WEC Porsche Prototype Discussion - Page 48

rich07 · 13 Dec 2012, 18:56 (Ref:3178426)

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Originally Posted by porman

I think the livery was more in reference to the Le Mans/ Mobil One they used.

Yeah that was the livery on the 98 winning car that I was referring to. White with blue and red. It certainly stands out for me. Would've loved to see it on the RS Spyder, from memory one of the test cars had something similar but I'll have to look that up.

deggis · 13 Dec 2012, 19:17 (Ref:3178435)

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Originally Posted by rich07

from memory one of the test cars had something similar but I'll have to look that up.

This? http://www.gotbroken.com/2006-porsch...ing-at-estoril

porman · 14 Dec 2012, 00:12 (Ref:3178512)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Sorry , but this has gone right over my head ..... Mr.D ?

Do I have a prostate issue and need to pee in a bottle !!!

I was referring to Aysedasi's joke about you being Mr. Depardieu. Nothing to be ashamed of.

In all seriousness, I hope July comes before you know it. Take care!

TF110 · 14 Dec 2012, 01:02 (Ref:3178527)

The 911 GT1 98 was their best looking car IMO, I'm just a big fan of that era's homologation cars, CLK-LM R390 F1 GTR, too bad Grand Am can't be that!

Canada ALMS fan · 14 Dec 2012, 03:22 (Ref:3178551)

Car Business, a TV show here in Canada, had an interview with one of the top guys at Porsche at the LA car show. They got into the LMP project and part that caught my attention was he said there is a brand new shop and 200-250 people just for this project. They once again reiterated they will be racing against Audi and the goal of the program is to be the best overall.

Maelochs · 14 Dec 2012, 03:25 (Ref:3178553)

A brand-new shop and its own project director---it isn't under the normal Porsche motorsports guy, it is a separate program.

Spyderman · 14 Dec 2012, 05:13 (Ref:3178575)

Fritz Enziger (ex BMW F1)

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/12/12/u...tm_source=t.co

They have also brought in the following people:

Alex Hitzinger - recently 'Head of Advanced Technologies' for Red Bull F1 and Scuderia Toro Rosso.

Urs Kuratle - Chief Mechanic at Sauber F1.

Mike Krack - chief engineer > Kolles and Heinz Union (F3) (but with lots of Sauber F1 experience)

Pandamasque · 14 Dec 2012, 16:51 (Ref:3178714)

So does Olaf Manthey have anything to do with the 2014 works team, or is just they works-backed GTE team that will remain just that after 1 development year for 991?

Spyderman · 14 Dec 2012, 16:59 (Ref:3178716)

I think Manthey will stay in GTE. They make a lot of money from the 911.

CyberMotor · 14 Dec 2012, 17:20 (Ref:3178722)

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Originally Posted by TF110

The 911 GT1 98 was their best looking car IMO

I agree with you there! I really liked the 911 GT1-98 also. Too bad it liked to fly. Would've enjoyed seeing it for a few more years.

You can tell from the number of shots I took the day it showed up for PLM 1998 Scrutineering that I liked this car!

http://www.lasersol.com/CyberMotor/plm_1998/scrut2.htm

Spyderman · 14 Dec 2012, 18:15 (Ref:3178734)

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Originally Posted by CyberMotor

I agree with you there! I really liked the 911 GT1-98 also. Too bad it liked to fly. Would've enjoyed seeing it for a few more years.

You can tell from the number of shots I took the day it showed up for PLM 1998 Scrutineering that I liked this car!

http://www.lasersol.com/CyberMotor/plm_1998/scrut2.htm

Great pictures! Thanks for posting.

airbusA346 · 14 Dec 2012, 18:32 (Ref:3178740)

According to Autosport magazine:

Timo Bernhard and Romain Dumas have returned full-time to Porsche.

"Le Mans 24 Hours Winners Timo Bernhard and Romain Dumas have ended their loan spells with Audi to return full-time to Porsche.

The duo have been on loan to Audi for prototype duties since 2009, the year before they won the 24 Hours together with Mike Rockenfeller. Both had to choose between Audi and Porsche as the LMP1 returnee gears up to take on its sister marque with its new hybrid in 2014.

