WEC Porsche Prototype Discussion - Page 238

Spyderman · 11 Jun 2015, 08:48 (Ref:3547342)

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Originally Posted by cokata

so 3:15 then would have been possible. The weather won't allow it though.

Perhaps not.
According to Brendon Hartley is that they will mainly concentrating on race set-up today.
https://twitter.com/BrendonHartley/s...15652015964160

gustavobamba · 11 Jun 2015, 10:33 (Ref:3547379)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

How would a weight increase lead to higher performance? They are already in the highest ERS class (8 MJ).

I will try to explain my point of view:

If all the brands stay in the same ERS category (porsche 8mj; Toyota 6mj; audi 4 mj) and the minimum weight increase, let´s say 50 kg, don´t Porsche "because of 8 mj power" have more power to move the car?

Am I wrong to say that the brand with more hybrid power will have advantage with a weight increase???

GasperG · 11 Jun 2015, 10:45 (Ref:3547380)

No, with weight increase competition will not stay in the same ERS category

gustavobamba · 11 Jun 2015, 11:08 (Ref:3547392)

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Originally Posted by GasperG

No, with weight increase competition will not stay in the same ERS category

They will step up?

Bandicoot17 · 11 Jun 2015, 11:11 (Ref:3547394)

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Originally Posted by gustavobamba

They will step up?

Yeah I'm pretty sure Toyota 'only' need to find 20kg to go to 8MJ

gustavobamba · 11 Jun 2015, 11:13 (Ref:3547395)

But in 2017 we could see an increase in ERS category´s!!!!!

10 Mj and even 12 Mj

GasperG · 11 Jun 2015, 11:27 (Ref:3547401)

Taht may be true, but first we have 2016

Bubak · 12 Jun 2015, 00:54 (Ref:3547786)

BTW guys, point to no forget

: num. 17 had an issue with a hybrid system, Porsche mechanics worked on car around a hour. (tweet one: info about a problem https://twitter.com/PorscheRaces/sta...63350652272640 and done! https://twitter.com/PorscheRaces/sta...85858382266368 )
That was happend on Thursday.

On Wednesday, num. 19 had a "small" issue with GPS system. (So, and front brake problems for num. 8 Audi).

Spyderman · 12 Jun 2015, 06:13 (Ref:3547835)

This is going to be nail biting stuff! From what I can gather from the data, Audi still seems to have the edge in race pace. It is very close, but ......

cokata · 12 Jun 2015, 10:32 (Ref:3547890)

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Originally Posted by Spyderman

This is going to be nail biting stuff! From what I can gather from the data, Audi still seems to have the edge in race pace. It is very close, but ......

I haven't looked at the laps after on http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/, but looking at the live timing Porsche looked to have a slight edge to me. Now pace over multiple stints is another matter.

J Jay · 12 Jun 2015, 10:47 (Ref:3547893)

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Originally Posted by cokata

I haven't looked at the laps after on http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/, but looking at the live timing Porsche looked to have a slight edge to me. Now pace over multiple stints is another matter.

Truswell was running the numbers as the #7 & #17 were on longer runs. I didn't hear about Webber's times, but Fassler had a consistent gap to Hartley of a couple of tenths and they were going round at the same time so they encountered the same traffic in the same places.

Either way it will be close.

cokata · 12 Jun 2015, 10:59 (Ref:3547895)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

Truswell was running the numbers as the #7 & #17 were on longer runs. I didn't hear about Webber's times, but Fassler had a consistent gap to Hartley of a couple of tenths and they were going round at the same time so they encountered the same traffic in the same places.

Either way it will be close.

Ok then excellent. I was hopping for a real on track race and not a strategy or reliability one.

chernaudi · 14 Jun 2015, 12:37 (Ref:3550201)

Strange tech note on likely race winners Porsche from Mulsanne's Corner.

It seems that the third shock/sprint combination up front is a coilover arrangement, but it seems that the main front springs have reverted back to torsion bars as on the RS Spyder:

**bjohnsonsmith** · 14 Jun 2015, 13:04 (Ref:3550244)

Congrats to Porsche on their historic 17th Le Mans victory. Always great to see history being made.

bentley speed 8 · 14 Jun 2015, 13:10 (Ref:3550254)

That was a great showing, both in speed and reliability

500 · 14 Jun 2015, 13:15 (Ref:3550260)

Great race overall. A well earned victory for Porsche... they were genuinely fighting with Audi the whole way and were completely legitimate winners.

Fantastic result for Hulkenberg, Bamber and Tandy. I keep thinking the Hulk has been a little overlooked in F1, mostly (I think) because of his tall stature, so it is nice to see him pick up such a win.

Having said that, it would have been a great story for any of the other team cars to have won too... They all deserved it.

Audi put up a great fight and were gracious and respectful as always

J Jay · 14 Jun 2015, 13:20 (Ref:3550267)

If you replaced the coat of arms with the four rings, you would have convinced me that Audi had won today. In the #17 & #19 Porsche were trouble free, and with the #19 in particular they were faultless.

Also, what remarkable comebacks for Tandy and Bamber with their various tribulations in GTs. Porsche products rising through the ranks to take the greatest race of them all.

jasonjessica09 · 14 Jun 2015, 13:28 (Ref:3550272)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

If you replaced the coat of arms with the four rings, you would have convinced me that Audi had won today. In the #17 & #19 Porsche were trouble free, and with the #19 in particular they were faultless.

Also, what remarkable comebacks for Tandy and Bamber with their various tribulations in GTs. Porsche products rising through the ranks to take the greatest race of them all.

Will Tandy and Bamber be at Watkins Glen?

J Jay · 14 Jun 2015, 13:32 (Ref:3550278)

Not sure, I don't think there's a clash though so I would expect both of them to be there.

jsTrecu · 14 Jun 2015, 13:34 (Ref:3550279)

Yeah baby, Porsche did it!

deggis · 14 Jun 2015, 13:38 (Ref:3550281)

Bamber making a good case for a full season seat next year?

J Jay · 14 Jun 2015, 13:41 (Ref:3550283)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Bamber making a good case for a full season seat next year?

Yes, but at who's expense? I know everyone's going to point at Webber but he seems very happy and there have been no indications of a departure.

In related news, might Ford come knocking for Tandy if he isn't tied down quickly?

Spyderman · 14 Jun 2015, 13:42 (Ref:3550286)

All is as it should be.

CONGRATULATIONS PORSCHE

deggis · 14 Jun 2015, 13:43 (Ref:3550288)

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Originally Posted by J Jay

Yes, but at who's expense? I know everyone's going to point at Webber but he seems very happy and there have been no indications of a departure.

Statistically slowest excluding Webber incase it would be him because PR?

J Jay · 14 Jun 2015, 13:47 (Ref:3550292)

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Originally Posted by deggis

Statistically slowest excluding Webber incase it would be him because PR?

Well Lieb is safe because of his development role, Jani and Bernhard are the quickest drivers in their cars, so if we discount Webber that leaves Hartley and Dumas. An Antipodean swap seems unlikely to me, but neither Hartley nor Dumas are slow to my eye. Maybe the data will reveal something different.

Porsche are running into Audi problem of retaining their drivers, time for a third car if the money is available...

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