IMSA Race 2023 IMSA SportsCar Weekend Road America

[Ferrari333SP]

You know you have crappy BoP when you have both Daniel Juncadella and Jules Gounon, yet you keep losing time to both the Aston and the Corvette

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by J Jay

I don't think it's strategy - even a stop under yellow would lose track position.

I meant more that if they thought yellows then they would save fuel and make it.

However, based on the fully green second stint length they will easily make it anyway.

#7 took left-side tyres.

Thank you.
It’s not an issue so far. It is maintaining that gap.

[fergus_r]

Maybe they just need Raffaele Marciello in the #79.

[Adam43]

Slowly Blomqvist is catching Nasr. Probably not quick enough…

[J Jay]

Originally Posted by Adam43

It’s not an issue so far. It is maintaining that gap.

It is falling slowly, but at the rate of closing (assuming traffic evens out), Blomqvist will still be ~1.5 seconds away from the lead.

[Adam43]

Snap!

[J Jay]

Very slow lap in traffic from Nasr, Blomqvist now within two seconds.

[Adam43]

[J Jay]

Looks to be secure for Nasr ... but he is coming up to the battling #6/#93...

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by J Jay

Looks to be secure for Nasr ... but he is coming up to the battling #6/#93...

Who have suddenly pulled 2s on the 1st and 2nd! Presumably just the traffic.

[seanyb505]

Looks like game over there

[Adam43]

Tom just falling behind now.

Edit: Porsche wins Road America.

[J Jay]

Very well executed from the #7 crew, despite late pressure they always looked in charge.

A word for BMW though...

[Adam43]

That was good. The 2:19 of green running at the end let us see two full stints.

Interesting that Porsche decided to only change two tires at the end so that they still had some warm tires as they left the pit. Not sure I’ve seen that before.

[Enduranceracer]

Perfect execution for the #7 today. Great to see. Congrats Porsche Penske!!!

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by joeb

Looks like Sims crashed and warm up and nearly didn't get the 31 to the grid. Instead of starting from pole, they are starting from the back of the field

Caught up after the Indy race and farmers market delay. Didn't he also have a LM issue? Not a great season going

[broadrun96]

I saw the drive thru penalty come up for 3, did they serve it or just drop behind the 23 as penalty. They were ahead by 8ish seconds and then behind by only 10 with 23 min to go, thought pit lane drive thru was longer than that. Looks like another stop threw them way back so answers that. And seems like the disallowing short fill if you only need X amount of fuel is a pointless rule. Needs to be flow rate only and then let em short it if they want.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by broadrun96

I saw the drive thru penalty come up for 3, did they serve it or just drop behind the 23 as penalty. They were ahead by 8ish seconds and then behind by only 10 with 23 min to go, thought pit lane drive thru was longer than that. Looks like another stop threw them way back so answers that. And seems like the disallowing short fill if you only need X amount of fuel is a pointless rule. Needs to be flow rate only and then let em short it if they want.

I was wondering that. WEC seem to have a decent approach to it.

[Adam43]

Lap time spread in LMP3 class and the battle of the top 2 finishers in the class.

Laps ranked by Top 20 average:
Average Lap time

Rank	Car	Fastest	Top 10	Top 20	Top 40
1	30 Ligier Jr III Racing	1:58.894	1:59.131	1:59.281	1:59.791
2	74 Ligier Riley	1:59.026	1:59.350	1:59.629	2:00.265
3	33 Ligier Sean Creech Motorsport	1:58.566	1:59.344	1:59.700	2:00.322
4	17 Duqueine AWA	1:58.831	1:59.269	1:59.749	2:00.833
5	85 Duqueine JDC Miller MotorSports	1:58.941	1:59.468	1:59.791	2:00.553
6	13 Duqueine AWA	1:59.062	1:59.582	1:59.972	2:00.599
7	29 Ligier Jr III Racing	1:59.551	1:59.982	2:00.355	2:01.465
8	4 Ligier Ave Motorsports	2:00.779	2:01.351	2:01.713	2:02.608

#30 fastest here, but 4th in class. It had the penalty for the contact with the #85.

[Adam43]

Average Lap time

Rank	Car	Fastest	Top 10	Top 20	Top 40
1	11 TDS Racing	1:51.913	1:52.520	1:52.962	1:54.102
2	8 Tower Motorsports	1:52.034	1:52.430	1:53.030	1:54.240
3	18 Era Motorsport	1:52.396	1:52.915	1:53.319	1:55.152
4	04 Crowdstrike Racing by APR	1:51.846	1:52.830	1:53.453	1:54.742
5	35 TDS Racing	1:52.571	1:53.289	1:53.845	1:54.957
6	52 PR1 Mathiasen Motorsports	1:52.685	1:53.548	1:54.083	1:54.966
7	20 High Class Racing	1:53.068	1:53.444	1:54.110	1:55.125

The drop off in the spread seems more than other races. Am I imagining this? I will look back later...

Interestingly the Top 2 finishers are 5th and 6th in the lap rankings above. It felt like it was #52's race from the start.

