LM24 Race Le Mans Race Thread 2007 (16/17 June) - Page 43

rdjones · 19 Jun 2007, 11:50 (Ref:1941611)

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Originally Posted by Piglet

[Piglet climbs up onto soapbox]
It really was a class race but I'm disappointed to see Shorty kept off the podium by the actions of Peugeot and the inaction of the organisers. The Peugeot's actions were clearly in breach of the regulations but that seems to be OK. I wonder if the outcome would have been the same if the situation had been reversed and it had been Shorty sitting out on the track to avoid doing another lap....hmm...I wonder....

Bourdais said in the press conference that he couldn't have done another lap and that's why he stopped.

Write regs and run to them - all of the time, not just when it suits you do to so [climbs down off soapbox].

I can't agree more, had it been anyone else than a french team and with a driver born in Le Mans they would have been thrown out. But a fantastic result for Shorty.

kdr · 19 Jun 2007, 12:12 (Ref:1941628)

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Originally Posted by Piglet

The weather was foul, I wasn't surprised to see the safety cars on track at the end, the team managers were clamouring for it and (in Hugh Chamberlain's words visited the race director "mob handed" to demand a safety car period there was so much standing water on the track that it was incredibly difficult to drive.

what made it more bizarre was that certainly where i was standing the rain got even heavier in the last ten minutes of the race when the safety car came in!

Piglet · 19 Jun 2007, 12:20 (Ref:1941640)

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Originally Posted by kdr

what made it more bizarre was that certainly where i was standing the rain got even heavier in the last ten minutes of the race when the safety car came in!

I agree...I think you'll find it's something to do with the race having NEVER finished under a safety car and them not wanting to do that now. Nobody said it ever made sense!

henk4 · 19 Jun 2007, 13:43 (Ref:1941705)

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Originally Posted by rdjones

I can't agree more, had it been anyone else than a french team and with a driver born in Le Mans they would have been thrown out. But a fantastic result for Shorty.

Is Binnie French?

henk4 · 19 Jun 2007, 13:45 (Ref:1941706)

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Originally Posted by rdjones

I can't agree more, had it been anyone else than a french team and with a driver born in Le Mans they would have been thrown out. But a fantastic result for Shorty.

I tis time that the Brits start organising their own 24 hour race, so then they don't have to deal with those French chauvinistic pigs. any more..

Piglet · 19 Jun 2007, 15:15 (Ref:1941742)

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Originally Posted by henk4

Is Binnie French?

Don't think so but they didn't break any rules, they completed not less than 70% of the distance covered by the race winner and took the flag on the track as is required in the regulations.

prototype · 19 Jun 2007, 15:19 (Ref:1941747)

American and scottish.

Mal · 19 Jun 2007, 15:28 (Ref:1941753)

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Originally Posted by henk4

I tis time that the Brits start organising their own 24 hour race, so then they don't have to deal with those French chauvinistic pigs. any more..

a race like that and the events surrounding it would be so tied up in red tape and bureacracy in the UK that it would never happen.

Besides if it was in the England we would have no excuse to invade France with 70,000 car loving enthusiasts every year.

henk4 · 19 Jun 2007, 16:36 (Ref:1941804)

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Originally Posted by Piglet

Don't think so but they didn't break any rules, they completed not less than 70% of the distance covered by the race winner and took the flag on the track as is required in the regulations.

so what rule did Peugeot break?

henk4 · 19 Jun 2007, 16:37 (Ref:1941805)

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Originally Posted by Mal

a race like that and the events surrounding it would be so tied up in red tape and bureacracy in the UK that it would never happen.

Besides if it was in the England we would have no excuse to invade France with 70,000 car loving enthusiasts every year.

then live with it and leave the conspiracy theories on your island

kdr · 19 Jun 2007, 17:13 (Ref:1941834)

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Originally Posted by Piglet

I agree...I think you'll find it's something to do with the race having NEVER finished under a safety car and them not wanting to do that now. Nobody said it ever made sense!

and when you think about it what a great politically correct podium it made!

kdr · 19 Jun 2007, 17:14 (Ref:1941835)

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Originally Posted by henk4

Is Binnie French?

as its been said, i don't believe they broke any rules.

besides mr.binnie could always invoke the "auld alliance"

Piglet · 19 Jun 2007, 17:18 (Ref:1941840)

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Originally Posted by henk4

so what rule did Peugeot break?

