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Old 14 Aug 2004, 07:18 (Ref:1065751)   #76
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retro should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridretro should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
JB missed the weigh point.
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Old 14 Aug 2004, 08:50 (Ref:1065798)   #77
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Does AVESCO know something we dont....

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"Skaife claimed the 34th pole position of his career – he is third on the all-time list of drivers starting on the front of the grid to Allan Moffat (39) and Peter Brock (57) – with his Holden Racing Team team-mate Rick Kelly alongside him."
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Old 14 Aug 2004, 10:09 (Ref:1065859)   #78
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JB missed the weigh point.
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WTF, how the hell can a team be under weight so far into the season, i find that un excuesable, but then again after his effort at winton involving ambrose maybe karma has come & bitten him on the arse

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Old 14 Aug 2004, 10:21 (Ref:1065870)   #79
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Its not the weight of the car thats incorrect, the driver missed calling into the AVESCO weighbridge, so his times from that session were scrubbed....

It has happened to Dale Brede amongst others during the year....
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Old 14 Aug 2004, 10:22 (Ref:1065871)   #80
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WTF, how the hell can a team be under weight so far into the season, i find that un excuesable, but then again after his effort at winton involving ambrose maybe karma has come & bitten him on the arse
The stewards set up a set of scales in pit lane and they do a random check of the car weights (during practice and qual.)
They have a set of lights (red and green) and if you get a red it's your responsibility to pull in and be weighed.
Bowe must have ignored the light. He was having brake problems.
With the reinterpretation of the rule book now anything wrong and you are out for the session - no excuses.
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Old 14 Aug 2004, 10:31 (Ref:1065891)   #81
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fair enough the original reason didnt explain much, just JB missed the weigh point.
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Old 14 Aug 2004, 10:34 (Ref:1065895)   #82
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so its a random thing with the lights or they pick specific cars
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Old 14 Aug 2004, 10:49 (Ref:1065910)   #83
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I believe it's random. You hear the crew chief's telling the drivers over the in car radio's to be aware of the lights.
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Old 14 Aug 2004, 11:24 (Ref:1065926)   #84
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Random except they do it to the top 3 at the end of the races as well. even if they are picked for a random test as well...

I reckon they should weight all the cars at the end of qualifying & the race(s)...

.. they do it in PROCAR, and found a driver last weekend that had a car less than 5kg underweight.... and he had been running the same unit for at least 2 years....
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Meantime, well done and congratulations to Mr Coulthard & Mr Walden, both of who ripped huge chunks out of their practice times to make the main series field.

Mr Walden looked gone for all money, but his team worked hard between practice and qualifying, replacing dampers amongst other setting changes (and stopping the diff widdling some of Motul's finest) for the car to improve 2.4 seconds from practice to qualifying....

Meantime, Mr Coulthard did exceptionally well in an unfamiliar car to lop a second off the times between practice & qualifying

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Old 15 Aug 2004, 00:28 (Ref:1066568)   #86
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W1 20 Mins
Scheduled Start 09:40

Page# 1 Issue# 1
Start Sun Aug 15 09:40
Elapsed Time 16:59


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Pos Car Entrant Driver Vehicle Cap CL Laps Fastest...Lap Gap

