Spectator behaviour at Silverstone test & lack of crowd control - Page 4

MikeHoyer · 29 Apr 2006, 14:37 (Ref:1597576)

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Originally Posted by SALEEN S7R

Warning, what follows is a rant and does not necessarily represent the opinions of Ten-Tenths.
(To be honest, it probably doesn't even represent the opinions of the poster when they aren't ranting.)

I love my motorsport, but personally Im not really a fan of club level racing which is one of the reasons I woudnt want to be a marshall. I like top level International racing and I go to top International race events throughout the UK, if you become a Marshall however you quite often find yourself watching lots of club racing, something that woudnt interest me that much personally, marshalling at a bigger national/international meeting however with cars that interest me would be very differnt however. I dont think im the only person here to share that view.

We now return you to our normal ramblings.

No problem with that, not everybody has the time or interest to become a marshal or whatever. Just go as a member of the public, nothing wrong with that, but act in an appropriate manner!

shambles · 29 Apr 2006, 14:55 (Ref:1597582)

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PORSCHE LANDS IN PUKEKOHE GRANDSTAND
Dean Fulford survived a spectacular accident which saw his Porsche GT3 crash through the catch fencing and land in a grandstand. Luckily the area was free of spectators and no-one was injured.

I agree strongly with those who oppose those who were in prohibited areas. I understand the curiosities, and I understand the fact that it wasn't properly regulated, but use your common sense!

bigjon · 29 Apr 2006, 15:19 (Ref:1597588)

Here's a point no one's mentioned

the same test in 2000 - held in april that year too - zonta flew off the hanger straight launched in the stowe gravel trap and ended up (i think) in the area just behind the catch fence.

anyone who saw the crash on the track cctv that day knows how violent an incident it was - what if some idiot ignored restrictions and stood there on that day?

Phoenix1 · 29 Apr 2006, 15:28 (Ref:1597590)

Motorsport is dangerous. If you ignore the warnings and signs and get killed well it is your fault. Simply issue free tickets with the condition being that to accept the ticket you accept terms and conditions, these being you enter at your own risk etc... Renault day out all but does this with the free tickets. Also specators when directed will 99.9% the time (there is always one) respect a simple tape barrier. I mean Donnington has a simple bit of rope at the end of the hairpin. Put notices up like "do not pass x coloured safety tape" and roll some of it out. Put a plan of the circuit up showing good places to stand and banned places inc. "you are here" try these places near to you. From what I hear it is not that most people where going through barriers simply there was no sign or indication not to go to the barrier.

Dave Brand · 29 Apr 2006, 15:40 (Ref:1597594)

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Originally Posted by Phoenix1

From what I hear it is not that most people where going through barriers simply there was no sign or indication not to go to the barrier.

That one statement says it all!

Are these people so stupid that they don't know that a barrier is put there to stop them? If there's a barrier there, don't go past it - it's as simple as that!

Flat12-Aircool · 29 Apr 2006, 15:57 (Ref:1597600)

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Originally Posted by Dave Brand

That one statement says it all!

Are these people so stupid that they don't know that a barrier is put there to stop them? If there's a barrier there, don't go past it - it's as simple as that!

For the hundreth time, the barrier between Bridge and Abbey was NOT a proper barrier. Personally it looked more like a "keep to the path and don't walk on the grass" partition rather than a "No access" barrier.

**Adam43** · 29 Apr 2006, 16:39 (Ref:1597611)

to try and inject some humour in here:

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Originally Posted by Flat12-Aircool

For the hundreth time,

You can't count.

This is post 82.

ofarc · 29 Apr 2006, 16:40 (Ref:1597612)

Agree totally with Flat12-Aircool.

I did not even notice a barrier and walked by two marshalls to sit in the stands at farm.

Bloody fantastic too!!!

**Adam43** · 29 Apr 2006, 16:41 (Ref:1597613)

Aren't we talking about two different things here. One a barrier stopping you walking around to parts of the circuit and the other about going right up to the fencing?

**Adam43** · 29 Apr 2006, 16:43 (Ref:1597614)

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Originally Posted by Flat12-Aircool

Personally it looked more like a "keep to the path and don't walk on the grass" partition rather than a "No access" barrier.

Is it alright to walk on the grass if the people who own it don't want you too?

bigjon · 29 Apr 2006, 17:43 (Ref:1597633)

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Originally Posted by AdamAshmore

Aren't we talking about two different things here. One a barrier stopping you walking around to parts of the circuit and the other about going right up to the fencing?

correct

people ignored the barriers erected and walked past them at bridge to head off towards abey / club etc

meanwhile a copse and seemingly abbey / club and other places people ducked under the rail at the front of the terraces to get right up to the catch fences

Marbot · 29 Apr 2006, 17:44 (Ref:1597634)

It's a good job they don't test at Monaco.

Menelaos · 29 Apr 2006, 19:14 (Ref:1597682)

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Originally Posted by knowlesy

What are they trying to hide? How to be slower than Renault?

Good question. And apparently knows the answer to that, they've all managed to be slower than Renault.

Flat12-Aircool · 29 Apr 2006, 20:26 (Ref:1597720)

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Originally Posted by ofarc

Agree totally with Flat12-Aircool.

I did not even notice a barrier and walked by two marshalls to sit in the stands at farm.

Bloody fantastic too!!!

It is a great spot, I got some good footage there.

Whilst I can understand the reasons why Silverstone don't want the crowd to access all the circuit, at future tests they should at least give us upto Abbey chicane as that at least provides us with a place where we can see the cars under heavy braking.

Plus I think it can be easily secured, as I think there's a small gate the other side of the enclosure which they can close to stop people heading down to club corner.

Paddockman · 29 Apr 2006, 20:33 (Ref:1597725)

Hey got an idea!!

Why don't we fence off any spectator viewing area that has less than 250yds of gravel,4 layer armco and 15ft double reinforced steel debris fence and all stay indoors and watch the snooker! Far safer although saying that that cue ball could quite easily fly into the audiance so perhaps they should be forced back further and further and the adition of a safety screen should be considered.

Well Sick of the way Motorsport Specators are treated within this total Nannny State!

Plus, glad I am old enough to have witnessed the days when you could watch from some truly exhilarating places at circuits, at your own risk naturally!! Feel sorry for the younger friends I have who can only dream of it!

JohnEboy · 29 Apr 2006, 20:43 (Ref:1597731)

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Originally Posted by bigjon

Here's a point no one's mentioned

the same test in 2000 - held in april that year too - zonta flew off the hanger straight launched in the stowe gravel trap and ended up (i think) in the area just behind the catch fence.

anyone who saw the crash on the track cctv that day knows how violent an incident it was - what if some idiot ignored restrictions and stood there on that day?

they would have gotten a cracking close up

Marbot · 30 Apr 2006, 00:10 (Ref:1597855)

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Originally Posted by JohnEboy

they would have gotten a cracking close up

The X-rays would make interesting viewing as well.

Reading some of the previous posts it still seems that we need saving from ourselves.

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