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Old 1 Nov 2014, 14:27 (Ref:3470517)   #1101
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For all the talk about new LMP2 entries. All we got so far is a NAEC Krohn Ligier (ACO based LMP2 cars) Does anybody know what is up with Oak, 8Star, and/or Starworks speculation?
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We could be looking at less #TUSC P cars than thought. At least 3 of the "Possibles" have turned into "Unlikely" http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/2015-silly-season-update-ppc/ …
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 15:34 (Ref:3470532)   #1102
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Rumour is that the only full season P2 will be the Mazolas.
So, zero then.
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 15:45 (Ref:3470533)   #1103
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So, zero then.
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 15:56 (Ref:3470534)   #1104
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So, zero then.
Long Beach could have a grid of around 18 cars I think.
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 16:29 (Ref:3470537)   #1105
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So, like ALMS in 2009, at the height of the recession.

Wonderful!
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 16:45 (Ref:3470540)   #1106
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So, like ALMS in 2009, at the height of the recession.

Wonderful!
I think many of us would still take the 09' 17-car St Petersburg grid (3xP1/3xP2/11xGT2) or 21-car Long Beach grid (4xP1/3xP2/2xGT1/12xGT2) over any 60-car rubbin' is racin' USCC grid
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 20:03 (Ref:3470569)   #1107
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I think many of us would still take the 09' 17-car St Petersburg grid (3xP1/3xP2/11xGT2) or 21-car Long Beach grid (4xP1/3xP2/2xGT1/12xGT2) over any 60-car rubbin' is racin' USCC grid
I would and I remember thinking what a crap grid that was back in the day...
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 20:18 (Ref:3470572)   #1108
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I would and I remember thinking what a crap grid that was back in the day...
Yeah, but BoP was great because everyone got to finish on the podium
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 20:36 (Ref:3470575)   #1109
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I think many of us would still take the 09' 17-car St Petersburg grid (3xP1/3xP2/11xGT2) or 21-car Long Beach grid (4xP1/3xP2/2xGT1/12xGT2) over any 60-car rubbin' is racin' USCC grid
I sure you.. Hell I would rather watch 1 P1 doing laps than what we have now.
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 22:47 (Ref:3470597)   #1110
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I would and I remember thinking what a crap grid that was back in the day...
Agreed and agreed. A sad state of affairs we have. Just enjoy the WEC for now.
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Old 1 Nov 2014, 23:32 (Ref:3470607)   #1111
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I think many of us would still take the 09' 17-car St Petersburg grid (3xP1/3xP2/11xGT2) or 21-car Long Beach grid (4xP1/3xP2/2xGT1/12xGT2) over any 60-car rubbin' is racin' USCC grid
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 00:07 (Ref:3470615)   #1112
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I would and I remember thinking what a crap grid that was back in the day...
Hmm yes, how times change...
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 02:33 (Ref:3470640)   #1113
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So, zero then.
http://www.speedsource.com/speedsource-careers.cfm

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Old 2 Nov 2014, 04:59 (Ref:3470709)   #1114
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Doesn't matter how (not) fast they are, they're still not LMP2 cars, same as the Deltawing.
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 05:39 (Ref:3470725)   #1115
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Doesn't matter how (not) fast they are, they're still not COMPETITIVE LMP2 cars, same as the Deltawing.
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 06:16 (Ref:3470737)   #1116
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Technically, I dont think that diesels are allowed in lmp2.. so it's not an lmp2 car
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There has been some discussion about this, but because I am occasionally senile, I forget the details ... but I Believe FIA allows diesel P2s this year.
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 06:28 (Ref:3470744)   #1118
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There has been some discussion about this, but because I am occasionally senile, I forget the details ... but I Believe FIA allows diesel P2s this year.

We had this discussion last week or something, and i also forgot what the situation really was.
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 07:19 (Ref:3470760)   #1119
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They're not allowed because 1) they don't want a BoP mess like LMP1 had for years and 2) if you want to have some fancy manufacturer development project run P1.

The entirely nonsensical thing here being that IMSA goes to ACO meetings to ask them to turn a privateer prototype class with the opposite values into DTM with stock blocks.
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There has been some discussion about this, but because I am occasionally senile, I forget the details ... but I Believe FIA allows diesel P2s this year.
No it got canned (again) after Mazda pulled the LM plug

Anyway, even putting the diesels aside, those old Lolas should be pretty much non legal for ACO racing now anyway
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 14:59 (Ref:3470842)   #1121
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Why would they be illegal? they are built to 2011 lmp2 rules which are still the present ruleset.
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 18:41 (Ref:3470882)   #1122
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Please try another response. This is the second or third time you've said that.

Until the Mazdas manage to consistently lap faster than GTD and finish a race, they're nothing more than field filling side shows not to be taken seriously. I don't have to be an engineer to see they aren't very good.
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Those cars are pulling less the 350hp probably, they could go 450hp but it wouldn't last.

A DP ironically could be better for cooling. At least I assume it would with a bigger engine bay that's bigger then a P2s, but then they would have to fine a way to get even more horse power from that tiny diesel.

You know, the Delta wing car could be the best chassis because it doesn't have to produce that much HP but then torque would probably tear up the gearbox.
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Old 2 Nov 2014, 20:43 (Ref:3470920)   #1124
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Please try another response. This is the second or third time you've said that.
And the 23458475th time you've pulled out the "HURRR DURRR NOT A REAL P2 HUUUUURRRRRR" trope.

Cheers, mate.
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Well ... I have been a SpeedSource fan since they ran R8s and a fan of Tristan Nunez since he was in Lites, and I have to be honest--with a great driver lineup and an experienced team, SpeedSource has barely been able to field a non-comical car since they switched to the diesel Mazda6.

Pointing that out doesn't make me a lout. And if a non-fan points that out, that shouldn't make him a target for scorn--again, being honest, wouldn't most of us have just a little scorn for a P2 which struggles to stay ahead of the GTDs?

The one poster might be "attacking" a slow car, the other is attacking a poster. 'Nuff said?
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