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I am surprised the reaction most have had on GT1s demise at Le Mans. More so, that the race has not even started!
I think that this is not the best time for the ACO to be transforming the regs like this. I am almost certain there there will be NO Corvette GT2s raced in Europe next year, due to the car's HEFTY price tag. The worlds economy is still hurting and the new rules forces teams not in GT2, to buy brand new cars. GT1 is great for what it is (sprint) however I think they should still be allowed atleast one endurance race a year, whether its Le Mans or Spa. |
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Most people knew that this incarnation of GT1 was coming to an end soon at LM, I think more people were shocked that the ACO allowed SRO's GT1 another year, than the number shocked that GT1 was dropped.
Even the people at Nissan were told that GT1 was on the way out... several years ago. |
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To toss something up, -ignoring the fact it uses GT1's- if the GT1 WC races were the same length as Japan's super GT (300K/400K) would it be more creditable?
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More tidbits on PLM.
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With how upright and blunt the GT-R GT1 is compared to the other cars in the class, do you honestly think it would have stood a chance at Le Mans? With this in mind, do you think they had Le Mans in mind when they designed it?
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I guess not, the thing is a tank. When you compare it to the MC12, it drawfs it.
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But the point isn't to have a sprint class, since Le Mans type races are all enduros. GT2 is being turned into LMGT, with classes for pros/manufactuers and ametuers/privateers in the same cars. You really don't see so many true privateer GT2 teams running AM drivers (why the GT2 Euro Cup failed, right?) so why not just have the privateers/AM's run GT3 cars? Lots of teams that would probalbly be interested. If not full European (and/or possibly International?) seasons, then atleast their national LMS endurance round.
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I like the idea of a 290kph speed limiter as this means cars can run with 500bhp+ like their road going equivalent while still keeping them pegged behind the P1/P2's on the straights.
Allowing Paddle shifts is also a good move. I'm not sure what the evolution rules would allow but GT Endurance PRO sounds very much like a GT2+ class. |
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I'd prefer LMGT over GT Endurance. GT Sprint sounds great but is now a support class of the Italian Superstars, so it won't go. And don't forget that GT4 might also need a new name.
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^ I haven't heard from that car since Spa '09. I'd love to see it come back.
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Since the Matech Ford GT1 was only homologated last year, I think it's good to go through 2013 or 2014.
Sad thing is with the Reiter car, the GT3 Gallardo looks leaner, meaner, and more trim than that GT2. The GT2 just looks like they added fat to the poor beast. Of course, the Murcielago still easily looks better than the Gallardo, in road or racing trim. That comparison of the Reiter GT2 to their GT3 also reminds me of the Ferrari F430. Honestly, the F430 Scuderia GT3 looks decidedly more purposeful than does the F430 GT2. |
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Completely agree. I would be perfectly happy with current GT2 cars/underpinnings with current GT3 aero. If they are going to be the top GT cars, they need to look the part. The Matech Ford GT1 is lightyears beyond the Doran Ford GT2 (as an example) in regards to the way they look. Even the Super Tropheo Gallardos look way better than the "GT2" Gallardo. They need to LOOK RIGHT as well as perform the way the ACO wants. I'm fine with their performance, in fact... just not quite so much with the timid aero and stance.
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I hear that it's quite in vogue these days Bob.
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I still hope that ACO will find a way to allow Matech, Nismo and why not, Audi R8 GT3 and Gallardo GT3 with a "GT Endurance Class kit"
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