Driver Nico vs Michael - Page 30

E.B · 27 Jul 2010, 03:15 (Ref:2733760)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Super Hans

Jock Clear: Nico, Michael is quicker than you.
Nico: Are you on crack?

Dutton · 27 Jul 2010, 06:13 (Ref:2733809)

Schummy, well, you are awesome. I say this for no other reason than you have saved me so much time in my post-season matrix-fest.

I am unsure from where my interest in matrices emerges, but I have it.

I have this inclination that fractals and matrices, when bound together in an unquestionably tied form, may just offer that elusive ToE.

I have no real justification for this belief, as yet, but yet it kinda makes sense to me. That endlessly self-sustaining nature of matrices just seems to work with fractals.

Yet, I still deny infinity as a possible true reality.

**Born Racer** · 31 Jul 2010, 20:21 (Ref:2736672)

Oh dear. I am increasingly thinking that Nico is rather brilliant and Michael is struggling in the extreme.

Quote:

Norbert Haug, vice-president, Mercedes-Benz Motorsport
"Nico and our team did the maximum they could and achieved the best possible result for us today. Sixth place on the dirty side of the track with less grip is not the ideal place for a good start, but our result could have been worse after we faced some problems in finding the right set-up direction for the cars yesterday. Well done to the team for the recovery. Michael tried a different set-up solution which did not work out in the end. A week at Hockenheim, he was eight-thousands of a second slower than Nico and here the margin is much bigger so we just did not get it right."

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlin...0/7/11102.html And why wouldn't they want to talk about Nico first and foremost? Ross Brawn also seems to be acknowledging that Nico is the one pushing that car to the absolute limits

Quote:

I must compliment Nico on a great job and achieving a strong starting position which is as good as we could have hoped given the performance of the car."

,whilst Michael needs solutions brought to him, because he's not able to drive round his issues with the car:

Quote:

However we didn't find the right solutions for Michael which was not helped by some vibration problems on his last set of tyres in Q2.

Knowlesy · 31 Jul 2010, 23:01 (Ref:2736783)

Just wait until... oh forget it.

Schummy · 1 Aug 2010, 00:13 (Ref:2736817)

Mercedes PR-speak about MS's situation is becoming more and more hilarious. Michael's own declarations are also fascinating. Now he says he gambled on the setup and lost. I suppose he gambled in about 10 of the 12 GPs because he has lost 2-10 in qualifyings.

He appears to have a problem with gambling, he gambled a lot in every type of session or races and he loses in everyone of those stats. The worst thing is gap is not going down, possibly it is growing bigger. The only way I see to heal his situation is dropping Loctite in Nico's engine.

Marbot · 1 Aug 2010, 00:30 (Ref:2736826)

TGF would give anything now to be pounding endlessly around Fiorano on Bridgestones finest. Not going to happen is it Michael?

**Born Racer** · 1 Aug 2010, 01:12 (Ref:2736841)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

Just wait until... oh forget it.

2011?

Spa? Or Spa 2011?

**Bononi** · 1 Aug 2010, 01:21 (Ref:2736846)

A nice way to end his career...

E.B · 1 Aug 2010, 07:18 (Ref:2736964)

Given the length of the track it will on current form only result in the gap between Nico and Michael being larger....
Michaels function is now clearly in my mind more of a PR figurehead whose results are somewhat irrelevant. Now of course the PR is more "when will he see the light and call it a day".

Nico is the one doing a Schu and maximising the car's potential.

**Bononi** · 1 Aug 2010, 14:20 (Ref:2737414)

What else TGF can do now... I hope he retires quietly.

FPV8U · 1 Aug 2010, 14:29 (Ref:2737436)

TGF - 1
Rosberg - 0

For trying to kill people that is..

Mr Pink · 1 Aug 2010, 14:30 (Ref:2737440)

Yeah, his move to fend off Barrichello was horrible.
On german TV he justified his move with the logics that "He got by me so obviously there was enough space". He could have seriously injured or killed the guy!!

