Le Mans Series 2007 - Page 45

brielga · 10 May 2007, 10:48 (Ref:1910216)

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Originally Posted by henk4

maybe a Pratt & Whitney engine????

At least some advice would be wise. I know they have built the car without any guidance from Corvette and I think those guys know their stuff pretty well...

HORNDAWG · 10 May 2007, 15:29 (Ref:1910383)

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Originally Posted by brielga

At least some advice would be wise. I know they have built the car without any guidance from Corvette and I think those guys know their stuff pretty well...

Yes, Pratt & Miller do know their stuff!! It would be of great help to Markland if they can get some input from P&M.

L.P.

brielga · 10 May 2007, 17:19 (Ref:1910463)

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Originally Posted by HORNDAWG

Yes, Pratt & Miller do know their stuff!! It would be of great help to Markland if they can get some input from P&M.

L.P.

Indeed, let's just hope that they ASK for it

ger80 · 12 May 2007, 08:33 (Ref:1911479)

I dont think that it is easy to get a good GT2 car out of the Corvette. Otherwise I cant understand why Pratt&Miller mostly changed everything in the C6R until the limits of the regulatons .... Steel chassis instead of Al, moved engine position, .....

bil588 · 29 May 2007, 01:29 (Ref:1923351)

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Originally Posted by henk4

Let's not worry about regs now but concentrate on the epic battle ahead of us: Peugeot vs Audi....Finally something again that will stir people's imagination...

The 908's body does, but certainly not the engine noise, at least on online videos.

bil588 · 29 May 2007, 01:32 (Ref:1923352)

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Originally Posted by ger80

I dont think that it is easy to get a good GT2 car out of the Corvette. Otherwise I cant understand why Pratt&Miller mostly changed everything in the C6R until the limits of the regulatons .... Steel chassis instead of Al, moved engine position, .....

gt1 regs are different. the c6.r was homologated with the c6 and not z6 z06. doesn't the dbr9 have its engine moved back?

where is the long-term future for gt1 anyways?

markland doesn't have the resources of p&m.

bil588 · 29 May 2007, 07:14 (Ref:1923451)

is the mader v-8 from t2m motorsport a mader design through and through and not a rebadged mecachrome engine?

what has mecachrome done with mader since the purchase in 2004?

http://www.mecachrome.com/us_index.php?p=us_sport_intro

SebringMG · 29 May 2007, 07:57 (Ref:1923486)

There IS a future for GT1 - they just have to make the cars a bit cheaper to run - whether this is a combination of reducing the freedom in the current regs i don't know - after all moving engine location etc has to be expensive and maybe moving to something like a control ECU could cut costs.

Making GT2 the new GT1 is NOT the answer - while the cars are interesting to watch a 911 or 430, Panoz etc are not what the top category should be about - Supercars / Big GTs etc....

Also ALMS has a separate problem in that P&M race very succesfully and everybody else is too scared to race against them, Aston would but don't have the budget. If P&M ever pull out then i think you would see a bunch of privateer GT1 cars come out of the closet and race - they just see it as a waste of time against works cars unfort.

The Badger · 29 May 2007, 08:35 (Ref:1923510)

Might be an idea for P&M to pull out and support privateer teams with drivers and parts ..... im sure you would then see a surge in GT1 .

Lets face it , GT1 as it is , is very exciting ..... I agree that GT2 should not become the premier GT division and I for one would not like to see a GT2-GT3 format ..... not spectacular enough and a little too slow for a combination of LMP1 and LMP2 as well .

One can only hope !!!

But , if P&M decided to go GT2 and take on the mite of Ferrari and Porsche , that would be something too . Maybe leave GT1 to the privateer ?

