FIA GT GT3 European Championship 2011 - Page 4

Speed-King · 27 Apr 2011, 15:56 (Ref:2870693)

No all I'm trying to say is that they seem to have pretty good accelleration, which is usually not something you see on an over-ballasted car.
Maybe they did some modifications over the winter and can handle the weight better now?

You know what, I'll ask Daniel Keilwitz or Ernst Wöhr in three weeks time at the Sachsenring what they think about the current balance of performance...

kyoung · 27 Apr 2011, 16:17 (Ref:2870700)

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Originally Posted by Speed-King

You know what, I'll ask Daniel Keilwitz or Ernst Wöhr in three weeks time at the Sachsenring what they think about the current balance of performance...

Heres what Ernst Wöhr said last year...

"It looks like the organisers only took the brilliant performance of Christian and Daniel into account, and therefore took the whole Corvette brand in kin liability. I hope our two championship contenders will have two good races and will be able to clinch the title already this weekend.”

I Rosputnik · 27 Apr 2011, 16:18 (Ref:2870702)

Any updates on the GT3 Camaro?

Speed-King · 27 Apr 2011, 16:28 (Ref:2870709)

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Originally Posted by kyoung

Heres what Ernst Wöhr said last year...

"It looks like the organisers only took the brilliant performance of Christian and Daniel into account, and therefore took the whole Corvette brand in kin liability. I hope our two championship contenders will have two good races and will be able to clinch the title already this weekend.”

Right, but there was a new round of BoP tests at the beginning of this season, and pretty much everybody involved in GT3 has updated their cars over the winter, so last year's weight and restrictors might mean very little when applied to a 2011-spec Corvette.

Marcel ten Caat · 27 Apr 2011, 18:31 (Ref:2870783)

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Originally Posted by I Rosputnik

Any updates on the GT3 Camaro?

Don't expect many updates from that project - or at least not from the group that announced it. ;-)

Danny_GT2 · 27 Apr 2011, 18:36 (Ref:2870786)

Woulda thought they'd publish an entry list sooner than 11 days before green flags, mind you there's already some idea of who'll be racing in Algarve next weekend!

cmk · 27 Apr 2011, 19:33 (Ref:2870832)

Does ADAC use the FIA BoP measures to the letter itself? I've always had the impression that cars were sometimes strong in ADAC when they weren't in FIA-GT. The Corvette definitely looked good at Oschersleben, but not dominant by any means. The Alpina and Lambos seemed quicker, though as far as I can remember the B6S is particularly suited to the track, with a good run last year as well.

Speed-King · 27 Apr 2011, 20:30 (Ref:2870866)

Yeah, the ADAC makes quite a point of sticking to the FIA rules/BoP... (unlike Belgium or the British series at times).

kyoung · 27 Apr 2011, 23:50 (Ref:2870970)

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Originally Posted by cmk

Does ADAC use the FIA BoP measures to the letter itself?

All these series use FIA BoP

rich07 · 28 Apr 2011, 04:32 (Ref:2871001)

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Originally Posted by Stranger

Don't expect many updates from that project - or at least not from the group that announced it. ;-)

Dead?

Speed-King · 29 Apr 2011, 13:32 (Ref:2871757)

Turbomagazine has something resembling an entry list (not much in the way of driver lineups, though)

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Porsche 997 GT3-R

ProSpeed Competition (Bel) 2 cars Soulet-Van Splunteren and Heylen-Lapalainen

Mercedes SLS GT3

Charouz (2)
Graff (2)
Heico Motorsport (2)

Audi R8 LMS

WRT (Bel) 2 R8 LMS one of them for Greg Franchi en Enzo Ide
Sainteloc (2)
United Autosport (2)

Ferrari 458 Italia

MTECH (2)
AF Corse (2)

Aston Martin DBRS9

LMP (2) with Maxime Martin en Bernard Delhez, together in one car

BMW Z4 GT3

Need for Speed-Shubert (2)
DB Motorsport (2)

Ford GT

Fisher: one or two cars Niels Lagrange might be one of the drivers.

Lamborghini Gallardo

Reiter (2)

Deleted · 30 Apr 2011, 17:36 (Ref:2872121)

A bit off topic, but according to mr. Palttala the Ford GT3 has just received 100kg extra ballast from FIA - and am I to believe that this affects all of the SRO series? However, GT1's original homologated weight has been reduced to 1200kg. Fair play, right...

helgi · 1 May 2011, 09:17 (Ref:2872320)

At this point all national champs look better than European GT3. Westbrook, Panis, Cox and lots of tallented young drivers in British, French and German series, and almost nobody famous in FIA GT3. And there's no BoP that can help with this.

NightStalk3r · 1 May 2011, 09:23 (Ref:2872323)

Because FIA GT3's whole point for existing is to cater for the amateurs.

