How did they name them? - Page 3

Ray Bell · 12 Jun 2001, 12:11 (Ref:104380)

I think it was from the names of the makers. You need to find the Sports Car World article on the car. GS Motor Bodies built them, but i doubt that anyone there today would know... but it might be worth a try.

Brian Lear · 12 Jun 2001, 13:34 (Ref:104421)

Re CANSTEL CLUBMAN

They were built by Specialised Fibreglass Mouldings
at Taren Point. The owner was Graham Steele. The "STEL"
part came from his name. Perhaps "Canstel" just had a good
sound.
Regards
Brian Lear

Ray Bell · 12 Jun 2001, 13:43 (Ref:104423)

Brian, two posts... this is getting extravagant!

And both in the one thread...

GS Motor Bodies had the moulds later on, I'm sure. I recall something about Steve Wiessner and Terry O'Neil and Steve's wife's car... did SFM sell out to GS Motor Bodies?

And don't be shy mate, post a few in some of the other threads...

Luigi · 12 Jun 2001, 21:00 (Ref:104509)

Sorry, Iv'e just come in on the naming game.

During the run up to the launch of MARCH, a well known magazine suggested that it stood for Much Advertized Racing Car Hoax !

An obvious one was Morris Garages, or MG.

Brian Lear · 13 Jun 2001, 12:54 (Ref:104763)

Ray,
Not sure whether Specialised Fiberglass Mouldings sold
the moulds to GS, BUT I certainly wouldnt argue with
your memory.
My info came from my trusty old RCN's of 1969.
Regards
Brian Lear

Ray Bell · 13 Jun 2001, 13:07 (Ref:104769)

Thanks Brian. Now, what other threads are you going to post in so that you can get away from that 'rookie' title?

Maybe you can start a thread about hillclimbing old Coopers?

And there's scope for lots of things in the Road Car Forum.

kabouter · 2 Jul 2001, 14:12 (Ref:112109)

In the posts so far I didn't see Arrows mentioned. I've read two versions of what ARROWS stand for. Some sources claim it is Ambrosio Racing (the sponsor) Rees Oliver Wass Southgate, but I've also seen the version that it stands for Alan Rees Rees (Debbie in this case) Oliver Wass Southgate.
Does anybody know what the right version is?

fines · 2 Jul 2001, 19:24 (Ref:112209)

Franco Ambrosio was involved in the founding, but was jailed soon after. The team always prefered Alan Rees Rees Oliver Wass Southgate, though.

fines · 2 Jul 2001, 19:27 (Ref:112211)

A nice afterthought on Arrows: when Southgate left and was to be replaced by Gustav Brunner, someone proposed to replace the "s" at the end with a "b" at the beginning, making the car a Barrow...

SNH · 4 Jul 2001, 12:29 (Ref:112920)

I think the info on Fodens is incorrect. There were 2 Foden brothers who made steam engined trucks originally. When petrol engines started becoming more popular, oneof the brothers wanted to build petrol trucks. They disagreed & so split, with E(dmund?) R Foden setting up his own company across the road from the original Foden company, (still in business), in Cheshire, England. Both companies still exist, (as part of larger groups). Can't remember which, but one of them only makes trucks to order these days.

Ray Bell · 4 Jul 2001, 13:40 (Ref:112960)

SNH - I understood it was Eric, with the second name possibly Royce. It's a very long time since I read about it, so don't know if my memory is at fault or the article I read it in.

piglos · 8 Jan 2007, 03:10 (Ref:1809252)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Bell

Hewland had lots of them:

Large Gearbox 600
F****** Terrible 200

Anyone know how Mike designated the DG300 and the FG400?

Apparently, the DG designation came when somebody looked over Mike's shoulder as he was doing some draftwork and commented
"That's a Different Gearbox".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray Bell

The FWMV used in the 1.5 Formula surely had some purpose in its lettering... anyone know?

I have read somewhere that it stood for Featherweight Marine Vee (8).

Haine Kane · 14 Jan 2007, 23:00 (Ref:1815293)

I list the french mark who start in the 24 Hours of LE MANS

A.L.D. : Automobiles Louis Descartes

ALPHI : Automobiles du Luart, Poniatowski, Hongardy, Ingénieurs

ALPINE : in the memory of one of the first victory for Jean REDELE

B.N.C. : Bollack Netter et Cie

C.D : Charles Deutsch

D.B. : Deutsch et Bonnet

E.H.P. : Etablissements Henri Précloux

D.F.P. : Doriot Flandrin Parant

F.A.S.T.O. : Fabrication Automobiles ST Ouen

G.M. : Gendron et Michelot

M.A.P. : Manufactures d'Armed de Paris

S.A.R.A. : Société d'Application du Refroidissement par Air

S.C.A.P. : Société de Construction Automobiles de Paris

STHEMO : STriebig HEuclin MÖssinger

V.P. : Vernet Pairard

W.M : Welter et Meunier

W.R. : Welter Racing

and

For LIGIER team JS letters from the memory of Jo Schlesser friend of Guy Ligier.

