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"....confirmation...." Yes, confirmation that plans do exist within Toyota. Whether or not those plans ever come to fruition is another matter altogether. Of course, if you feel misled by the thread title and my first post, you have my sincere and heartfelt apologies. Then again, it's all much ado about nothing really, isn't it! ![]() |
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Touche! Monseuir Le Bentley!
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The Toyota engine chief is not happy with F1 plans for KERS: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/65226
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maybe the old TURBINE powered Indy STP Granatilli will return.
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Mauro Forghieri, what a legend.
Yes, Toyota is half-assed in some ways, but it is willing to chop and change in the wrong places, and perserveres still with trulli. Their last le mans effort was pretty similar- almost too much money, and an expectation of victory. |
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I didn't know Mauro Forghieri is currently working for Toyota.
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He is not. Sorry for the confusion. Just read the article I refer to.
Luca Marmorini, the engine chief of Toyota, said the F1 KERS is primitive because it is only allowed to work on the rear wheels. Mauro Forghieri has a similar option. Quote:
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Audi developed FSI in Le Mans and claims that their 6 liter V12 TDI for Q7 is based on the Le Mans engine.
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Indeed Le Mans / endurance racing has, in recent years, bred more relevant technology than F1... but as said, the group C formula was kinda brilliant...
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But any way, not all technology in motor racing is relevant for road cars. Think about most of the aerodynamics (such as ground effects) and tyres (slicks). |
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I see a lot of technology from sportscars coming to our roadcars. Think of Audi's "FSI" fuelinjection system,of carbonceramic brakes,even whole engine designs are being taken over(Porsche GT3 has much in common with the GT1 blocks). At least realtime motorsports as sportscars and WRC DO actually provide our cars with innovative technology. Something which can no more be said from F1. |
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I think the last bit of relevant technology we've seen from F1 is paddle shifters and semi-auto gearboxes. You don't see many road cars with "mass dampers" around.
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Dow came up with a new porous ceramic material for diesel particle filters that has much better properties (lighter, less pressure loss, faster regeneration, ...). They are now showcasing it in Audi R10 and Peugeot 908, and it will find its way in production cars. |
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Any way, I agree that Prototypes are significantly more relevant for road cars than Formula 1 cars. But I'd like to see even more room for relevant innovations. |
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Out of curiosity, by whom? I don't remember.
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Porsche where testing it somewhere in 83-84 IIRC in the 956, or maybe that was a fully automatic box.
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They were testing with the PDK gearbox, which was then used by Walter Rorhl to win the 1985 San Remo on the Audi Sport Quattro S1 Evo. That gearbox is now called DSG in the VAG Group. |
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The 1985 962C used a version 5 speed seq. manual twin clutch(DSG) gearbox, based on that used in the Audi Quattro WRC cars in the mid-80s.
The first seq. manual gearbox was in the Chapperal 2F that ran at Le Mans in 1967. Either that, or it was the first dog clutch non-syncromesh/straight cut gear gearbox(similar to the NASCAR Jerico transmissions, and most road racing gearboxes) |
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