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11 Sep 2004, 21:15 (Ref:1093246)
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32 cars started at Mid Ohio in 1993 or 94.
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11 Sep 2004, 23:51 (Ref:1093345)
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Two CART events started 37 cars.
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12 Sep 2004, 16:55 (Ref:1094216)
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I hope for 2005 there will be 20+ grids.
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12 Sep 2004, 17:59 (Ref:1094288)
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If we can get 20 solid entries, that would be great.
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13 Sep 2004, 17:05 (Ref:1095360)
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15 Sep 2004, 00:00 (Ref:1096869)
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Update:
Latest from the Grapevine has it that Paul Gentilozzi is going all out in trying to get Memo Gidley in Champ Car full-time for next year and PG's recent talks with John Menard may result in either MCT Racing coming over with a new team for Gidley or Rocketsports will run a third car in Menards livery colors. On a related note, we all know that David Besnard will be in a third PKV car (or subbing for Gonzo) at Surfers Paradise, and now there's talk that we might see Andrew Ranger at the Mexico City race either in PKV's car #22 or Walker's car #15... there's also talk of Rafael Martinez being in the same shoes (ie: one of those rides) and Alex Sperafico is also being considered by Walker... btw, Walker's sponsorship for the one-off in Mexico supposedly comes from MasterCard of Mexico... Here's how the line-up scenario for next year looks like now: 1. NEWMAN/HAAS - #1 - Sebastien Bourdais 2. NEWMAN/HAAS - #2 - Cristiano DaMatta 3. NEWMAN/HAAS - #6 - Bruno Junqueira 4. FORSYTHE - #3 - Paul Tracy 5. FORSYTHE - #7 - Rodolfo Lavin or Rafael Martinez or Luis Diaz or Homero Richards 6. WALKER - #5 - Mario Haberfeld or Brian Sellers 7. WALKER - #15 - Michael Valiante or Jonathan Macri or Andrew Ranger or Rafael Martinez 8. WIGGINS - #4 - Ryan Hunter-Reay 9. WIGGINS - #55 - Mario Dominguez 10. COYNE - #11 - Oriol Servia or Michael Keohane or Tomas Enge 11. COYNE - #19 - Gaston Mazzacane or Jaime Melo or Ralph Firman or Andrew Ranger 12. BACHELART - #14 - Nelson Philippe or Mario Haberfeld or Ricardo Sperafico or Memo Gidley or Patrick Carpentier or Bas Leinders 13. BACHELART - #34 - Justin Wilson 14. KALKHOVEN - #12 - Jimmy Vasser or Patrick Carpentier 15. KALKHOVEN - #21 - Roberto Gonzalez or Rafael Martinez or Homero Richards 16. GENTILOZZI - #8 - Alex Tagliani 17. GENTILOZZI - #17 - Guy Smith or Michael Valiante or Memo Gidley or Andrew Ranger 18. RUSSO - #9 - Michel Jourdain 19. RUSSO - #10 - AJ Allmendinger Possible new entries in 2005: 20. BACHELART - #24 - Bas Leinders or Memo Gidley or Andrew Ranger 21. FITTIPALDI - #20 - Ricardo Sperafico or Mario Haberfeld or Jaime Melo or Ricardo Zonta or JP.DeOliveira or Tiago Monteiro 22. KALKHOVEN - #22 - Christian Murchison or Josh Hunt or David Besnard 23. LEBERLE - #33 - Ralph Firman or Patrick Carpentier or Jos Verstappen or Bas Leinders or Tomas Enge 24. MENARD - #18 - Memo Gidley or Jeff Simmons or Mark Taylor Longshot entries for 2005: 25. NUNN - #30 - Felipe Giaffone or Alex Barron 26. SIERRA - #26 - Andrew Ranger or Ryan Dalziel 27. GRAJEWSKI - #24 - André Lotterer or Pierre Kaffer 28. JENSEN - #23 - David Sterckx or Eric Jensen 29. PROST - #27 - Jacques Villeneuve or Jonathan Cochet 30. PROST - #28 - Nicolas Prost or Franck Montagny 31. CONDOR - #31 - Jon Fogarty or Townsend Bell 32. CONDOR - #32 - Marc Hynes or Brian Sellers 33. DYSON - #16 - Chris Dyson or Gunnar Jeannette 34. HEMELGARN - #91 - Townsend Bell or Jaime Melo btw, for an updated picturesque version of the current line-up and the next year's possibilities -> go to www.champcarfan.com and click on the "Line-Up" thingy ?! |
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15 Sep 2004, 01:43 (Ref:1096904)
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who's condor and dyson?
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15 Sep 2004, 02:14 (Ref:1096917)
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15 Sep 2004, 02:23 (Ref:1096919)
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The reason the series has primarly good worthy drivers this year is because the subsidization was setup to support drivers rather than teams. I'd like to see this practice continue next year but for new drivers or get behind ladder series drivers like Fogarty, Valiente, Ranger, Dalziel and indeed even Danica. Wouldn't it be great if the OWRS guys lured Danica away from Rahal?
Hopefully as the silly season rolls on we'll see this start to happen.
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15 Sep 2004, 02:36 (Ref:1096929)
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Like Valiante, many of those Atlantic drivers you just mentioned, Snrub, will never get a shot at a ride in ChampCar unless they bring enough money with them.
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16 Sep 2004, 15:47 (Ref:1098391)
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Dov, you can erase Jacques Villenueve from your list. He signed yesterday with Sauber for 2 years.