Dani Filth · 1 May 2011, 09:52 (Ref:2872335)

rich amateurs i might add

mario87 · 1 May 2011, 17:05 (Ref:2872480)

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Originally Posted by mario87

For those asking about the latest BOP values I put them all together. If it was like last season there will be changes mid-season.

weight total restrictor(mm)
aston martin 1310 2 X 59
BMW Alp 1300 none
Ferrari F430 1250 2 X 51.4
Ferrari 458 1285 2 X 55.5
Lambo 1255 2 X 53
Corvette Z06 1350 1 X 49

MB SLS ?
Porsche ?
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/sport/champ...Pages/gt3.aspx

Changes

Lambo 1270kg 2X53mm
BMW Alpina 1245 kg no restrictor

New BOP's

BMW Z4 1210kg 1X85mm
Audi R8 1320kg 2X47.2mm
Ford GT 1300kg 2X50mm
Mercedes SLS 1365kg 2X35.3mm

kyoung · 1 May 2011, 19:48 (Ref:2872555)

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Originally Posted by helgi

And there's no BoP that can help with this.

That won’t stop them from trying, the first of many, and many, and many more BoP changes for GT3…

Mercedes-Benz AMG SLS.........MW:1365 kg /R = 2 x 35,3 mm
Corvette Z06R GT3.................MW:1350 kg /R = 1 x 49 mm
Audi R8 LMS...........................MW:1320 kg /R = 2 x 47,2 mm
Aston Martin DBRS9.................MW:1310 kg /R = 2 x 59 mm
Ford GT / GT3.........................MW:1300 kg /R = 2 x 50 mm
Ferrari 458 Italia GT3................MW:1285 kg /R = 2 x 55,5 mm
Lamborghini Gallardo LP560-4.....MW:1270 kg /R = 2 x 53 mm
Porsche 911 GT3 R...................MW:1250 kg /R = 1 x 76 mm
Ferrari 430 SCUDERIA................MW:1250 kg /R = 2 x 51,4 mm
BMW ALPINA B6 GT3.................MW:1245 kg /R = none
BMW E89 Z4............................MW:1210 kg /R = 1 x 85 mm

Looks like the SLS showed too much at the start of the season.

alexkiller8 · 1 May 2011, 20:16 (Ref:2872574)

the sls is the heaviest car and the one with the more restricted engine.... that's fia....

mario87 · 1 May 2011, 23:54 (Ref:2872656)

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Originally Posted by alexkiller8

the sls is the heaviest car and the one with the more restricted engine.... that's fia....

Corvette is the most restricted but the SLS isn't far behind.

FordCosworthPanoz · 3 May 2011, 17:46 (Ref:2873614)

Entry List for round 1 at Algarve:
http://gt3europe.com/results.php?eve...ion=Entry List

28 cars:

2 Prospeed 911s
Graff Racing (2), HEICO Racing (2), Gravity Charouz (2), and Paulo Pinheiro (1) with the Mercedes SLS AMG.
Need For Speed (2) and DB Motorsport (2) with the BMW Z4 GT3.
Sainteloc Racing (2), United Autosports (2), and Belgian Audi Club (2) have brought the Audi R8 LMS.
MTECH (2) and AF Corse (2) have the Ferrari 458 Italia.
Team LMP Motorsport has two Aston Martin DBRS9s.
Fischer Racing has brought 2 Ford GTs.
Only One Lamborghini Gallardo entered by Reiter.

However, with the driver quality of this compared to the Blancpain Endurance Series, ADAC Masters, VLN, British GT and even French GT I must admit Im slowly losing interest in this championship.

sventhedog · 3 May 2011, 22:30 (Ref:2873754)

hi. i'm from asia. i've just started to know about gt3 europian races. where can i watch races online? i'm looking forward to see the algarve race on the 8th. thanks.

Captain Spyro · 3 May 2011, 22:39 (Ref:2873759)

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Originally Posted by sventhedog

hi. i'm from asia. i've just started to know about gt3 europian races. where can i watch races online? i'm looking forward to see the algarve race on the 8th. thanks.

I remember the official FIA GT3 site streamed all the races live last year like they did/do for GT1. I would guess it will be the same for this year as they streamed the Blancpain race.

http://gt3europe.com/

andy_b · 3 May 2011, 22:45 (Ref:2873768)

will be streamed again this year

Accident · 3 May 2011, 23:30 (Ref:2873790)

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Originally Posted by FordCosworthPanoz

However, with the driver quality of this compared to the Blancpain Endurance Series, ADAC Masters, VLN, British GT and even French GT I must admit Im slowly losing interest in this championship.

As am I, however it and the Blancpain series are the only ones with on-demand streaming and English commentary (that I know of anyway), so it leaves me with little other choice.

The lack of Corvettes doesn't help either, as it was my favorite of the GT3 cars that ran last year.

I will watch the Algarve race since I like that track and then decide how closely I follow the series after that.

I Rosputnik · 4 May 2011, 08:47 (Ref:2873892)

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Originally Posted by rich07

Dead?

It would be shame if the project is dead. I was looking forward to seeing the car.

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