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A more natural reason could that the trees had to be taken down because of age or illness to ensure nobody would get hurt as the race was on.
The most plausible, are that they were in the way of good TV images. |
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They were felling trees on Tertre Rouge campsite at 8.00am on the Tuesday of raceweek last year, that got a few people out of their tents sharpish
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Pines usually live for a very long time, 100-1000years so I wouldn't say it's age. In the above photos, they've been looked after very well (crown's lifted). Id say it's a safety aspect, mainly due to height as an infection or wind could cause damage. Last edited by YorkshireLad; 2 Feb 2016 at 20:43. |
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Lovely pics, Ayse.
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I agree, it is very sad to see the trees go
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In 2005, there was lot of trees on the Village
Le Mans is not Dubaï, La Sarthe is a wooded région, to cut trees is a damage to our heritage About Arnage, i think campsite and public area belongs to city of Arnage, not ACO. We may publish a common petition to the mayor of this city (and ACO, for Esses, at the same time...) in order to reforest this site after the end of works ? A pine costs 10 euros, it's not very expensive for a city... Last edited by Michel Vaillant; 4 Feb 2016 at 18:12. |
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Planting new trees has happened out at Tertre Rouge but over the years i have seen loads of trees planted but few survive, either broken down by people, supports nicked and burnt or more often the ACO cuts them down within a few years
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I'd be happy to donate a 10 Euros towards some new trees. If it was official with the relevant authority maybe it would last?
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Why do I have a feeling that this years TenTenths meeting will involve tree planting!?
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As I've said, on the long run the circuit aesthetics and purity are doomed. Doom caused by lust. The first phase of this has already happened by the last few years, and it will get Silverstone "qualities" in ten years time if not sooner. But at least everything else about the race is still great.
And we'll always have unaltered Nordschleife. As long as it gets financed and not thrown to chaos anyway. It will be the last stalwart of great European circuits left almost entirely to it's original intention. |
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'Davidson stressed that it was important that the challenge of the circuit at Le Mans was retained through the on-going safety improvements.
"What I wouldn't want to see is more asphalt run-off there, because we have got to keep the heritage of the place," he said.' Well said, Ant! http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122742 |
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Le Mans roads to stay closed between 24 Hours practice/qualifying
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Plus there will have been no end of deforestation at Arnage to put the new road section in...
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Davidson speaks like the true racer he always was. We need more of him in the sport
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Agreed, Simon. That's horrendous news, as it puts enormous pressure on the back roads to the east of the circuit and on villages like Mulsanne and Ruaudin.
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Wanted to add my thoughts to some of the above comments. I agree completely with Davidison about the run-off areas. Of course safety improvements can be made, but what makes Le Mans unique for me is the same basic layout and feel of the place. I went to Silverstone for the first time last year to watch the WEC, great race and facilities but was amazed at how sterile it felt when compared to Le Mans.
Also very surprised about the road closures in the race week. It has always impressed me how quickly they re-open the roads and the last thing I want is for the local people to get more annoyed with the ACO. The race and we spectators are guests in this lovely place and we need to all find a way to get along. Finally, in response to Chiana and the Nordschleife, it is worth viewing some of the 1960s and early 70s footage on Youtube. It's amazing how areas now surrounded by trees were once virtually bare. Nothing stays the same, but actually some things can get better as well as worse. |
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I think in places Le Mans looked rather barren and sorry in post-war period too, but quickly flourished by the following decades. Now it's getting to the state of being ripped down again, albeit slowly, due to hand of man. With Nordschleife, the effect seems (mostly) the opposite. Even just couple of hundreds years ago, even the most populous human settlements and cities were surrounded by vast forests and valleys full of untamed wildlife. Now the forests, the little there are, are surrounded by human creations. |
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Is it open Thursday morning? I'm guessing it's just closed between either part of each evening event. The worst traffic problem is getting into parking blanc. They only open the top gates for in and out traffic, plus they park disabled badge holders on the entrance which led to a grid lock last year. Was a fecking nightmare!! |
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I had never met a problem with parking blanc since I have tried to arrive at the less busy time (at least two hours before practice or before 8:30 on saturday). Before leaving after the race, I usually sleep one or two hours, duration which allows the evacuation of most cars.
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2:30am Sunday morning was horrendous! (Least likely time I'd of thought)
Yeah we get there 8ish on Saturday and Sunday morning, it's hard getting out I've found, I don't see why they don't just open the gates to the bottom near bleu. |
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