Future Changes

[mabs_nsx]

Originally Posted by Kicking-back

They currently have one race of 180km (approx an hour) on Saturday afternoon, and a second race on Sunday morning which has been 80km (30 mins) but from this weekend onwards will be 120 km (45 mins)

What about practice?

[Kicking-back]

30 mins free practice and 30 mins qualifying.

[mabs_nsx]

What are the Formula superfund and Formula Renault race weekends?

[Kicking-back]

Formula Superfund doesn't exist - it was scrapped due to a lack of interest.

Renault raceweekends feature Renault World Series, Renault Megane Trophy and Formula Renault 2000 Eurocup.

Anyway, this is getting way off topic of F1.


Here's a suggestion of a "Future Change" - watch and enjoy racing for what it is, instead of spending all your time coming up with fantasies about how it could be different

[Skam85]

no mini race. old qually.

and one more thing-if a driver doesnt finish the race, he isnt classified. none of this where it is 1 lap to go and he is running 2nd and retires, yet he still gets classified 6th as he is a lap ahead of 7th. nope. if your car isnt good enough to finish, be it 1 lap or 71 laps, the end result is the same-DNF. guys with reliable cars should be rewarded. (see Hakkinen Spain 2001)

[Kicking-back]

Originally Posted by Skam85

no mini race. old qually.

and one more thing-if a driver doesnt finish the race, he isnt classified. none of this where it is 1 lap to go and he is running 2nd and retires, yet he still gets classified 6th as he is a lap ahead of 7th. nope. if your car isnt good enough to finish, be it 1 lap or 71 laps, the end result is the same-DNF. guys with reliable cars should be rewarded. (see Hakkinen Spain 2001)

That makes no sense - if you retire on lap 71, you've completed 70 laps quicker than a car that takes the flag on lap 70.

Your system would mean a car is "magicked" out of the results...

[Don K]

Originally Posted by mabs_nsx

I would like it to go as follows:
Friday 22 Apr 2005
F1 practive 1.1 9:00 - 10:00
GP2 practive 1.1 10:30 - 11:30
F1 practive 1.2 12:00 - 13:00
GP2 practive 1.2 13:30 - 14:30
F1 practive 1.3 15:00 - 16:00

Saturday 23 Apr 2005
F1 practive 2.1 09:00 - 10:00
GP2 practive 2.1 10:30 - 11:30
F1 practive 2.2 12:00 - 13:00
GP2 Qualifying 13:30 - 14:30
F1 Qualifying 1 15:00 - 16:00
GP2 80km Race 1 16:30 (about 30 minuits)

Sunday 24 Apr 2005
F1 Qualifying 2 9:00-10:00
GP2 80km Race 2 10:30 (about 30 minuits)
F1 410Km Race 14:00 (about 2 hours)

GP2:Suport series to all round of F1 championship

This would force the organisers to drop *all* other support races during the F1 weekend.

Furthermore, costs for GP2 would increase by *a lot*, course your scheme would force them to travel all over the world.


Also, moving saturday qualifying from 13:00 to 15:00 mid-season would not be a smart thing to do.
Most tv-stations will already have other programmes at that (probably more expensive) time.
And they would suddenly have to fill (or sell) the time-slot around 12:45-14:00.
And they would have to re-negotiate the contracts with their advertisers.
etc.

[mabs_nsx]

I would like it to go as follows:
Friday 22 Apr 2005
09:00 - 10:00 F1 Practice 1.1 (1 hour)
10:30 - 11:30 GP2 Practice (1 hour)
12:00 - 13:00 F1 Practice 1.2 (1 hour)
13:30 - 15:30 Local Suport Race
16:00 - 17:00 F1 Qualifying 1 (1 hour)

Saturday 23 Apr 2005
08:00 - 9:00 F1 Practice 2.1 (1 hour)
9:30 - 10:30 GP2 Qualifying (1 hour)
11:00 - 12:00 F1 Practice 2.2 (1 hour)
12:30 - 13:15 120Km GP2 Race 1 (about 45 minuits)
13:45 - 15:30 Local Suport Race
16:00 - 17:00 F1 Qualifying 1 (1 hour)

Sunday 24 Apr 2005
10:00 - 11:00 GP2 180km Race 2 (about 1 hour)
12:30 F1 Drivers Parade
12:45 - 13:15 F1 Starting Grid Presentation
13:30 - F1 Pit Lane Open
13:45 - F1 Pit Lane Closes Grid Formation
13:46 - National Anthem
14:00 - 15:00 F1 410Km Race 14:00 (about 2 hours)

GP2:Suport series to European rounds only

[Don K]

Originally Posted by mabs_nsx

I would like it to go as follows:
Friday 22 Apr 2005
09:00 - 10:00 F1 Practice 1.1 (1 hour)
10:30 - 11:30 GP2 Practice (1 hour)
12:00 - 13:00 F1 Practice 1.2 (1 hour)
13:30 - 15:30 Local Suport Race
16:00 - 17:00 F1 Qualifying 1 (1 hour)