Read the other thread

davehenrie · 19 Jun 2007, 17:24 (Ref:1941851)

Whats the difference between the Track Marshalls moving the stricken, but not dead, Corvette and then later the Track Marshalls helping two LMP2 cars(Noel del Bellow and Zytek/Lowes) out of gravel traps.

I don't see the difference, but apparantly there is some discretion allowed?

Dave Henrie

henk4 · 19 Jun 2007, 17:32 (Ref:1941864)

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Originally Posted by kdr

and when you think about it what a great politically correct podium it made!

everybody happy, but Audi the least

anyway, in case people have some time to spare:

http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...em.php&rid=119

henk4 · 19 Jun 2007, 17:33 (Ref:1941865)

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Originally Posted by Mal

Besides if it was in the England we would have no excuse to invade France with 70,000 car loving enthusiasts every year.

well purchasing power of the pound should be sufficient reason to come to Europe every day....

**FIRE** · 19 Jun 2007, 18:35 (Ref:1941922)

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Originally Posted by davehenrie

Whats the difference between the Track Marshalls moving the stricken, but not dead, Corvette and then later the Track Marshalls helping two LMP2 cars(Noel del Bellow and Zytek/Lowes) out of gravel traps.

I don't see the difference, but apparantly there is some discretion allowed?

Dave Henrie

The LMP cars were still powered by their petrol engine, the Corvette was powered by it's starting engine (broken driveshaft). The latter is not allowed.

broadrun96 · 19 Jun 2007, 18:42 (Ref:1941928)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

The LMP cars were still powered by their petrol engine, the Corvette was powered by it's starting engine (broken driveshaft). The latter is not allowed.

exactly, if he hadnt cut the engine off they would have never known and been able to hide the starter running the car back to the pits. However, if it could have been repaired is pointless as none of the rest had big problems to bring the 64 to the rest of the field.

**PascaLM** · 19 Jun 2007, 19:06 (Ref:1941944)

Surely, if there were no Peugeot, no Pescarolo, no Courage, no Larbre, no ORECA, no Epsilon, no Alphand, no Pierre Bruneau...There would be probably no chauvinistic French at all !

henk4 · 19 Jun 2007, 19:14 (Ref:1941952)

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Originally Posted by PascaLM

Surely, if there were no Peugeot, no Pescarolo, no Courage, no Larbre, no ORECA, no Epsilon, no Alphand, no Pierre Bruneau...There would be probably no chauvinistic French at all !

we will cheer for WM

Truckosaurus · 19 Jun 2007, 19:17 (Ref:1941954)

Well, I'm back from the wars, this year saw a record minimum of 5hrs of the 24 actually viewed in the flesh due to a combination of poor weather, a group bbq, a severe case of the Barry Whites/Two Bob Bits/etc., and having to break camp before the heaven's opened again. In better news, the re-done Dunlop Chicane was gloriously action packed.

paul-collins · 19 Jun 2007, 19:21 (Ref:1941956)

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Originally Posted by PascaLM

Surely, if there were no Peugeot, no Pescarolo, no Courage, no Larbre, no ORECA, no Epsilon, no Alphand, no Pierre Bruneau...There would be probably no chauvinistic French at all !

Ah, better to be chauvinistic than jingoistic, eh Pascal.

**PascaLM** · 19 Jun 2007, 19:21 (Ref:1941957)

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Originally Posted by henk4

we will cheer for WM

There hasn't been a WM at LM for a while, my friend. Go back to your books.

henk4 · 19 Jun 2007, 20:00 (Ref:1941988)

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Originally Posted by PascaLM

There hasn't been a WM at LM for a while, my friend. Go back to your books.

when all other French makes disappear the ACO will invite them again...

paul-collins · 19 Jun 2007, 20:25 (Ref:1942014)

*yawn*

Can we move on, Henk?

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