Jeremy Hall · 17 Jan 2007, 17:46 (Ref:1817765)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitesse

So there might be a connection between Eric Broadley's Lola and the Kinks' song 'Lola' after all!

My understanding was that the original built car had no name but whenever some thing was needed it got it. At the time there was a song with the line ''What Lola wants Lola gets'' and allegedly Mrs Broadley christened the car Lola .... the rest is history.

MGDavid · 17 Jan 2007, 21:26 (Ref:1817922)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Hall

My understanding was that the original built car had no name but whenever some thing was needed it got it. At the time there was a song with the line ''What Lola wants Lola gets'' and allegedly Mrs Broadley christened the car Lola .... the rest is history.

Whatever Lola Wants" is a popular song (sometimes rendered as "Whatever Lola Wants, Lola Gets") written by Richard Adler and Jerry Ross for the musical play Damn Yankees, which opened on Broadway in 1955 and won Tony awards for "Best Musical" and "Best Composer and Lyricist." So it pre-dates The Kinks - was Mrs Broadley American, or just well-travelled? The play was about the Yankees baseball team so probably did not translate to the London theatre...

minijem · 14 May 2007, 19:26 (Ref:1913451)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vitesse

Marcos? Easy!!

Jem MARsh and Mike COStin. As I recall the first Marcos was a Mini-based sports car called the Mini Jem.

A bit late, but this one has to be nailed. Jem Marsh and Frank Costin formed Marcos in 1959. The first cars were the "Ugly Duckling" Marcos GT, and the much nicer Gullwing and Fastback which followed.

The Mini Marcos came along in 1965, after Jem Marsh cancelled Dizzy Addicott's DART project. The latter was taken over by Jem Delmar-Morgan who launched it a year later as the Mini Jem.

Mike Costin was Frank's brother and was the "COS" in Cosworth (with Keith Duckworth).

johnh875 · 15 May 2007, 02:34 (Ref:1913598)

Quote:

Originally Posted by piglos

Quote Ray Bell - FWMV

I have read somewhere that it stood for Featherweight Marine Vee (8).

Correct. Rather than summarise the whole thing, I’ll just give a link to the full run-down: http://www.imps4ever.info/tech/cov_clim.html

The359 · 20 Jul 2007, 00:36 (Ref:1967927)

SARD - Sigma Auto Racing Department

terence · 20 Jul 2007, 05:01 (Ref:1968008)

MG?

D-Type · 21 Jul 2007, 19:27 (Ref:1969356)

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Originally Posted by terence bower

MG?

Cecil Kimber's firm Morris Garage produced a rather nice modified 'Bullnose' Morris. People asked to buy replicas and MG was born.

d-b · 21 Jul 2007, 19:56 (Ref:1969380)

hi there

REO Speedwagon was a 1930's bus

what about the manufacturers who got it wrong?

Edsel
Nissan Cedric
Toyota Picnic
Suzuki Cappuchino
Leyland Titanic(yes its a real one)

any more?

db

John Fielden · 25 Jul 2007, 08:11 (Ref:1972799)

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-b

hi

REO Speedwagon was a 1930's bus

what about the manufacturers who got it wrong?

Edsel
Nissan Cedric
Toyota Picnic
Suzuki Cappuchino
Leyland Titanic(yes its a real one)

any more?

db

STARION?

D-Type · 25 Jul 2007, 20:30 (Ref:1973393)

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Fielden

STARION?

Cororra? Or is it Collolla?

Oh Borrocks!

yellowsubmarine · 26 Jul 2007, 15:59 (Ref:1974127)

When you hear SEAT the first you thing is about a four-wheels engineered chair, but it really means:
Sociedad Española de Técnicos de la Automoción
Translation:
Spanish society of automotive technicians.

Regards

autoavia · 23 Aug 2007, 16:15 (Ref:1995203)

None of the Historic F3 owners seem to have mentioned Mr JA Prestwich - the founder of JAP.
Some Vincents had their crankcases marked HRD for Howard Robert Davies (or was it Davis).
and one of my favourites is DOT motorcycles which stood for Devoid of Trouble. If you look closely at the DOT tank badge it is written around the edge.
Then there is CCM Clews Competition Motorcycles founded by Alan Clews.
I believe Rochdale Motor Panels got their name simply because they were based in Rochdale.
I have an idea that Gilbern and Ginetta are based on amalgamations of parts of the founders names but I don't know the story behind those two.