Bernhard said: “We always knew we would have to decide in one direction by the end of Duo is ending Audi spell 2012. Porsche is in my blood. They gave me so many opportunities, which is why I want to stay loyal to them.”

Bernhard and Dumas will spearhead development of Porsche’s new P1 hybrid, which will run for the first time in mid-2013."

gregtummer · 14 Dec 2012, 19:05 (Ref:3178749)

Which will run for the first time in mid-2013.

In a race? Or do they mean testing?

Canada ALMS fan · 14 Dec 2012, 19:07 (Ref:3178751)

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Originally Posted by gregtummer

Which will run for the first time in mid-2013.

In a race? Or do they mean testing?

The fact they keep mentioning this makes me wonder? It is built to the 2014 rules though.

lucky snake · 14 Dec 2012, 19:15 (Ref:3178754)

surely 2013 will be a year of intensive tests for porsche. A race debut in the same year is unlikely. Watching the performances of 2012 audi lmp1 drivers, losing timo bernhard, audi loses one of their best drivers, second only to lotterer in my opinion. They need to find a way to make competitive for the victory also their second car... mcnish and kristensen never were competitive like lotterer and treluyer.

Fogelhund · 14 Dec 2012, 19:15 (Ref:3178755)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberMotor

I agree with you there! I really liked the 911 GT1-98 also. Too bad it liked to fly. Would've enjoyed seeing it for a few more years.

You can tell from the number of shots I took the day it showed up for PLM 1998 Scrutineering that I liked this car!

http://www.lasersol.com/CyberMotor/plm_1998/scrut2.htm

It is a real shame that it flew at PLM, as Porsche were going to allow Champion to run it the following season in the ALMS. :-(

**joeb** · 14 Dec 2012, 21:33 (Ref:3178786)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberMotor

I agree with you there! I really liked the 911 GT1-98 also. Too bad it liked to fly. Would've enjoyed seeing it for a few more years.

You can tell from the number of shots I took the day it showed up for PLM 1998 Scrutineering that I liked this car!

http://www.lasersol.com/CyberMotor/plm_1998/scrut2.htm

Fantastic photos. I didn't realize they took the cars offsite for scrutineering that year!

Beetle · 14 Dec 2012, 23:12 (Ref:3178808)

Quote:

Originally Posted by airbusA346

According to Autosport magazine:

Timo Bernhard and Romain Dumas have returned full-time to Porsche.

"Le Mans 24 Hours Winners Timo Bernhard and Romain Dumas have ended their loan spells with Audi to return full-time to Porsche.

The duo have been on loan to Audi for prototype duties since 2009, the year before they won the 24 Hours together with Mike Rockenfeller. Both had to choose between Audi and Porsche as the LMP1 returnee gears up to take on its sister marque with its new hybrid in 2014.

Bernhard said: “We always knew we would have to decide in one direction by the end of Duo is ending Audi spell 2012. Porsche is in my blood. They gave me so many opportunities, which is why I want to stay loyal to them.”

Bernhard and Dumas will spearhead development of Porsche’s new P1 hybrid, which will run for the first time in mid-2013."

Great news, airbus!

CyberMotor · 15 Dec 2012, 05:17 (Ref:3178840)

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Originally Posted by joeb

Fantastic photos. I didn't realize they took the cars offsite for scrutineering that year!

Yes, for the first two years, scrutineering was held at Lenox Square Mall. When hearing this, many people asked, "A mall??!!"

Lenox is in the heart of the financial district, an entertainment district and is one of the most international areas in the city. I had received my first digital camera a few days before scrutineering occurred so I went down to Lenox which was about 15 minutes away and shot my first digital photos and posted them...

http://www.lasersol.com/CyberMotor/plm_1998/lenox.htm

Later, up at the track, I asked the Porsche team if I could enter their paddock and take photos of the 911 GT1-98? It was sitting with all the flaps down on the paddock and sitting as if it was a museum piece as the crew quietly worked on it. I went in and started taking photos with quite respect so as not to disturb the team as they worked on the car.