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20 Sep 2004, 21:43 (Ref:1102452)
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Update:
Latest from the Grapevine has it that Mario Haberfeld is currently negociating his contract with Walker for next year... also, F3000 champion Vitantonio Liuzzi has told the Italian Autosprint magazine that should he not get a ride in F1 next year (not a test role) then he'll definitely look into Champ Car ?! Here's how the line-up scenario for next year looks like now: 1. NEWMAN/HAAS - #1 - Sebastien Bourdais 2. NEWMAN/HAAS - #2 - Cristiano DaMatta or Vitantonio Liuzzi 3. NEWMAN/HAAS - #6 - Bruno Junqueira 4. FORSYTHE - #3 - Paul Tracy 5. FORSYTHE - #7 - Rodolfo Lavin or Rafael Martinez or Luis Diaz or Homero Richards or Patrick Carpentier 6. WALKER - #5 - Mario Haberfeld 7. WALKER - #15 - Michael Valiante or Patrick Carpentier or Jonathan Macri or Rafael Martinez or Brian Sellers 8. WIGGINS - #4 - Ryan Hunter-Reay 9. WIGGINS - #55 - Mario Dominguez 10. COYNE - #11 - Oriol Servia or Michael Keohane or Tomas Enge or Jon Fogarty 11. COYNE - #19 - Gaston Mazzacane or Jaime Melo or Ralph Firman or Andrew Ranger 12. BACHELART - #14 - Nelson Philippe or Ricardo Sperafico or Memo Gidley or Patrick Carpentier or Bas Leinders 13. BACHELART - #34 - Justin Wilson 14. KALKHOVEN - #12 - Jimmy Vasser or Patrick Carpentier or Cristiano DaMatta 15. KALKHOVEN - #21 - Roberto Gonzalez or Rafael Martinez or Homero Richards or Rodolfo Lavin 16. GENTILOZZI - #8 - Alex Tagliani 17. GENTILOZZI - #17 - Guy Smith or Michael Valiante or Memo Gidley or Vitantonio Liuzzi 18. RUSSO - #9 - Michel Jourdain 19. RUSSO - #10 - AJ Allmendinger Possible new entries in 2005: 20. BACHELART - #24 - Bas Leinders or Memo Gidley or Ricardo Sperafico 21. FITTIPALDI - #20 - Ricardo Sperafico or Jaime Melo or Ricardo Zonta or JP.DeOliveira or Tiago Monteiro 22. KALKHOVEN - #22 - Christian Murchison or Josh Hunt or David Besnard 23. LEBERLE - #33 - Ralph Firman or Patrick Carpentier or Jos Verstappen or Bas Leinders or Tomas Enge or Vitantonio Liuzzi 24. MENARD - #18 - Memo Gidley or Jeff Simmons or Mark Taylor or Jon Fogarty Longshot entries for 2005: SIERRA - Andrew Ranger or Ryan Dalziel or Jon Fogarty NUNN - Felipe Giaffone or Alex Barron JENSEN - David Sterckx or Adam Pecorari PROST - Nicolas Prost and/or Jonathan Cochet CONDOR - Jon Fogarty and/or Marc Hynes or Brian Sellers DYSON - Gunnar Jeannette or Chris Dyson HEMELGARN - Townsend Bell or Jaime Melo btw, for an updated picturesque version of the current line-up and the next year's possibilities -> go to www.champcarfan.com and click on the "Line-Up" thingy ?! |
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20 Sep 2004, 22:09 (Ref:1102484)
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Dov, kinda doubt that Tagliani will survive at his salary with Gentilozzi.......rumor around that Johnson Controls is out, maybe immediately and certainly for next year. That leaves Gentilozzi with needing pay drivers.
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20 Sep 2004, 23:11 (Ref:1102512)
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Looks like it is time for a Gentlemen's CLub sponsorship for PG.
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21 Sep 2004, 05:29 (Ref:1102608)
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With three Canadian drivers, all in the top-5 and one a defending champion, I find it extremely frustrating that Canadian companies are not stepping forward.
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21 Sep 2004, 12:51 (Ref:1102848)
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Doesn't MCT stand for Menard-Cheever Technologies? Does Eddie Cheever still have any involvement in the project?
I like your style here - whenever a drive rmakes a vague comment linking hismelf to ChampCar, you add him to hafl a dozen teams, even if there are logistical issues such as that team already having a driver signed, or needing a paying driver. |
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21 Sep 2004, 13:51 (Ref:1102895)
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If you link every driver there is to every team there is, it means whenever any deal happens you can say "just as I predicted"!
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21 Sep 2004, 14:30 (Ref:1102926)
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Boots, if you want your question answered then you can go over to ChampCarFan.com and ask zerO because all of these line-ups are from his website.
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21 Sep 2004, 14:34 (Ref:1102927)
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Btw, you guys should remember that the "Silly Season" is supposed to be fun, so imo this thread should not be taken so seriously.
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21 Sep 2004, 14:40 (Ref:1102932)
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21 Sep 2004, 14:53 (Ref:1102938)
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21 Sep 2004, 15:26 (Ref:1102960)
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No.
MCT now stands for Menard Competition Technology. |
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21 Sep 2004, 15:38 (Ref:1102969)
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Tomas Enge is listed as a possible driver for Dale Coyne and for Leberle...
He will be driving for Patrick racing in the final two events of the 2004 season in place of Jacques Lazier, and the word on the street is that he will also occupy that seat for 2005.... |
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21 Sep 2004, 15:45 (Ref:1102973)
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Thanks KB. I didn't think Undera-Cheever would be switching over, but with Liuzzi in the running it seemed possible that they all would with Red Bull money.
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21 Sep 2004, 15:48 (Ref:1102975)
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I don't think Liuzzi will be in Champ Car.
A lot rests on whether the Jaguar F1 team re-emerges as something else. He's in with a good shout of a drive if Red Bull take over. |
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