JAG · 29 May 2007, 20:23 (Ref:1924102)

New GT1 = Base GT2 + 550bhp/1050kg or 600bhp/1100kg, 14in tyres, carbon brakes.

dj choc ice · 29 May 2007, 21:18 (Ref:1924167)

Quote:

Originally Posted by bil588

is the mader v-8 from t2m motorsport a mader design through and through and not a rebadged mecachrome engine?

what has mecachrome done with mader since the purchase in 2004?

http://www.mecachrome.com/us_index.php?p=us_sport_intro

the T2M dome S101.5 LMP2 is badged as a dome mader but the engine is actually a judd XV 3.4 V8, not a mecachrome or mader V8 engine.

gwyllion · 29 May 2007, 21:34 (Ref:1924180)

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Originally Posted by dj choc ice

the T2M dome S101.5 LMP2 is badged as a dome mader but the engine is actually a judd XV 3.4 V8, not a mecachrome or mader V8 engine.

Complete BS according to http://www.endurance-info.com/article.php?sid=3654

bil588 · 1 Jun 2007, 20:09 (Ref:1926489)

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Originally Posted by SebringMG

Also ALMS has a separate problem in that P&M race very succesfully and everybody else is too scared to race against them, Aston would but don't have the budget. If P&M ever pull out then i think you would see a bunch of privateer GT1 cars come out of the closet and race - they just see it as a waste of time against works cars unfort.

too scared?

Acemco had a budget of $5 million in 2005.

bil588 · 1 Jun 2007, 20:12 (Ref:1926491)

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Originally Posted by gwyllion

Complete BS according to http://www.endurance-info.com/article.php?sid=3654

so is mader just a seperate entity of mecachrome?

The359 · 2 Jun 2007, 01:42 (Ref:1926644)

I thought the Mader engine was based on the GP2 series engine?

henk4 · 2 Jun 2007, 05:05 (Ref:1926674)

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Originally Posted by bil588

so is mader just a seperate entity of mecachrome?

Heini Mader is a long standing Swiss based engine tuner...

**FIRE** · 2 Jun 2007, 10:37 (Ref:1926776)

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Originally Posted by The359

I thought the Mader engine was based on the GP2 series engine?

It is.

The Badger · 2 Jun 2007, 11:54 (Ref:1926815)

Any word on if the ACO will adopt the 3 light system for the series ?

JAG · 2 Jun 2007, 15:19 (Ref:1926907)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Any word on if the ACO will adopt the 3 light system for the series ?

You have to hope so, this would be a MASSIVE step forward, at no extra cost, seeing as teams will already have the system.

In fact I don't know why the ACO don't use more of their equipment etc. at LMS events.

Maybe DSC or someone could enquire over the weekend?

HORNDAWG · 2 Jun 2007, 16:36 (Ref:1926950)

One would think that with requiring a large % of the LMS cars to modify body panels (not cheap to replace) to install the system for LeMans they would utilize it and require the rest of the cars to adopt it over the (to them) LeMans break!

L.P.

canam · 2 Jun 2007, 16:57 (Ref:1926962)

six holes, a bit of fiddling and 3,000 Euros (there is always a cost of compliance).

bil588 · 3 Jun 2007, 06:31 (Ref:1927250)

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Originally Posted by henk4

Heini Mader is a long standing Swiss based engine tuner...

that mecachrome has owned since 2004, right?

Has Mader continued to build their own engines of their own design?

henk4 · 3 Jun 2007, 08:00 (Ref:1927298)

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Originally Posted by bil588

that mecachrome has owned since 2004, right?

Has Mader continued to build their own engines of their own design?

well I don't know that exactly.
At this year's Retromobile in Paris Mader had a display of various engines, including a number of historic ones (MatraV12, RenaultTurboV6, BMW, and CosworthDFV) that are apparently dealt with under the Mader Classic Banner. There were also two Mecachrome engines on display, an older F1 V10 and a rather small looking V8. So there is definetely a link.

HORNDAWG · 6 Jun 2007, 17:44 (Ref:1930460)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Any word on if the ACO will adopt the 3 light system for the series ?

Well Project-LeMans seems to think so!

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,In addition, in this year the fans running already better to pursue to be able, „the Leader Light system “from the ALMS are for the first time introduced into into Le Mans and afterwards also into the Le Mans Series. Three strong light emitting diodes at the side of the vehicles signal the respective position in the class at the first three vehicles. With the class-prominent a light shines, with zweitplatzierten two and with third therefore three.

L.P.

The Badger · 6 Jun 2007, 18:44 (Ref:1930534)

Their listening !!!

fair dues to them ....

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