1 34 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Garth Tander Holden Commodore VY 5000 12 11 1:09.1301*
2 2 Holden Racing Team Mark Skaife Holden Commodore VY 5000 14 13 1:09.2076 0:00.0775
3 9 Caltex Havoline Race Team Russell Ingall Ford Falcon BA 5000 13 7 1:09.3824 0:00.2523
4 29 Sirromet - Life,Style,Wine Paul Morris Holden Commodore VY 5000 12 12 1:09.4583 0:00.3282
5 12 OzEmail Racing Team John Bowe Ford Falcon BA 5000 12 10 1:09.4974 0:00.3673
6 1 Pirtek Racing Marcos Ambrose Ford Falcon BA 5000 8 7 1:09.5483 0:00.4182
7 22 Holden Racing Team Todd Kelly Holden Commodore VY 5000 11 10 1:09.5653 0:00.4352
8 16 PWR Performance Products Paul Weel Holden Commodore VY 5000 13 6 1:09.5728 0:00.4427
9 15 Kmart Racing Team Rick Kelly Holden Commodore VY 5000 13 12 1:09.6629 0:00.5328
10 44 Roadships/Alphawest/World Ind Simon Wills Holden Commodore VY 5000 15 12 1:09.6925 0:00.5624
11 88 Team Betta Electrical Paul Radisich Ford Falcon BA 5000 12 12 1:09.7280 0:00.5979
12 50 PWR Performance Products Jason Bright Holden Commodore VY 5000 11 6 1:09.7697 0:00.6396
13 10 Larkham Orrcon Racing Jason Bargwanna Ford Falcon BA 5000 12 10 1:09.8214 0:00.6913
14 17 Shell Helix Racing Steven Johnson Ford Falcon BA 5000 10 9 1:09.9779 0:00.8478
15 6 Ford Performance Racing Craig Lowndes Ford Falcon BA 5000 12 10 1:10.0538 0:00.9237
16 31 Super Cheap Auto Racing Steve Ellery Ford Falcon BA 5000 13 11 1:10.0640 0:00.9339
17 33 Repco Valvoline Cummins Team Cameron McConville Holden Commodore VY 5000 11 11 1:10.0882 0:00.9581
18 23 WPS David Besnard Ford Falcon BA 5000 11 10 1:10.0889 0:00.9588
19 3 Tasman Motorsport Jason Richards Holden Commodore VY 5000 14 14 1:10.1475 0:01.0174
20 021 Team Kiwi Racing Craig Baird Holden Commodore VY 5000 7 6 1:10.1703 0:01.0402
21 20 Larkham Orrcon Racing Mark Winterbottom Ford Falcon BA 5000 11 6 1:10.2485 0:01.1184
22 21 OzEmail Racing Team Brad Jones Ford Falcon BA 5000 13 5 1:10.2622 0:01.1321
23 45 Roadships/Alphawest/World Ind Dale Brede Holden Commodore VY 5000 13 13 1:10.2726 0:01.1425
24 888 Team Betta Electrical Max Wilson Ford Falcon BA 5000 12 5 1:10.2990 0:01.1689
25 11 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Steven Richards Holden Commodore VY 5000 11 10 1:10.3466 0:01.2165
26 18 Shell Helix Racing Warren Luff Ford Falcon BA 5000 12 12 1:10.3569 0:01.2268
27 7 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Tony Longhurst Holden Commodore VX 5000 12 11 1:10.6164 0:01.4863
28 8 Castrol Perkins Motorsport Paul Dumbrell Holden Commodore VY 5000 11 10 1:10.6769 0:01.5468
29 51 Kmart Racing Team Greg Murphy Holden Commodore VY 5000 6 1 1:10.7345 0:01.6044
30 75 Toll Racing Anthony Tratt Holden Commodore VY 5000 14 12 1:10.7777 0:01.6476
31 48 WPS Mark Noske Ford Falcon BA 5000 13 13 1:10.8714 0:01.7413
32 14 IMS Will Davison Holden Commodore VY 5000 7 6 1:10.8850 0:01.7549
33 43 PWR Performance Products Fabian Coulthard Holden Commodore VX 5000 13 10 1:11.5757 0:02.4456
34 24 Romano Racing Garth Walden Ford Falcon AU 5000 1 1 1:28.5566 0:19.4265

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Old 15 Aug 2004, 00:37 (Ref:1066572)   #87
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why was it stopped 3mins and 1 sec earlier than it shouldve?
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Old 15 Aug 2004, 00:45 (Ref:1066575)   #88
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it was stopped 3 minutes early, because they is a rule that says the session can not go 15mins longer than the scheduled finish time... And because they was so many red flags it finished early

More importantly, does anyone know why a Mr G.Seton did to go out to play????
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Can someone tell me why the f&# Seto has not started R1???
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Old 15 Aug 2004, 01:28 (Ref:1066588)   #90
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Gridding up now for Race 1 - weather fine - very cold

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Old 15 Aug 2004, 01:31 (Ref:1066590)   #91
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retro should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridretro should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
pit stops today are between lap 20/30

Bigpond started late - someone has had a hit (888 I think)
I haven't heard anything about seto.
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Old 15 Aug 2004, 01:36 (Ref:1066596)   #92
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p7 murph
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p32 baird and he has been involved in an early lap incident with jones and max?

update skaife around toddler

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sc out toddler off and needs a tow.
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p1 skaife 1.09.57
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off or pushed ??? Cam was very close behind!!
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max pushed off by djr

update it was rick that went off (wrong kelly)

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skaife
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ambrose all going for it nose to tail after stops.

tander gets a drive through

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