Sebring '09 - Page 3

HORNDAWG · 9 Dec 2008, 17:57 (Ref:2351129)

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Originally Posted by full throttle

Without speaking too far out of turn, Mike does not 'foot' the bill and the forces that do, purely like to run from a driving standpoint. According to crew chief nothing of real value is learned from a car standpoint. Plus apparently there may be additions for 2009.

Hmm, this will be the first time that the current chassis/engine(TBD) selection will be run by the team at this particular track, right? And nothing can be learned from that? Nothing on set-up, no driver benefits, not a real value?Amazing!

L.P.

full throttle · 9 Dec 2008, 18:10 (Ref:2351141)

You're right. What would they know! I'll pass along your suggestion.

HORNDAWG · 9 Dec 2008, 18:17 (Ref:2351150)

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Originally Posted by full throttle

You're right. What would they know! I'll pass along your suggestion.

You do not have to, Mike is already planning on taking the team, isn't he? Or did I get that wrong too?

L.P.

full throttle · 9 Dec 2008, 18:55 (Ref:2351174)

I've told you they're going and why. If for some reason you have problems with their logic then so be it. cheers.

mazda1 · 10 Dec 2008, 01:24 (Ref:2351425)

2009 Mazda lmp2 program to be announced this week at PRI in Orlando, FL.

WMUCarGuy · 10 Dec 2008, 02:02 (Ref:2351438)

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Originally Posted by mazda1

2009 Mazda lmp2 program to be announced this week at PRI in Orlando, FL.

That's been known for several weeks. I was told the same thing 5 weeks ago at SEMA.

Tom908V12 · 10 Dec 2008, 17:53 (Ref:2351909)

According to a canadian newspaper Jacques Villeneuve would be part of Peugeot team at Sebring next year

mattcat · 10 Dec 2008, 19:09 (Ref:2351964)

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Originally Posted by Tom908V12

According to a canadian newspaper Jacques Villeneuve would be part of Peugeot team at Sebring next year

I hope that pans out.

Aslak Vind · 10 Dec 2008, 19:18 (Ref:2351976)

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Originally Posted by mattcat

I hope that pans out.

So do Dr. Wollfgang Ulrich

Hugewally · 10 Dec 2008, 20:39 (Ref:2352025)

I think they need to stay with the drivers they had at Sebring this year - they're all faster than JV.

cmk · 10 Dec 2008, 20:45 (Ref:2352030)

I wonder how Honda would feel about Montagny racing against Acura at Sebring if he remains in the family as part of AGR's IRL program?

Canada ALMS fan · 11 Dec 2008, 00:10 (Ref:2352199)

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Originally Posted by Tom908V12

According to a canadian newspaper Jacques Villeneuve would be part of Peugeot team at Sebring next year

I'll be first in the autograph line! There are not too many Canadian F1 World Champions

HORNDAWG · 21 Jan 2009, 18:10 (Ref:2376307)

As the Bear has pinched one the color of Sebring Berries, bump.

L.P.

protopuma · 23 Jan 2009, 01:12 (Ref:2377248)

http://greenfuelsforecast.com/Articl...?articleID=681 Regarding Sebring Scott Atherton says "There are two (diesel powered) Peugeots confirmed"

Canada ALMS fan · 23 Jan 2009, 02:06 (Ref:2377272)

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Originally Posted by protopuma

http://greenfuelsforecast.com/Articl...?articleID=681 Regarding Sebring Scott Atherton says "There are two (diesel powered) Peugeots confirmed"

That article contains several nuggets of good news.

Jaguar, Toyota (??), and a third manufacturer seem to be working behind the scenes if this article is correct. Even better news is that it is not all GT.

yamato · 23 Jan 2009, 04:47 (Ref:2377307)

Perhaps the "other alternative" could be thermoelectric waste heat recovery. Some studies say that it could be used to increase fuel economy by about 10%.

