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From everything I've heard, Mazda's only linked with Speedsource. I've never seen any mention of Mazda being linked to the SoD team.
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Huh. Don't know how I missed those details, but it seems I did. None of my connections made mention of it - I guess they're not expecting anything to happen with regard to Mazda.
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They sold other RX-8's and took care of the engine work, chassis was still Riley built, Mazda, just like GM, or whoever will want to sell their product, or, at least branding to other teams. |
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More details, mainly BoP related, are (slowly) coming out:
http://sportscar365.com/imsa/iwsc/im...dpi-machinery/ I didn't find this quote sounding overly comfortable: Quote:
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The "glass half full" part of me sees the standard Gibson V8 engine as a backbone to the class as being a great thing in the long run. Think of it as the chevy small block to the early 80s IMSA GTP class. While the manufacturers get geared up to put out their proper cars with their individual bodywork, the majority of the privateers can pick up what should be a reliable and basic package and have a chance to take some overall wins while the OEM programs, inevitably, come up against some kind of learning curve.
Truth be told, if I was a well funded driver or a team looking for overall victories, this might be the best year to score some upsets. |
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Starworks is just a ride-buy program now, and PR1 is too new. I don't know who that serious team could be though. |
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"Initial variables" sounds an awful lot like "handicaps for foreigners to keep our favorite teams on top." Of course, that would Never happen in an IMSA series.
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Exactly my thoughts. They have a way to handicap a team if need be. And who knows if it's for a legitimate reason.
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13 Sep 2016, 13:03 (Ref:3672094) | #1188 | |
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I think I should post this one as DPi will have generic bodywork and reduced speed in Daytona 24 Hours:
Raffauf: 2017 Prototype Speeds Could Be Capped at Daytona (via Sportscar 365) |
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I know a lot of the doom and gloomers will say that IMSA will make sure that the Gibson is not competitive with the DPIs, but it's honestly in IMSA's best interest to keep those cars in the hunt performance wise. It'll keep everyone on their toes, and keep the ride buyers and pro-am teams chasing results. |
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What seems like an obvious "best interest" to many of us ... Let us recall, we are watching the combined management teams of two sports car series which somehow managed to find it in their own "best interests" to end up bankrupt. Seriously ... for two years it suited their "best interests" to keep the DP teams winning, because there were more of them. Then suddenly BoP shifts and it is in the series' "best interest" to let a P2 win some ... seeing as DPs are toast anyway ... I believe IMSA did indeed serve its own "best interests." They were pretty sure old ALMS fans would stick around even though the DPs won everything, and pretty sure the DP teams would stick around And the old ALMS fans would be all pleased and also stick around if they let a P2 win a few .... But at no point was fair racing really a consideration, as far as I can see. Whatever pleased the stakeholders came first, and then whatever pleased the fans ... and straight-up, best-team-wins racing seems never to have been a consideration (The crappy "We trust you" self-testing for BoP is one clear indicator here. If the series wanted fair BoP, they'd test the cars themselves with their own drivers.) Not saying I won't attend every race I can afford to, and not saying I won't watch the rest on TV ... but I am not going to expect IMSA to start seeking a level playing field when I can see no evidence that they ever have before. |
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The only mention of bodywork I see there is the note that the cars will use standard bodywork instead of unique low-drag bodywork as they currently do. |
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That's the way I read it too, just the single aero kit for the year per car, DPi or LMP2.
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As far as the DP/LMP2 during the merger, I do agree that early on performance was very much in favor of the DPs. That said, now that some general level of parity has been reached I think it comes down to teams. At the end of the day the current top-running DP teams are better teams than the P2 entrants. Whether it's luck, budget, talent or some combination of the three, if a better team had been running a P2 full season I bet they could easily be in the championship hunt. As an example, if ESM had been able to convert their early momentum and ran a full season they would most definitely be fighting with Action Express. They've done reasonably well in the WEC and that is arguably a deeper pool in some respects. |
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ESM is looking at Nissan engines in a pair of Ligiers for next year. Not sure if this includes Nissan bodywork or just the engine.
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I'm deeply confused by this, I thought "DPi" required custom bodywork...
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I'm thinking IMSA has hired a brain to share and are willing to allow an engine with bodywork to come. And they have mentioned a few companies are working toward introduction at a later date. I know we all dismissed it but maybe there's something there with Nissan and not as much coming from HPD. But with the NSX coming in 2017 any HPD kit could be delayed and ESM needs something sooner than 'in the future.'
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