Saturday 23 Apr 2005
08:00 - 9:00 F1 Practice 2.1 (1 hour)
9:30 - 10:30 GP2 Qualifying (1 hour)
11:00 - 12:00 F1 Practice 2.2 (1 hour)
12:30 - 13:15 120Km GP2 Race 1 (about 45 minuits)
13:45 - 15:30 Local Suport Race
16:00 - 17:00 F1 Qualifying 1 (1 hour)

Sunday 24 Apr 2005
10:00 - 11:00 GP2 180km Race 2 (about 1 hour)
12:30 F1 Drivers Parade
12:45 - 13:15 F1 Starting Grid Presentation
13:30 - F1 Pit Lane Open
13:45 - F1 Pit Lane Closes Grid Formation
13:46 - National Anthem
14:00 - 15:00 F1 410Km Race 14:00 (about 2 hours)

GP2:Suport series to European rounds only

OK. So the international support races should be dropped?
And the saturday qualyfying should move to an even more expensive time slot?

[Kicking-back]

mabs_nsx - what's wrong with things at the moment?

You seem to be changing things for changes sake.

[Don K]

Originally Posted by mabs_nsx

14:00 - 15:00 F1 410Km Race 14:00 (about 2 hours)

How are they going to finish a 2 hour race within 1 hour?

[ElScOrChO]

I wonder where Red got this great idea!

[mabs_nsx]

Originally Posted by Don K

How are they going to finish a 2 hour race within 1 hour?

I made a mistake

14:00 - 16:00 F1 410Km Race 14:00 (about 2 hours)

[Pingguest]

Friday
09:00-10:30 Free Practise 1*
11:00-12:00 Free Practise 2*
12:30-12:45 Pre Qualifying Warming-up
13:00-14:00 Qualifying 1**

Saturday
09:00-09:45 Free Practise 3
10:15-11:00 Free Practise 4
12:30-12:45 Pre Qualifying Warming-up
13:00-14:00 Qualifying 2**

Sunday
10:00-10:45 Pre Race Warming-up
13:30-13:50 Pit lane open
13:50-14:00 Starting Procedure
14:00-16:00 Race

*= Teams are allowed to have three drivers, if they limit their testing activities to 20 days.
**= One flying lap qualifying. In Q2 drivers can do a new attempt to improve their lap time. Q1 running order will be the reverse order of the FP2 results. The one engine rule and parc fermé regulations will be abolished.

[mabs_nsx]

Friday
09:00-10:00 Free Practise 1*
12:00-13:00 Free Practise 2*
14:30-14:45 Pre Qualifying Warming-up
15:00-16:00 Qualifying 1**

Saturday
09:00-10:00 Free Practise 3*
12:00-13:00 Free Practise 4*
14:30-14:45 Pre Qualifying Warming-up
15:00-16:00 Qualifying 2**

Sunday
10:00-10:30 Pre Race Warming-up
14:00 - 15:00 Race***



*= Teams are allowed to have three drivers, only if they limit their testing activities to 30 days.
**= In Q1 drivers can complete an unlimited amount of laps over 1 hour. Q2 is the same alowing drivers to attempt to improve on their best Q1 lap time.

***=410Km Race (about 2 hours)

Tyres
-Practice - No Limit
-Qualifying - No Limit
-Race - No Limit

Engines
-Practice - No Limit
-Qualifying - No Limit
-Race - No Limit

What do you think?

[Adam43]

I have a question (BTW I'm in an ad break). Why did you post that 30 odd minutes into a GP?

[mabs_nsx]

Friday
09:00-10:00 Friday Practice 1
12:00-13:00 Friday Practice 2
15:00-16:00 Qualifying

Saturday
09:00-10:00 Saturday Practice 1
12:00-13:00 Saturday Practice 2
15:00 Top 10 Shootout (about 20 minuits)

Sunday
10:30-11:00 Warm Up
15:00 410Km Race (about 2 hours)

Practice-Each practice session runs for 1 hour. Teams are allowed to have three drivers, only if they limit their testing activities to 30 days.

Qualifying-Drivers can complete an unlimited amount of laps over 1 hour.

Top 10 Shootout-The fastest 10 drivers in Qualifying go on to the Top 10 Shootout were they each complete 1 timed lap.

Tyres
Practice - No Limit
Qualifying - No Limit
Race - No Limit

Engines
Practice - No Limit
Qualifying & Race - 1 Engine

Point System
1st=10pts
2nd=9pts
3rd=8pts
4th=7pts
5th=6pts
6th=5pts
7th=4pts
8th=3pts
9th=2pts
10th=1pt

Pole=1pt

This is the points System they will be using in A1GP. I didn't like it when I first saw it but it would keep the Championship very close.

[Knowlesy]

Artificially so.

Although 10 is a nice round number for 1st place.

[Pingguest]

Originally Posted by mabs_nsx

Friday
09:00-10:00 Friday Practice 1
12:00-13:00 Friday Practice 2
15:00-16:00 Qualifying

Saturday
09:00-10:00 Saturday Practice 1
12:00-13:00 Saturday Practice 2
15:00 Top 10 Shootout (about 20 minuits)

Sunday
10:30-11:00 Warm Up
15:00 410Km Race (about 2 hours)

For drivers outside the top 10, the Saturday practices won't be necessary. Or you would give these driver a huge advantage. Driver outside the top 10 would use the saturday practises as a sort of warm-up.