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6 Apr 2004, 14:29 (Ref:932349)
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Some interesting news from the LMES test at Paul Ricard as well- one of RFH's drivers at Le Mans may apparently be Chris Dyson, who has been sharing the Dome with Lammers today |
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6 Apr 2004, 14:44 (Ref:932365)
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6 Apr 2004, 15:20 (Ref:932397)
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Glad to see the Saleen, but not the second WR.... Welter Racing already has a spot in the field....why not another LMP2 team that submitted an entry...Maybe Rand or Bucknum??? I doubt that they would add another LMP1 since there are 19 in the field, but that won't keep me from feeling badly (again) for AutoCon... I really felt they deserved a bid... This whole progression of issues is really beginning to stink.... |
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6 Apr 2004, 15:26 (Ref:932402)
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6 Apr 2004, 15:28 (Ref:932404)
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Originally posted by Pilgrimage Anyone able to fill me in on why there are no Saleens entered? That answers that one then. quote: Originally posted by Pilgrimage If more cars drop out will the ACO "invite" other reserves? Fab: No. Hmmmmm 
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6 Apr 2004, 15:41 (Ref:932412)
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 And I was quite confident on that !  My motto now : "never trust ACO" what did I do with that  tickets confirmation ?
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6 Apr 2004, 15:43 (Ref:932414)
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There must be a reserve reserve list.
At least one Pilbeam was put forward. Say no one else pulls out before the PQ's, but at the the PQ's a team that is on the list is either very slow, unreliable or falls foul of the ACO in some other way. Do the ACO have the power to remove that car from the list to allow in a reserve? |
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6 Apr 2004, 15:44 (Ref:932415)
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on the "Not on the ACO List" thread, many of us who guesstimated who the "non-invitees" were in that class included both Rand and Bucknum on our lists, and there seemed to be a general agreement that both had submitted entries.... But they may not have....we'll never know unless that full list is released....and I doubt that it will be.... |
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6 Apr 2004, 15:49 (Ref:932421)
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Theoricaly not, but now that you know my motto...
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6 Apr 2004, 16:08 (Ref:932437)
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Judging by last year's Test Day and Qualifying results...particularly the "Best" lap times posted for the Norma and the WRs....their "pace" or lack thereof, would not prompt the ACO to drop them.... It supposedly is some sort of complicated formula that regulates whether or not an entry is "too slow"..... I remember raising the issue about the Norma last year, because the critieria that were posted on this subject seemed at the time to not be met by the Norma's times...at least in its own LMP 900 class when compared to the times of the other LMP900 entries.... Someone on the Forum gave me an answer that made at least some sense at the time....but I can't remember what it was....but I belive it had to do with the Norma's times falling within that criteria when compared to the top times in another class, like GT... But don't quote me on that...I really can't remember specifically All I really remember is that it seemed to be a complicated way to determine it..... If anyone can shed light on this for us, we'd appreciate it. |
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6 Apr 2004, 16:09 (Ref:932438)
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One minor point that's been puzzling me about the reserve entries- (and I think I already know the answer.....)
Is there any logic to the order of precedence in which the reserves are called up- or extra cars are added to the reserve list?- (ie how Taurus or whoever got to be first on the reserves list, and so on)- or is it done by some totally random method known only to the ACO? Is there some kind of 'reserve reserve' list as Nordic suggested, or did they just get a blindfolded member of ACO staff to just pull two rejected entry forms out of the wastepaper basket at random and then add them to the reserves.....?
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6 Apr 2004, 17:23 (Ref:932510)
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Thats a bloody insult to now give Konrad a reserve place !!! And another bloody WR !!!
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6 Apr 2004, 17:31 (Ref:932518)
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With Chris Dyson in the RfH Dome I wonder will he bring some Thetford-Norcold money with him ?
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6 Apr 2004, 17:32 (Ref:932520)
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They do seem to be dropping like flies. So am I right in thinking the reserve list now reads:
1) Racing for Holland Dome-Judd S101 2) Seikel Motorsport Porsche 911 GT3-RSR 3) Gerard Welter WR-Peugeot LM2004 4) Konrad Motorsport Saleen S7-R? What do you think the chances of any of these getting in are, and who might drop out next? |
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6 Apr 2004, 17:38 (Ref:932530)
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Interesting, and if DSC say so, I believe it. But the ACO updated their list today and there are no extra reserves on it. Yet.
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6 Apr 2004, 18:21 (Ref:932581)
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It appeared on DSC late this afternoon, so several hours after the updated official entry list was published (think I saw that on DSC this morning?) Heaven only knows what's going on at the ACO...
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6 Apr 2004, 18:22 (Ref:932583)
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Racing for Holland Dome-Judd S1
Gerard Welter WR-Peugeot LM2004 Konrad Motorsport Saleen S7-R I personally would rather see these 3 in and some of the Porsche GT cars out... |
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6 Apr 2004, 18:45 (Ref:932615)
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6 Apr 2004, 19:30 (Ref:932678)
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Yes, the bloom is off the initial success of the LMES now. I always felt all the chatter about the rebirth was pretty optimistic - and that those in North America who felt the LMES was hurting the ALMS were off the mark.
It now looks much more like all ACO-ruleset racing is simply just now starting its recovery. A much more realistic viewpoint after all. Don't forget, 2004 is the transition year. We had to expect this... |
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6 Apr 2004, 20:03 (Ref:932717)
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6 Apr 2004, 20:55 (Ref:932767)
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Yes, the bloom is off the initial success of the LMES now. I always felt all the chatter about the rebirth was pretty optimistic - and that those in North America who felt the LMES was hurting the ALMS were off the mark. My Response: Waht does the fact that the ACO is acting illogically and irrationally have to do with the LMES? Personally, I still feel that the LMES is hurting the ALMS. It gves teams like Pescarolo, RFH, Zytek, and Courage no reason to come to North America. Last edited by dretceterini; 6 Apr 2004 at 20:55. |
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6 Apr 2004, 21:06 (Ref:932774)
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im happy konrad will at least be at test day now. It will have to be a miricle though for him to get in. i only see a few teams that may withdraw (Force One, and maybe the CARE 550) seems like the Zytek will be there, even if they have to use the Jota chassis.
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6 Apr 2004, 21:18 (Ref:932792)
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6 Apr 2004, 21:24 (Ref:932797)
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6 Apr 2004, 21:41 (Ref:932816)
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both lmsr.com and Infocourse are announcing Comas/Treluyer/Bourdais and Ayari/Minassian/Collard for Pescarolo
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