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20 Mar 2023, 13:22 (Ref:4148457) | #76 | ||
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race was not a great one and them F1 made it worse with thier attempts to change the result why oh why do they continue to shoot themselves in the foot with these silly and pointless stewards penalties
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20 Mar 2023, 13:26 (Ref:4148461) | #78 | ||
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So does not overly penalizing Alonso.
And so did the full course Saftey instead of a VSC. Everything about this venue is about entertainment from the lights in the sky to the action on track….certainly can appreciate criticisms against on that level. |
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20 Mar 2023, 13:28 (Ref:4148463) | #79 | ||
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20 Mar 2023, 13:28 (Ref:4148464) | #80 | ||
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I will put any further comments regarding the rules mess ("working on the car") in the FIA thread which is actively discussing that topic. Richard |
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20 Mar 2023, 15:12 (Ref:4148483) | #82 | |
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He might not have been happy to see Max finish second, but at least he shook Perez' hand:
https://twitter.com/Ad8ya_004/status...416715776?s=20 (And for the record I don't really care about Jos either way, but at the same time I really dislike people getting dumped on for the wrong reasons.) |
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20 Mar 2023, 15:36 (Ref:4148490) | #84 | ||
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20 Mar 2023, 16:16 (Ref:4148496) | #85 | ||
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I think hands are out from both pretty much at the same time....? But whatever.....
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20 Mar 2023, 17:02 (Ref:4148507) | #86 | ||
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Then in 2022, the cars changed to make it far easier to follow closely (an excellent move), but the DRS has been left exactly as it was with the old cars, and as a result overtaking is so easy nowadays that it is ruining the racing. Over the last two years we have had multiple occasions (Hungary, Spa, Monza last year and Jeddah this year), where the fastest driver on the grid was stuck in the midfield and was going to be fighting his way to the front, and rather than watching a series of outstanding passes and a potentially brilliant win or podium, he has just breezed pass every car with ease, and a fightback has become uninteresting. Maybe a few more things need to change on the cars for 2024 in order to make it even easier to follow the car in front, but DRS should be scrapped entirely for next year, in my opinion. For the current year, it would be too big a change to scrap it mid-season, but considering they mess with the zones during the season all the time I don't think it would be unreasonable to halve the length of most DRS zones on the calendar right now. |
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20 Mar 2023, 18:35 (Ref:4148520) | #87 | ||
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I entirely agree. (But I'd scrap it immediately)
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20 Mar 2023, 19:18 (Ref:4148531) | #88 | ||
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the dirty air/close following is of course an issue, but for passing to happen there also needs to be a fairly substantial speed difference between the following car and the lead car in order to affect a pass.
now that the grid becomes closer in terms of lap times, there then has to be a concern that without DRS, the following car will not be able to achieve that speed difference required to affect a pass even against a slower leading car. you then add in this seemingly never ending supply of street circuits with no room no flow no rhythm and you may just end up with something far more processional then we had pre DRS era. |
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20 Mar 2023, 20:46 (Ref:4148539) | #89 | |
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This is the race that should not be, but thanks to Fernando I actually only fast forwarded the last ten laps!
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20 Mar 2023, 22:07 (Ref:4148555) | #90 | ||
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I appreciate it's a circular argument that's been going on for years, but DRS just isn't the answer....
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20 Mar 2023, 22:14 (Ref:4148558) | #93 | ||
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Jos is a giant flog but it's wild we're debating a couple of stills where he has what they refer to as "resting b... face" (am I allowed to say that anymore?) but still clearly congratulates Checo and is as sportsmanlike in 'defeat' as you'd expect Jos to be.
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20 Mar 2023, 22:31 (Ref:4148564) | #94 | ||
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I didn't see that on the video that the stills are taken from. He ignores Checo in moving pictures too...
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20 Mar 2023, 22:39 (Ref:4148565) | #95 | ||
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That change empasized aero because no one wanted to give up cornering speed and radically change design toward mechanical grip rather than aero generated grip. That played straight into RBR hands. That the change tilted the advantage back toward them was almost a consequence because in the era prior to that hybrid engine they had an extreme aerodynamic advantage taking four titles in a row. Now we have a set of regulations that amplifies the understanding and development of aerodynamic flow and downforce in minute detail. RBR have been the best at that for 15 years, and Newey was the acknowledged guru on that before RBR grew out of Jaguar Racing. No one should be surprised at what has happened and the advantage RBR has. They will be the most dominant team in this era. Others may get close or beat them occasionally, but I wouldn't be surprised if this current dominance lasts through 24-and 25. What happens in 26 will depend on the way the regulations are written and what loopholes or parameters define F1 design. |
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I'm sure commercially it's great, the exposure it gets for the Netflicks lovers will be huge but motorsport fans who actually care about the integrity of the sport have been alienated. All while drivers aren't allowed to express their opinions, the debate about an ear ring is bigger than the debate about racing in Saudi. If you can't see the bigger issues here I feel sorry for you. Stick to Netflicks |
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21 Mar 2023, 07:02 (Ref:4148593) | #98 | ||
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I have now seen that one too.
To me, it looks like Checo goes to his team and everyone except for Jos makes an effort to congratulate him, with clear signs of jubilation. On this pass, Jos 'blanks' him. Then, Checo starts to break from the hugs and is ready to move away, at which point a few handshakes are exchanged including a reciprocal one with Jos. Do I think Jos was upset about Checo winning - yes. Do I think he let that feeling show - yes. Do I think he then gave a moment of recognition - yes. |
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And can huge exposure from Netflix not also mean those same viewers are motorsport fans? Or does being a 'motorsport fan' and wanting commercial success for F1 have to be exclusively separate? |
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21 Mar 2023, 07:19 (Ref:4148596) | #100 | ||
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Look - it was a terrible race, hence we have debates about weird stewarding and feisty fathers. Hopefully we get a decent race next time, and then we have something posative to discuss (although it is the Australian and Azerbijan GPs next, so we might have to wait a bit longer yet for a decent reace). There were plenty of good races last season, and hopefully we get some this time around too.
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