to meet.

[MartinSmith]

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[morninggents]

Presumably it's intended to run the race in daylight hours? Therefore, no fancy extra light pods required?

Just a thought - is there any way an extra race could be put on during the day - say a 15 lapper at 11-30 am to allow the 6 hours to run from 12-00 to 6-00 pm. Is there a finishing time limit from the circuit owner? If there is time to squeeze in 1 additional race it may be possible to sell this in advance to one of the other clubs to defray 'up front' circuit hire deposit costs.

[terence]

It will indeed start at mid day,as you say,it saves the possible need for extra lighting,also gives the Marshals a reasonable day as well.
We had discussed the possibility of running other events during the day,but it was felt that having the one race would be more beneficial to all involved,start adding individual races and cost's start to rise,not our intention for obvious reasons.

[johngee]

Terry's quite right plus, for the 6 hour race, you need enough qualifying for up to 4 drivers for each car. If, as suggested, we put on another race, together with the qualifying for that, we would be just programming to fail...bearing in mind a marshal's lunch break.

[morninggents]

Just trying to throw ideas into the pot. I know you don't particularly want the financial aspect discussed too much but obviously the sticking point to getting this off the ground this year is the circuit hire deposit.

If there was just one extra race on the day this would obviously ease the financial burden because although total costs would be up the extra income from one additional race entry fees would surely greatly outweigh the additional cost.

If the one extra race was, just as a thought, a FPA race - what would that do to the circuit owner's view to non-returnable deposit?

[MartinSmith]

Originally Posted by morninggents

Just trying to throw ideas into the pot. I know you don't particularly want the financial aspect discussed too much but obviously the sticking point to getting this off the ground this year is the circuit hire deposit.

If there was just one extra race on the day this would obviously ease the financial burden because although total costs would be up the extra income from one additional race entry fees would surely greatly outweigh the additional cost.

If the one extra race was, just as a thought, a FPA race - what would that do to the circuit owner's view to non-returnable deposit?

You would have to speak to the Ciruit Owner for that question to be answered.

All we can tell you is that this event, would take a considerable amount of time during the day. The practice/qualifying in the morning etc, then the six hour race itself, which, if started at 12 is the rest of the day....gone. It would be very tight to include another race I feel I know that what you say is a great idea to get more revenue for the circuit hire, but, realistically, certainly from a race control perspective, it would be very very tight IMHO

[Peter Mallett]

Well everyone knows what car I'm entering so who's running what so far?

[delta]

I might be off line for a while as well if i am going to get the Escort ready.

[terence]

Good man Iain,I'll phone you every other day for an update on progress and to let you know the latest HOT NEWS FROM 10ths.

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by delta

I might be off line for a while as well if i am going to get the Escort ready.

Hope your bodyshell is in a better state than mine Iain! Don't forget to ask if you need any info.

Would like to enter Mk2 RS2000 but not guaranteed due to reason given previously! Reckon a lot of fun could be had with a 'stock hatch' 205gti or a Mk2 Golf gti series car. Mmmmmmm

[Cliff Ryan]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Well everyone knows what car I'm entering so who's running what so far?

Mk1 Escort Mexico, with another one being built

[Peter Mallett]

That's three cars then, co drivers?

[terence]

Errrm???

[terence]

Originally Posted by Cliff Ryan

Mk1 Escort Mexico, with another one being built

Nice choice Cliff,that should be a lot of fun.
Mike,shouldn't be that difficult to sort an Escort shell,not that much in them,as you know.
If anyone needs help/advice etc etc.

[Cliff Ryan]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

That's three cars then, co drivers?

XJS - my car, not eligible, Mexico - my son's car, which we will share with Gary Davis, who is building another Mk1 Mexico for himself, which should hopefully be ready in time

[alfaracer156]

I am prepared to enter in my Sud Sprint,might need a co driver though. Mike

[Cliff Ryan]

Originally Posted by terence bower

Nice choice Cliff,that should be a lot of fun.
Mike,shouldn't be that difficult to sort an Escort shell,not that much in them,as you know.
If anyone needs help/advice etc etc.

Great fun as it handles so well, not the fastest, but we are going for the 'tortoise' approach.

Mike - Gary bought the red Mexico we talked about, which he has shotblasted and is prepping for himself after driving Daniel's with it's new engine on twin 40s!

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by terence bower

Mike,shouldn't be that difficult to sort an Escort shell,not that much in them,as you know.

Even less in mine Panels arer getting difficult for Mk2s now as well as Mk1s. Although Expressed still produce most of the stuff they have quoted 4 months for delivery on some crucial bits, so have resorted to specialist breakers. Hopefully most body panels now sourced even if not actually here!

Some guys in Turkey have built a brand new Gp4 rally Mk1- every panel hand made from scratch- no presses!

So Terry, are you racing or Organising when it comes to the race itself?

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by Cliff Ryan

Great fun as it handles so well, not the fastest, but we are going for the 'tortoise' approach.

Mike - Gary bought the red Mexico we talked about, which he has shotblasted and is prepping for himself after driving Daniel's with it's new engine on twin 40s!

The ebay car! Interested to know what condition it was in- pm if you have time.

[terence]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

Even less in mine Panels arer getting difficult for Mk2s now as well as Mk1s. Although Expressed still produce most of the stuff they have quoted 4 months for delivery on some crucial bits, so have resorted to specialist breakers. Hopefully most body panels now sourced even if not actually here!

Some guys in Turkey have built a brand new Gp4 rally Mk1- every panel hand made from scratch- no presses!

So Terry, are you racing or Organising when it comes to the race itself?

I would dearly love to be racing Mike,split Safety Car Shifts? I'll have to ask 'The Boss'.
RE Escort panels,there's nothing that cannot be made by hand.

[terence]

Originally Posted by alfaracer156

I am prepared to enter in my Sud Sprint,might need a co driver though. Mike

Is that a 1700 engined car? I ran one as a road car for four years,had a Group F Brunswick engine in it,[I got Dave to build it,he had all of the bits] Cracking little car though,shouldn't have sold it really but as i was offered just over what I paid---------

[Peter Mallett]

The tortoise approach might well work, mine does less than a litre per lap there so 50l fill will be stopping abt 5 times!

[delta]

Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

The tortoise approach might well work, mine does less than a litre per lap there so 50l fill will be stopping abt 5 times!

I don't believe it!!!!. Mallet has come out with the first excuse.