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Answer 2: 99.99% sure that Tandy and Bamber will be back in that car for Spa/Le Mans. Why deny them a chance to defend their win? |
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That's the info I was looking for. 73.5MJ/135MJ= 0.54 does anyone knows if this on par with current ICEs efficiency levels? Quote:
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7% is still too big(~40HP), imho, and that will likely take 1s away from the cars. Really hope this only applies to Le Mans(the only Grade 2 on the calendar). There is no safety need/excuse to slow down on regular Grade 1 tracks. And it's not like they would need to redesign the cars for a different fuel allocation between tracks or anything. So, totally unecessary reduction on other tracks. |
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Tbh I only see this 10MJ reduction as a first step. The rumoured 30MJ reduction would have a significant effect, and might bring the privateers back in to contention. But that would no doubt upset some people |
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I know I want my car go the same speed in ten years with using 0.93^10 (i.e., t_10 < 0.5*t_0 in other words "less than 50%") of fuel. Less than that, actually, but I'll take 50% each decade for a starter. |
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CTD likes this. Bamber & Tandy are guaranteed to be in the 3rd car again. The only thing that would keep them out is a full season 919 drive but I don't expect any movement from the #17 & #18 driver lineups. Last edited by J Jay; 9 Nov 2015 at 11:59. |
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Kevin Magnussen is an outsider to that seat too, but personally I think it should go to Michael Christensen. (also when I take out my nationality) |
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10 Nov 2015, 04:20 (Ref:3589405) | #6408 | ||
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From what I heard(don't know how accurate that is), ICEs will never be even close to 100% efficiency I think they just should have waited until 2017 to slow them down. Let one more year of free development to see the gains and then act based on two years of development rates. |
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I completely agree with you Artur. The problem is that this would make sense if there was an objective reason to slow the cars down.
We don’t see cars taking off (like in 1999) or drivers (besides some AM drivers) complaining that they feel unsafe. There really is no objective reason to slow the cars down at this time, other than political and some misplaced idea that something must be done. This untimely decision is “camouflaged” under various guises. Sometimes it is justified under the guise of “budget concerns”, other times its safety, and sometimes it is “going green”. Occasionally it is a combination of the three. I used to be more sensitive to the “budget concerns” argument than I am now-a-days. I have come to realize that manufacturers spend what they think they can afford or they can politically justify. When they reach their limit, they pull out, regardless of the rules. Would Peugeot have continued if the cost of racing a LMP1 had been half of what it was? The answer is NO! They withdrew for political reasons. They could not justify spending money (whatever the amount) when the rest of the company was financially unstable. If truth be told, the saving from their withdrawal would have been almost negligible, but it was politically necessary. Porsche did the same under Weideking. (indecently – he earned $115M in 2007 (mostly from profit sharing), yet we did not see anyone cry-out that he must earn less because the company could not afford it) To me it is almost nonsensical to “sell” a rule set that promotes future technology (and they did this very successfully) and then spend most of your time trying to undo or hinder the gains obtained from these technologies. No doubt that there is a need for a balance to be achieved between safety, budget and technology. To me, that balance has not been achieved, and is heavily skewed in favor of safety and budget (if in name only). In the end, I suppose I should be thankful that Porsche will continue for one more season, thanks to the savings from one less set of tires and 10mj less fuel used per lap. At least the drivers are safer! |
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Magnussen has driven the 919. Here are his impressions:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTdLf0QUwAEeky5.jpg |
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Interesting comment about detecting wheel lock in the front. I don't know why, but I have never thought about that.
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Given his family upbringing, i had just assumed he had some experience in cars with a roof. But it sounds like this may have been pretty unique for him.
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Some of the feel will have been taken away by the brake by wire system as well, although he should be used to this from his time in F1. It's interesting to hear that he relies on visual cues to such an extent to tell when the fronts are locking up.
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Even with the super assisted braking in a moden road car (direct) systems feel is there. Although some cars are worse than others. My race car has poor feel, or rather feel that is not as obvious as others so it takes a couple of laps to dial back in - it isn't nice until you get used to it. |
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I think the feel is most different because the front axel is harvesting energy in these lmp1's but in f1 only the rear axel has a kers system. Pedal travel is probably a big difference there since the kers is like a braking assist.
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Interesting how Mags Jnr wore a plain Alpinestars suit compared to Turvey and Evans who wore the Porsche gear. A small detail perhaps...I bet Kevin was just happy to drive a car knowing that it wasn't going to blow up before he left pit lane.
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I assume the method for detecting rear wheel lock in F1 is to look in the mirrors, or... When you notice the rear of the car passing the front!
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Just a matter of time to prepare and previous relationship with Porsche.
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Porsche took 4 awards at the Professional Motorsport Awards this year:
1- Team of the year. 2- Powertrain system 3- Motorsport Engineer (Alex Hitzinger - Very well deserved IMO) 4- Race car of the Year! CONGRATULATIONS PORSCHE!! |
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Danish media is reporting Magnussen to be the fastest of the three out of the test sessions.
No times or anything to support it. |
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I'm not really surprised. What would be really indicative, is to know how his times were in relation to the benchmark time set by Timo in the sessions. If we knew that, then we could make an educated guess on whether we will see Magnussen dressed in white at Le Mans.
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