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15 Nov 2011, 05:40 (Ref:2986546) | #51 | ||
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15 Nov 2011, 05:54 (Ref:2986550) | #52 | |
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i agree, but its not abnormal for weird things to happen at this time of the year. apparantly it has come from viewer questions, so might not be anything.
PS just a minor correction/addition, It was Luff who was driving with Ambrose |
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15 Nov 2011, 11:55 (Ref:2986660) | #53 | ||
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15 Nov 2011, 13:34 (Ref:2986698) | #54 | ||
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So who has post race video of JW taking his helmet off after getting out of the car??? Should not be hard to find. Cant believe he would (or his crew would let him) forget to put it on prior to a non enduro (i.e. normal not fast crew change) race. In a previous life I spent many years piloting military aircraft around and trust me if you are used to wearing one under your helmet you WILL notice if you don't have it on, things feel and sound very different!!!
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15 Nov 2011, 18:44 (Ref:2986823) | #55 | |
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15 Nov 2011, 21:16 (Ref:2986924) | #56 | ||
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Wow that looks damning, but it also makes no sense, not hot in Tassie!
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15 Nov 2011, 21:38 (Ref:2986945) | #57 | |
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to me that photo makes the neck look very consistant in colour, like a balaclava is being worn,
could it be just a trick of the light, but hey, V8S would get what they want, a championship going down to the wire |
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15 Nov 2011, 22:05 (Ref:2986957) | #58 | ||
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i believe the footage shows him getting out of the car, looks at something else, then comes back to him after taking off helmet (and potentially balaclava), so is inconclusive.
I also believe there is a similar frame taken from the same sequence as the above frame, from front on, which shows he is wearing a balaclava. but hey, i've been wrong once before |
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15 Nov 2011, 22:11 (Ref:2986964) | #59 | |
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off course there are no gurantees that the above shot is the relevant shot
Axeman, when you say you believe, im assuming that means you have gone back and looked at the footage? as opposed to going from memory? |
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15 Nov 2011, 23:14 (Ref:2986994) | #60 | |||
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it means I believe there is what I mentioned, how i believe that is irrelevant. perhaps i could have more appropriately used the word "understand" instead. I could also say i "know", or something along the lines of "he did wear/he was wearing" etc, but that would be a bit presumptuous, hence why i didn't. |
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16 Nov 2011, 00:03 (Ref:2987014) | #61 | |
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thanks for your simple answer,
just telling me what your belief was based on would have been simply that being see v8 supercars website have released some footage that suggest he was wearing one (its black) Bu that picture above suggest it might not be adequate enough |
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16 Nov 2011, 00:19 (Ref:2987018) | #62 | |
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Here's two by inetpics from the front
http://inetpics.com/showimage.aspx?unid=207160 http://www.v8wire.com/showimage.aspx?unid=207281 Balaclava in his hand? http://www.v8wire.com/showimage.aspx?unid=207161 The Proof! http://www.v8supercars.com.au/champi...6/default.aspx |
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16 Nov 2011, 07:44 (Ref:2987106) | #64 | ||
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So... I always understood that the entirity of the racer driver's person is supposed to be covered in some kind of fire retardant safety equipment, being a race suit, race socks, race suit, balaclava and helmet.
When you look at some of those pics, including bizarrely VESA's "Proof" video snapshot, it is clear that there is a gap around the driver's neck that remains uncovered, despite the other racing paraphernalia in attendance. Should Mr Whincup be the unfortunate victim of a fire in the cabin, the whole of his person is not protected from the flames. In a scenario such as the WA wreck, where both cars had flames in the cabin, arguably the driver would be at risk of injury to have such exposed skin. Presumably there is a CAMS/FIA standard about such things? |
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16 Nov 2011, 09:11 (Ref:2987130) | #66 | |
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two examples of the equipment not being up to scratch now
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You would imagine that this is a serious safety risk... whose role is it to ensure compliance of all equipment to the appropriate CAMS/FIA requirements? |
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16 Nov 2011, 10:28 (Ref:2987150) | #68 | |||
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Normally the balaclava would be long enough to tuck inside the collar of the suit, it did look short. Last edited by sizzle; 16 Nov 2011 at 10:41. |
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16 Nov 2011, 10:48 (Ref:2987159) | #69 | ||
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There's nothing in the compliance that says it has to cover all skin, for all we know it could just be a size too small for him. it did kinda look tapered at the back though.
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16 Nov 2011, 11:04 (Ref:2987169) | #70 | |
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actually mixer from the regulations
3.11 Balaclava hood One-piece garment designed to fit closely over the entire head and to extend downwards to cover the neck. and also 5.3 Balaclava hoods All the part of the balaclava hood seen in frontal projection when the garment is worn shall consist of at least two layers and shall have no more than two apertures, no larger than necessary for normal vision. A supplementary aperture of minimum size for the mouth is permitted. The minimum mass per area of the two layers together shall be = 360 g/m². The lower part shall be designed to extend inside the outer or inner garment all around the neck so that it will not come free whichever way the head is moved. and also Drivers must ensure that garments are not too tight, as this reduces the level of protection |
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