Driver Nico vs Michael - Page 29

**Born Racer** · 17 Jul 2010, 11:58 (Ref:2727964)

And it's depressing for all of us to consider that as we age.

Schummy · 17 Jul 2010, 16:45 (Ref:2728082)

Mind you, there is people who is surprised that human beings eventually die

**Born Racer** · 17 Jul 2010, 16:47 (Ref:2728087)

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Originally Posted by RF_Racer

Michael being out of the car for 3 years and the cars changing so much is what I belive he is trying to get to the bottom of. Kubica and even Heidfeld had issues with tyres, as did Kimi IIRC.. so lets forget his past achievements for a second. Micheal drives a car with a certain style, all his cars have been very darty/pointy its how he drives it best. This years Merc is opposite to how he likes a car so he is struggling more so that Rosberg, who only ever knew understeer biased cars as all of the Williams he has drivern since 06 have been designed that way.

So lets cut him some slack and get off his case, because I do not belive he is old for the sport, not for one second. Mansell won a race at 42 and dominated Indy .. Prost also won a WC in his late 30's.

We must remember Micheal during his prime years was the fittest driver on the grid, mentally and physically.. he set the standard for all new drivers who are in F1 today.

But that suggests he's not as adaptable as he needs to be. Let's see if he adapts in the second half of this season. If he's as good as he's long been considered to be, he will get much closer to Rosberg and probably beat him, 3 years out or not, current tyres or not.

I agree that it's not his age. Michael was fit enough and people said this freed up his mind to think about tactics, but this has been the case for many drivers. Maybe Michael is just very intelligent with tactics/strategy.

**Bononi** · 18 Jul 2010, 15:13 (Ref:2728463)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

And it's depressing for all of us to consider that as we age.

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Originally Posted by Schummy

Mind you, there is people who is surprised that human beings eventually die

Tell me about it...

JeremySmith · 18 Jul 2010, 19:05 (Ref:2728641)

I was wrong..I thought Michael would get the better of Nico..

This post is for all the people who want to say what do you know..told you so, have a go...

My answer is of course "not" very much...

Knowlesy · 18 Jul 2010, 19:18 (Ref:2728654)

Still, just wait until Monaco eh?

JeremySmith · 18 Jul 2010, 19:20 (Ref:2728657)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Still, just wait until Monaco eh?

Put the boot in...

herowassenna · 20 Jul 2010, 13:14 (Ref:2729597)

I'm waiting for Spa, that circuit was always Schumi's personal hunting ground. Even more so than for Kimi...

E.B · 21 Jul 2010, 12:46 (Ref:2730118)

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Originally Posted by herowassenna

I'm waiting for Spa, that circuit was always Schumi's personal hunting ground. Even more so than for Kimi...

Not including 2001 when Kimi was with Sauber, I think Michael only ever beat Raikkonen there once, when he had the dominant car in 2002. Even in the year Michael had the equally dominant F2004 Kimi won, with Michael 2nd and the other (Rubens) Ferrari 3rd.

Michael has about the same chance of winning Spa this year as Kimi does.

Schummy · 24 Jul 2010, 10:04 (Ref:2731622)

Three free sessions in Hock, 3-0 for Rosberg. Normal.

**chunterer** · 24 Jul 2010, 11:32 (Ref:2731640)

I might be breaking the flow here, but anyone with a weak stomach particularly where Schuey is concerned should turn off the Beeb RIGHT NOW!!!! Eurrrgggghhhh

Massa_number1 · 24 Jul 2010, 15:05 (Ref:2731705)

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Originally Posted by chunterer

I might be breaking the flow here, but anyone with a weak stomach particularly where Schuey is concerned should turn off the Beeb RIGHT NOW!!!! Eurrrgggghhhh

are you talking about the interview part? I was actually there while they filmed this as my uncle was taking part (he finished 7th) I can tell you that it was rigged micheal and his horse were easily 0.363 up on the guy who finished first I noticed he also had some brake issues on his horse as he chose the option horse shoes.

but the general feeling among the crowd was he will win it next year

Knowlesy · 24 Jul 2010, 15:45 (Ref:2731714)

Was TGF topless by chance chunty?

E.B · 24 Jul 2010, 19:04 (Ref:2731838)

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Originally Posted by Massa_number1

....but the general feeling among the crowd was he will win it next year

Delusionary and misguided .