This could fill the bill for hybrid systems that are not directed at increased performance, but mainly fuel economy???? Could Toyota have been working on something like this?

carsten66 · 24 Jan 2009, 04:09 (Ref:2378046)

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Originally Posted by protopuma

http://greenfuelsforecast.com/Articl...?articleID=681 Regarding Sebring Scott Atherton says "There are two (diesel powered) Peugeots confirmed"

I think the appearance of Peugeot at Sebring is a must do since the ACO cancelled the LM test days...

Hugewally · 24 Jan 2009, 04:56 (Ref:2378052)

The 3 1000km races before Le Mans are what then?

Purist · 24 Jan 2009, 05:29 (Ref:2378056)

They're long races, and valuable for sure, but definitely NOT the sort of "trial by fire" you get from Sebring: both in terms of the track beating up the car and how much distance and time will be covered.

Hugewally · 24 Jan 2009, 05:32 (Ref:2378057)

My point being, race at Sebring because a test day was canceled?

Audi Racer · 24 Jan 2009, 05:46 (Ref:2378062)

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Originally Posted by Canada ALMS fan

That article contains several nuggets of good news.

Jaguar, Toyota (??), and a third manufacturer seem to be working behind the scenes if this article is correct. Even better news is that it is not all GT.

Some possible manufacturers for the secret LMP car scot atherton mentioned:
Aston Martin
Toyota
Nissan
BMW
Mercedes
Panoz

Considering that Aston Martin, Nissan,Mercedes, and panoz don't seem to have any current endeavors in fuels other than gas for most and diesel for mercedes.

I can see BMW or Toyota

Toyota could come with a gas hybrid.-but that is not a new fuel

BMW and Hydrogen

It's very possible that BMW will come with a Hydrogen Hybrid. It's New fuel and BMW already have the Hydrogen 7 ready to be leased sometime in 2009. BMW seem to have done the most work in Hydrogen power. What other resonable fuel is there. Explosives, Nuclear

I say it's a BMW.

GT2-R · 24 Jan 2009, 13:13 (Ref:2378201)

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Originally Posted by Audi Racer

Some possible manufacturers for the secret LMP car scot atherton mentioned:
Aston Martin
Toyota
Nissan
BMW
Mercedes
Panoz

Considering that Aston Martin, Nissan,Mercedes, and panoz don't seem to have any current endeavors in fuels other than gas for most and diesel for mercedes.

I can see BMW or Toyota

Toyota could come with a gas hybrid.-but that is not a new fuel

BMW and Hydrogen

It's very possible that BMW will come with a Hydrogen Hybrid. It's New fuel and BMW already have the Hydrogen 7 ready to be leased sometime in 2009. BMW seem to have done the most work in Hydrogen power. What other resonable fuel is there. Explosives, Nuclear

I say it's a BMW.

I put my money on a Toyota. They have the knowledge to create a hybrid car and combine it with their ability to create some of the best sportscars. I don't think BMW is working on a proto because their already busy with their F1 and the GT2-project. I think one project in ALMS is enough for BMW, I can't see them working on two new cars for the same championship.

By the way, hydrogen is not that reasonable

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Audi Racer · 24 Jan 2009, 16:54 (Ref:2378290)

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Originally Posted by GT2-R

I put my money on a Toyota. They have the knowledge to create a hybrid car and combine it with their ability to create some of the best sportscars. I don't think BMW is working on a proto because their already busy with their F1 and the GT2-project. I think one project in ALMS is enough for BMW, I can't see them working on two new cars for the same championship.

By the way, hydrogen is not that reasonable

.

Hydrogen is not that reasonable, come to think of it. It is much less dense than Petrol so you could go alot farther on one gallon of Petrol.

Audi Racer · 24 Jan 2009, 17:01 (Ref:2378291)

Then what new feul could there be. I'm starting to think pure Ethanol with a factory GM LMP1 effort.

Bob Riebe · 24 Jan 2009, 19:02 (Ref:2378333)

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Originally Posted by Audi Racer

Hydrogen is not that reasonable, come to think of it. It is much less dense than Petrol so you could go alot farther on one gallon of Petrol.

The factory built Ford Fusion that raced at Bonneville, weighed 6,700 lbs.
(It's base chassis was the equivalent of a GARRA GT)

That was for short speed runs.
Hydrogen is NOT the new fuel.

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