The next thing I knew, I felt someone looking over my shoulder at my new digital camera and it was Allan McNish and Yannick Dalmas! Next, the crew stopped working on the car and came over and everyone started looking at my digital camera as no one had ever seen one before. It was a bit surreal. I started to ask if they wanted to trade? They could play with my camera if I could play with their car!

Coach Ep · 15 Dec 2012, 11:48 (Ref:3178909)

That´s a great anecdote Earl.

Would it be possible to look at the full pics instead of the thumbnails? Really appreciated if so.

Even if I didn´t attend the first 2 races, your reports surely helped wetting the appetite! Thanks for the great pics and stories, feels like a good trip down memory lane!

The Badger · 15 Dec 2012, 13:37 (Ref:3178927)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

It is a real shame that it flew at PLM, as Porsche were going to allow Champion to run it the following season in the ALMS. :-(

Oh , I didnt know that . Would have looked brilliant in their livery .

CyberMotor · 15 Dec 2012, 15:41 (Ref:3178948)

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Originally Posted by The Badger

Oh , I didnt know that . Would have looked brilliant in their livery .

I didn't know that either. That car in the Champion livery at night would of been incredible.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Ep

That´s a great anecdote Earl.

Would it be possible to look at the full pics instead of the thumbnails? Really appreciated if so.

Even if I didn´t attend the first 2 races, your reports surely helped wetting the appetite! Thanks for the great pics and stories, feels like a good trip down memory lane!

Thanks! When I find some time, I will dig into the archives and find the full resolution photos. There are a lot I didn't post. One specifically was of Dalmas while standing beside the car before the race. He looked a bit concerned about something while talking with his engineer. Before the PLM, the last race I had seen Dalmas, was at the Daytona 24 Hours where he was driving the Scandia Ferrari 333 SP.

At that race, I had gotten up in the middle of the night and was down in the pits around 3:00 AM. I watched the Ferrari come in for a normal pit stop, Dalmas got in and screamed off into the night with new tires and a full tank. I had my scanner with me and about 30 seconds later I heard a driver screaming, "I've lost a wheel, I've lost a wheel!!!" It was Dalmas and as he was approaching 200 MPH in the darkness on the back stretch, he had lost a rear wheel.

I was there as he brought the car back in riding on two wheels as the front left was off the ground and back right was scrubbing the track. Dalmas got out, was white as a sheet and looked like a man that had just escaped death. A new driver got in, they put a new wheel on and the car was off again as if nothing had ever happened. In the next race that I saw Dalmas, he had the blowover in the Porsche 911 GT1-98. Didn't hear much about Dalmas for awhile after those two adventures!

CyberMotor · 15 Dec 2012, 17:14 (Ref:3178973)

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Originally Posted by Fogelhund

It is a real shame that it flew at PLM, as Porsche were going to allow Champion to run it the following season in the ALMS. :-(

I did not know that. (meant to reply to your quote directly before, my apologies).

The Champion liveries were some of the highlights of PLM whenever they raced. Wish we could see them back. Champion racing the 911 GT1-98 would've been great.

Victor_RO · 20 Dec 2012, 10:38 (Ref:3180359)

More on the driver front for the 2013 GTE campaign... Joerg Bergmeister lets slip on Twitter that he will be driving for the Porsche factory team in the WEC for the full season next year.

airbusA346 · 20 Dec 2012, 10:53 (Ref:3180362)

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Originally Posted by Victor_RO

More on the driver front for the 2013 GTE campaign... Joerg Bergmeister lets slip on Twitter that he will be driving for the Porsche factory team in the WEC for the full season next year.

Romain Dumas has put on Facebook, that he is racing with Manthey next year with Marc Lieb and Richard Lietz.

"Pour compléter l'annonce d'hier, je vais rouler au sein du Porsche AG Team Manthey en FIA WEC avec Marc Lieb et Richard Lietz ;-)

To complement the announcement of yesterday, I'll ride in the Porsche AG Team Manthey in FIA WEC with Marc Lieb and Richard Lietz;-)"

*The above quote was translated using Bing

*I have also posted this in the 2 991 for WEC Manthey Racing thread*

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