**chunterer** · 24 Jul 2010, 19:21 (Ref:2731850)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Was TGF topless by chance chunty?

Not quite but it was a bit misty screen style with him galloping about in slow motion hero style. That Lee M's a good sport, that was cringeworthy!!!!

Thatnks for the heads up on this 'contest' though Massa No 1!

**Adam43** · 24 Jul 2010, 20:21 (Ref:2731887)

There were only six entrants. Nelson Mandela's friend's sister's ex-teacher told me.

Mr V · 25 Jul 2010, 00:21 (Ref:2731979)

Jakes interview with Michael at Silverstone the Lee Mac's bit this week, i expect that Lewis is enjoying the break from the beeb!

ralf fan · 25 Jul 2010, 02:45 (Ref:2731998)

Forget Spa. Forget Monaco.

It is now, just wait until next season.

Schummy · 25 Jul 2010, 03:21 (Ref:2732009)

No! Suzuka will be his grand show! Don't let the fools confuse us. All Mercedes needs is the strong hand of a Marko.

Knowlesy · 25 Jul 2010, 09:44 (Ref:2732075)

Just wait until Texas 20subliminal.

pannenmann · 26 Jul 2010, 00:47 (Ref:2732982)

Micheal did fairly good this race. His start was really nice, he was quick. Well kind of quick, considering the car. If it wasn't for that unfortunate pit strategy he could have done better than Nico for probably the first time. That came kind of unexpected, especially after seeing him in the qualifying.

Schummy · 26 Jul 2010, 00:49 (Ref:2732984)

Updating table of gaps after Germany.

Code:

     Fri1  Fri2  Sat1   Q1    Q2    Q3    FL   Median Score 
BAH  +0.5  +0.5  +0.2  +0.1  +0.4  +0.3  -0.0   +0.3   6-1
AUS  +0.4  -0.4  -0.4  +0.6  +0.1  +0.0  +0.7   +0.1   5-2
MAL  +0.1  +0.2  -0.0  -0.3  +1.0  +1.0  +4.2   +0.2   5-2
CHI  +0.8  +0.1  +0.3  +0.5  +0.6  +0.7  +1.1   +0.6   7-0
SPA  -0.4  -0.5  -0.5  +0.1  -0.3  -0.1  +0.1   -0.3   2-5
MON  -0.6  +0.1  -0.0  +0.5  +0.3  +0.0  -0.4   +0.0   4-3
TUR  -0.1  +0.5  +0.5  +0.1  +0.3  -0.1  -0.2   +0.1   4-3
CAN  -0.1  +0.5  -1.4  +0.2  +0.5  +Inf  +1.7   +0.5   5-2
EUR  +1.1  +0.6  +0.4  +0.2  +0.6   -    -0.9   +0.5   5-1
GBR  +0.6  +0.5  +0.4  +0.4  -0.1  +0.8  +1.2   +0.5   6-1
GER  +5.0  +0.1  +0.4  -0.1  +0.0  +Inf  +0.5   +0.4   6-1
===========================================================
Med  +0.25 +0.35 +0.1  +0.2  +0.35 +0.3  +0.4   +0.3 55-21
Score 7-4   9-2   6-5   9-2   9-2   8-2   7-4   10-1  10-1

Global median gap is now +0.3. The last 4 GPs have been very dominant for Nico (lap time wise). Those 3 "oh-new-long-wheelbase" GPs (SPA, MON, TUR), where Michael was very equal to Rosberg, seem now well in the past.

Where can MS go better? Spa, Suzuka?

Knowlesy · 26 Jul 2010, 16:46 (Ref:2733437)

In his dreams at night.

alc · 26 Jul 2010, 17:10 (Ref:2733470)

Judging by his comments, TGF is envious of Teflonso's ability to call up team orders when he needs them. Does RB have a track record on team orders, and when will we see them deployed in favour of Nico ?

Super Hans · 26 Jul 2010, 17:23 (Ref:2733480)

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Originally Posted by alc

Judging by his comments, TGF is envious of Teflonso's ability to call up team orders when he needs them. Does RB have a track record on team orders, and when will we see them deployed in favour of Nico ?

Jock Clear: Nico, Michael is quicker than you.
Nico: Are you on crack?

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