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22 Jun 2009, 14:47 (Ref:2488363) | #51 | ||
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I agree with you.
Fair enough, but the ideas expressed so far have really been in favour of a six hour rather than a relay. BTW, some cars could cope with just one refill anyway. |
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22 Jun 2009, 14:50 (Ref:2488366) | #52 | ||
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Just need a club to get on and organise it then! LOL. And I'd still prefer Anglesey.
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22 Jun 2009, 15:14 (Ref:2488382) | #53 | ||
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As long as there's a decent pub/hotel/restaurant nearby for "afters" I don't really care where it is!
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22 Jun 2009, 16:03 (Ref:2488416) | #54 | ||
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So we're holding it at Spa then?
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23 Jun 2009, 05:37 (Ref:2488764) | #56 | ||
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Yep brilliant idea. Did anyone mention Mondelo Park.Havent been there for a couple of years but allways made very welcome.
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23 Jun 2009, 05:59 (Ref:2488771) | #57 | ||
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How about Rockingham?
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23 Jun 2009, 06:13 (Ref:2488773) | #58 | |
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What about coming over to France? Lots of circuits happy to run classic/endurance events and experienced in doing so. The culture (like Belgium) is much more welcoming to motor sport than at home. I guess it would require a good chunk of sponsorship, but a race on the continent does open up more avenues for raising capital, not least because of the extra entries that it would attract...perhaps talk to French clubs about a partnership?
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23 Jun 2009, 06:52 (Ref:2488779) | #59 | ||
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Hi Mike,
I concur re the continent but then it would possibly mitigate against the "budget conscious clubman" to use Andy's words. Adding in the cost of travel and accommodation does tend to frighten people off. Also let's not forget that this is supposed to be an "alternative 6hrs" which I understand to mean a UK based event. |
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23 Jun 2009, 07:42 (Ref:2488808) | #60 | ||
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Right i recon this is a great idea the first job is too find a sponsor.!!!
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23 Jun 2009, 08:06 (Ref:2488822) | #61 | ||
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It does seem to have legs doesn't it?
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23 Jun 2009, 08:18 (Ref:2488828) | #62 | ||
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Being a pessimist and realistic the downside of all this will be the cost. We pay around £200 for a fifteen minute race so a six hour could come in near £5K, that's more than double the Spa entry so I can't see many people taking it up.
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23 Jun 2009, 08:34 (Ref:2488839) | #63 | ||
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There's a big ecomomy of scale. A quick 'back of an envelope' calculation, bearing in mind that you've got to have qualifying time, would mean a whole day's track and infrastructure cost. I reckon you could do it for an entry fee of comfortably less than £2k.....probably nearer £1.5k but much would depend on entry numbers....I'm assuming between 30 and 40.
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23 Jun 2009, 08:45 (Ref:2488847) | #65 | ||
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Even at a target figure of £1750,that would [dependant on entries]be quite a bit cheaper than the 2500Eu for Spa.All it would need is an interesting circuit,nothing worse than just plugging around and around some boring venue!With 35 cars that gives £61.250,I'm sure there would be enough revenue for the hiring of any UK circuit?
Iain,any chance of you having a word with your mate Ross? |
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23 Jun 2009, 08:50 (Ref:2488850) | #66 | ||
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Time of day is important too. Don't forget you'd have to tack this on to another event so the marshals will be around for a longer time. An evening race of four hours (rather than six) might be better.
People seem to like Angelssey and if it has no noise problems it may well suit. |
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How about setting an upfront entry fee of say £2k. Then, after paying all the costs, including an organiser's fee for the permit holding club, distribute any profit back to the entrants?
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23 Jun 2009, 09:02 (Ref:2488857) | #69 | ||
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Good idea John,as Peter said,there would be some track time available for selling off to other Series as well.This all seems rather familiar,I seem to remember Ms Foulston suggesting that she would be doing something similar when she took over the reigns of BH.
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Before we all get over excited, I just thought I'd refer us all back to the OP as it might be worth developing a consensus on the types of car that are eligible. These things start to take on a momentum of their own and I wouldn't want this to end up as a "Classic Britcar" (with associated bling) fest!! I would be concerned to have the max number of eligible cars compete, but without frightening away the cars/ owners of more "normal" cars.
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23 Jun 2009, 09:10 (Ref:2488860) | #71 | ||
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So then it would need to be decided on what cars would be allowed in.List 1B etc leaves quite a big choice,would it be better to have a control tyre,D98 for example?
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IF it was to be Anglesey, many events seem to get relatively poor grids due to the travel distance for many southern based racers (!). Some clubs run two day meetings there & so have double the expense & risk, however, a 6 hour race with qualifying on one day & a normal race meeting on the second day may be an attractive proposition for some clubs. IF the interest that seems to be being generated here translates to actual entries!! |
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Control tyres could start adding additional cost in my view....unless a company was interested in a one off sponsorship deal. You also have the problem of appropriate tye sizes being available for all cars. Just better to leave the tyre choice relatively wide & let the individual decide what best suits.
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