[joeb]

Caught up with this race a couple hours after it finished. Overall, it was quite good and was so glad to see minimal yellow flag running. That's not to say the P3 class didn't make an effort of it. There were numerous off track excursions that luckily ended up with cars continuing. This is something that gets missed with this class is that they don't always cause the cautions but they are off track a lot, sometimes it gets picked up on camera and sometimes you're at track and just see them causing problems non-stop that never gets broadcast. I'd like to think next. You will be so much better, but with the same or an increased number of cars it's still going to be carnage! Not complaining about the increased grid size. Looking forward to it actually.

[Adam43]

Average Lap time

Rank	Car	Fastest	Top 10	Top 20	Top 40	Class
1	23 Aston Martin	2:04.441	2:04.837	2:05.104	2:05.523	GTDPRO
2	3 Chevrolet	2:04.818	2:05.086	2:05.255	2:05.517	GTDPRO
3	70 McLaren	2:04.089	2:04.948	2:05.303	2:05.671	GTD
4	78 Lamborghini	2:04.599	2:05.011	2:05.308	2:05.763	GTD
5	97 BMW	2:04.968	2:05.171	2:05.402	2:05.779	GTD
6	93 Acura	2:05.105	2:05.233	2:05.412	2:05.699	GTD
7	79 Mercedes-AMG	2:04.859	2:05.176	2:05.452	2:05.920	GTDPRO
8	1 BMW	2:05.088	2:05.368	2:05.501	2:05.729	GTD
9	9 Porsche	2:05.272	2:05.450	2:05.603	2:05.904	GTDPRO
10	14 Lexus	2:05.298	2:05.473	2:05.610	2:05.854	GTDPRO
11	91 Porsche	2:05.066	2:05.378	2:05.611	2:06.034	GTD
12	66 Acura	2:05.155	2:05.443	2:05.674	2:06.056	GTD
13	80 Porsche	2:04.443	2:05.301	2:05.706	2:06.194	GTD
14	32 Mercedes-AMG	2:05.517	2:05.665	2:05.837	2:06.113	GTD
15	12 Lexus	2:05.337	2:05.685	2:05.845	2:06.069	GTD
16	96 BMW	2:05.620	2:05.848	2:05.958	2:06.177	GTD
17	27 Aston Martin	2:05.352	2:05.813	2:05.962	2:06.261	GTD
18	77 Porsche	2:05.574	2:05.987	2:06.289	2:06.650	GTD
19	92 Porsche	2:06.187	2:06.447	2:06.559	2:06.863	GTD
20	57 Mercedes-AMG	2:06.411	2:12.841	NA	NA	GTD

Spread charts show all GTDPRO and also the best from each manufacturer in GTD.

Battle charts are Top 4 finishers of all GTs and another that shows the winner and the Corvette #3. These two had the best consistent lap times.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by joeb

Caught up with this race a couple hours after it finished. Overall, it was quite good and was so glad to see minimal yellow flag running. That's not to say the P3 class didn't make an effort of it. There were numerous off track excursions that luckily ended up with cars continuing. This is something that gets missed with this class is that they don't always cause the cautions but they are off track a lot, sometimes it gets picked up on camera and sometimes you're at track and just see them causing problems non-stop that never gets broadcast. I'd like to think next. You will be so much better, but with the same or an increased number of cars it's still going to be carnage! Not complaining about the increased grid size. Looking forward to it actually.

Lots of green and, as you say, lots of excuses to call FCY but they never did.

[Adam43]

Average Lap time

Rank	Car	Fastest	Top 10	Top 20	Top 40
1	10 Acura	1:49.676	1:50.031	1:50.341	1:50.970
2	60 Acura	1:49.794	1:50.215	1:50.499	1:51.012
3	7 Porsche	1:49.805	1:50.167	1:50.539	1:51.118
4	6 Porsche	1:50.034	1:50.495	1:50.754	1:51.275
5	5 Porsche	1:50.090	1:50.467	1:50.987	1:51.572
6	01 Cadillac	1:50.115	1:50.508	1:51.010	1:51.555
7	59 Porsche	1:50.602	1:50.961	1:51.230	1:51.800
8	31 Cadillac	1:50.614	1:50.931	1:51.255	1:51.935
9	24 BMW	1:49.923	1:50.860	1:51.275	1:52.527
10	25 BMW	2:01.135	NA	NA	NA

Acura had the pace, as the spread table and charts show, but the battle showed that Porsche stayed up front.

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by joeb

Caught up with this race a couple hours after it finished. Overall, it was quite good and was so glad to see minimal yellow flag running. That's not to say the P3 class didn't make an effort of it. There were numerous off track excursions that luckily ended up with cars continuing. This is something that gets missed with this class is that they don't always cause the cautions but they are off track a lot, sometimes it gets picked up on camera and sometimes you're at track and just see them causing problems non-stop that never gets broadcast. I'd like to think next. You will be so much better, but with the same or an increased number of cars it's still going to be carnage! Not complaining about the increased grid size. Looking forward to it actually.

Remember they've always said more cars equals carnage at Petit and half the time the big fields have run cleaner, when the track doesn't come apart at T3.