Put Heidfeld in the seat..

**Born Racer** · 1 Aug 2010, 14:32 (Ref:2737448)

I think Schumacher's demonstrated that despite 7 titles, he's far from the greatest driver ever.

**Born Racer** · 1 Aug 2010, 14:33 (Ref:2737451)

"Certain drivers have certain views. And then there's Rubens". Hmm.

**Born Racer** · 1 Aug 2010, 14:36 (Ref:2737460)

Oh Norbert. Please stop!

pannenmann · 1 Aug 2010, 14:37 (Ref:2737461)

That guy suffers from a loss of reality that is borderline psychopathic. But it showed quite some time ago, remember also that whenever Alonso got close to him in his last two seasons, he was constantly complaining about oh so dangerous moves. Or Coulthard trying to kill him with his trike.
But when he will finally retire, there's a good replacement available with Vettel.

Oh and anybody else still want to argue as to why even Kov might do better than Schumi after this weekend?

FPV8U · 1 Aug 2010, 14:37 (Ref:2737462)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pink

Yeah, his move to fend off Barrichello was horrible.
On german TV he justified his move with the logics that "He got by me so obviously there was enough space". He could have seriously injured or killed the guy!!

Put Heidfeld in the seat..

For the rest of 2010.. Maybe.

For 2011.. Hell NO!

beau1 · 1 Aug 2010, 14:37 (Ref:2737463)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pink

Yeah, his move to fend off Barrichello was horrible.
On german TV he justified his move with the logics that "He got by me so obviously there was enough space". He could have seriously injured or killed the guy!!

There was enough room. There wasn't a crash. He didn't kill or seriously injure Rubens. Whilst I think the move was somewhat dodgy, I think people are talking about it in the extreme.
Its certainly not the worst move I've seen Michael pull off or Rubens for that matter...

**Born Racer** · 1 Aug 2010, 14:41 (Ref:2737469)

Schumacher has a difficult choice now (if indeed Mercedes give him that choice)- does he leave now or sometime in 2010 and leave with an embarrassing season, or does he stay and possibly get better in 2011 or risk another season failing to be better than Rosberg?

E.B · 1 Aug 2010, 16:33 (Ref:2737540)

I honestly dont believe he has the skillset to beat Rosberg any more. This year or next year.

And Mercedes condoning the move just added another brand to my list of of cars never to buy.

(Ferrari got added last week)

**Born Racer** · 1 Aug 2010, 17:55 (Ref:2737607)

Are you still prepared to buy one of those Red Bull-liveried VWs you sometimes see with the big can on the back?

ljakse · 1 Aug 2010, 18:08 (Ref:2737615)

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Originally Posted by Born Racer

Are you still prepared to buy one of those Red Bull-liveried VWs you sometimes see with the big can on the back?

Over here they use Minis

phoenix · 1 Aug 2010, 18:21 (Ref:2737621)

Maybe Mercedes want Schui for PR purposes - to prove that BIG MERCS RULE - and if one comes up behind you on the motorway, you had better get the hell out of his way before he pushes you off the road. Great Marketing!

(Unless you are driving a Smart Car)

Andy77 · 1 Aug 2010, 19:42 (Ref:2737696)

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Originally Posted by ljakse

Over here they use Minis

This almost equals buying a BMW .... OMG

adamwilkinson · 2 Aug 2010, 07:50 (Ref:2737978)

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Originally Posted by beau1

There was enough room. There wasn't a crash. He didn't kill or seriously injure Rubens. Whilst I think the move was somewhat dodgy, I think people are talking about it in the extreme.
Its certainly not the worst move I've seen Michael pull off or Rubens for that matter...

Exactly!!
He left a cars width plus a fraction more, can clearly see daylight between the wheels and wall. MS was always going to squeeze him, RB should've made MS move right as he did do and then go down the left. Hindsights a wonderful thing though.

I cant help but think that if it had been Senna against someone in exactly the same senario no one would have said anything bad...

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